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Why is NWO or global communism bad?

 
easymind
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Why is NWO or global communism bad?
If it is true communism, so not with dictators and owners, than it is supposed to be a system that takes care of everybody.

If there ever has to be a one world system, which is pretty evident it will come one way or another. I am glad if it is not a corporate fascist order, like what America shows some times.

Communism has been demonished in the US a lot, and we do see dictators claiming to be communist in history. But an elected democratic communism with maybe even technologically helped more participation of ordinary people in local affairs is surely the best thing if you think about it.

The only reason to be against a fair and equal system is that you do not believe it to be true or because you already are freaky wealthy and do not want to share your wealth...

A lot of Americans still feel communism is the worst thing in the world. But isn't it clear that free capitalism brings monopolies and oligarchies which at the top do practice socialism and at the bottom use capitalism.

The CEO and big investers always get the good jobs, bonuses and have no fear of bad healthcare, schooling or hard labour. The bottom can loose jobs, go to prison, get in debt and has to fight for survival.

The very same people who tell the bottom they have to believe in naked capitalism and live in a world were it is the darwinian law of the survival of the strongest. Live themselves in a world were every need is fixed and every disaster is bend towards the poor.

If a true communist/socialist system is developed internationally and countries are free to cooperate in such a system, I cannot see a downside yet.

And in any case. If the NWO succeeds, even if is it all a lie and just corporate fascism. America would still probably be the largest influence in that international body. I really don't know why you Americans are so upset about NWO, it is your countries take over of the world, or it is a new more internationally fair system.
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
easymind  (OP)

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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1046065

Well, that is true. So maybe we need to pay our CEO's and leaders the same wages as our cleaners. This way they can keep their both legs down on the earth...
Time is a great teacher, unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
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09/22/2010 12:28 PM
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1046065


that and population reduction,selective breeding,slavery,and the whole police state feel that would loom in the air.
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Every system inherent in man is flawed, therefore, every system man develops will also be inherently flawed.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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09/22/2010 12:31 PM
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.


that and population reduction,selective breeding,slavery,and the whole police state feel that would loom in the air.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020823

You do not need an NWO to do all that... And for a big part we already do that. The current situation makes it easier to do weird bad stuff in a developing nation with hardly any laws.
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Every system inherent in man is flawed, therefore, every system man develops will also be inherently flawed.
 Quoting: GUANO

Thats Christian thinking. We are all born in sin. Well maybe so, but why be pro any current system than?
Time is a great teacher, unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Anarchy. Only answer. Some dumb fuck is going to confuse Chaos with Anarchy and that same dumb fuck is the current problem. They are stuck in the same circular rut, vote for the lesser of two evils.
Rule yourself. Anarchy.
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09/22/2010 12:34 PM
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
See Great Purge - USSR
See Cultural Revolution - China
See Kyhmer Rouge - Cambodia
just to name a few!


wow, just wow..

or how about the psychological factors that everyone is not producing as much as they could, and there is no incentive for progress except when your family is a labor camp if you dont succeed.


im not saying the current system is great, but millions of people are not murdered here in the US en masses (unless you count vaccines and gmo's)

in a perfect world, where there is no corruption, hate, & violence
communism IS the right form of government..
but if that were true government wouldn't be necessary in the first place

you have made the TPTB very happy today OP, prepare for organ harvest, so they can disect & see what makes you so compliant

Take all -isms and shove em up your ass!

Long live the REPUBLIC! The absolute pinnacle of western political thought!
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09/22/2010 12:36 PM
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Every system inherent in man is flawed, therefore, every system man develops will also be inherently flawed.

Thats Christian thinking. We are all born in sin. Well maybe so, but why be pro any current system than?
 Quoting: easymind


Yes, all religions are inherently flawed as well.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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09/22/2010 12:36 PM
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
NWO IS Communism.
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09/22/2010 01:04 PM
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Well, that is true. So maybe we need to pay our CEO's and leaders the same wages as our cleaners. This way they can keep their both legs down on the earth...
 Quoting: easymind


The same corrupt people in control now, would be in control in a communist system as well. If a CEO's pay was cut too much for his liking, he would quit and become a corrupt politician and just steal the money.

The real problem is not with any specific economic system. The problem is corruption and collusion within all systems.

An additional problem with communism is that there is no incentive for anyone to do anything difficult. Why would anyone want to endure the stress of being a doctor in an ER when they get paid the same as the janitor? This is the reason that all communist countries in the past, and any that arise in the future, are totalitarian. Without coercion by government, difficult jobs would not get done.
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Well, that is true. So maybe we need to pay our CEO's and leaders the same wages as our cleaners. This way they can keep their both legs down on the earth...


The same corrupt people in control now, would be in control in a communist system as well. If a CEO's pay was cut too much for his liking, he would quit and become a corrupt politician and just steal the money.

The real problem is not with any specific economic system. The problem is corruption and collusion within all systems.

An additional problem with communism is that there is no incentive for anyone to do anything difficult. Why would anyone want to endure the stress of being a doctor in an ER when they get paid the same as the janitor? This is the reason that all communist countries in the past, and any that arise in the future, are totalitarian. Without coercion by government, difficult jobs would not get done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894470

Well, if you are young and have no idea about money, and you are asked "What do you want to be when you grow up". You do say stuff other than "a bumb who gets paid for doing nothing".
Creativity and responsibility can be bigger drivers for people to do something than money.
I am not so sure people will stop working. I see a lot of volunteer work done even in our society.
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easymind  (OP)

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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
NWO IS Communism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104325

Well, sorry. For me communism is not automaticly something evil I have to shoot out of the sky.
So your comment is not saying much in that light...
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
If you let system take care of you to extreme...they practically gonna own your body and then mind...
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
If we're talking about the type of Communism depicted by the Venus Project/Zeitgeist Movement - then thumbs up.

That is, no government or monetary system.
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Re: Why is NWO or global communism bad?
If you let system take care of you to extreme...they practically gonna own your body and then mind...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1106349

Who says communism is like that? Communism only states that wealth belongs to all, not just a few.
And Capitalism has corporations deciding what you can choose and what choice is best.
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