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River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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With regards observations that the river bed looks very dry, like it has been dry for a while - well the photos were taken the following day (2km of the river diappeared overnight). Although it has been sunny there since the recent floods, you wouldn't expect the area to be completely dry like that would you? Surely some small pools of water would remain in places? Makes it even more mysterious. What would suck 2km of a river so thoroughly that not even small puddles remain the day after the river vanished?
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09/24/2010 12:16 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Zidar did it.


laugh


Yes, we know here which concrete Zidar is. Maybe he need water for Gadaffi in Lybia now. Big business.

Zidar = English; Mason.

Free Masons maybe did that. :-)

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I never made that connection... My family name is Zidar -- perhaps someone in my lineage was a freemason??? My grandmother is from Kamnik and my grandfather from Ljubljana....
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Zidar is biggest constructor business in Slovenia. And also...

Ha, hi there from Kamnik. :-)

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09/24/2010 12:17 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Being a stone mason I have worked with lots of limestone and it is subject to breaking at times.
While it is strong it can also be extremely weak and has holes and fissures.
The article states that 2 km disappeared (in the middle or so)from this river, so it didn't dry up and the whole river isn't gone.
Water seeks the lowest point and will go through very small places.

This could be tectonic movement which caused a crack to open up enough to allow this or just erosion which finally broke through.

Maybe OP, could you find the map coordinates and the location of the missing section like an aerial shot and this would show quite a bit.
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09/24/2010 12:17 PM
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... business man, yes.
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09/24/2010 12:20 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Zidar did it.


laugh


Yes, we know here which concrete Zidar is. Maybe he need water for Gadaffi in Lybia now. Big business.

Zidar = English; Mason.

Free Masons maybe did that. :-)

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I never made that connection... My family name is Zidar -- perhaps someone in my lineage was a freemason??? My grandmother is from Kamnik and my grandfather from Ljubljana....


Zidar is biggest constructor business in Slovenia. And also...

Ha, hi there from Kamnik. :-)

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Hello!!!.... and Dober Dan?? or Dober Vecer... not sure what time it is there now...
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09/24/2010 12:23 PM
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Zidar did it.


laugh


Yes, we know here which concrete Zidar is. Maybe he need water for Gadaffi in Lybia now. Big business.

Zidar = English; Mason.

Free Masons maybe did that. :-)

.


I never made that connection... My family name is Zidar -- perhaps someone in my lineage was a freemason??? My grandmother is from Kamnik and my grandfather from Ljubljana....


Zidar is biggest constructor business in Slovenia. And also...

Ha, hi there from Kamnik. :-)

.



Hello!!!.... and Dober Dan?? or Dober Vecer... not sure what time it is there now...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895627


"Dober vecer" already. 18.30. (Good evening)
Thank you. "Dober dan" (Good day) to you in US. Where?

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09/24/2010 12:25 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Zidar did it.


laugh


Yes, we know here which concrete Zidar is. Maybe he need water for Gadaffi in Lybia now. Big business.

Zidar = English; Mason.

Free Masons maybe did that. :-)

.


I never made that connection... My family name is Zidar -- perhaps someone in my lineage was a freemason??? My grandmother is from Kamnik and my grandfather from Ljubljana....


Zidar is biggest constructor business in Slovenia. And also...

Ha, hi there from Kamnik. :-)

.



Hello!!!.... and Dober Dan?? or Dober Vecer... not sure what time it is there now...


"Dober vecer" already. 18.30. (Good evening)
Thank you. "Dober dan" (Good day) to you in US. Where?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1108833


I'm near Cleveland in Ohio....
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09/24/2010 12:27 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Definitely a little strange....
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Check out how it used to be
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Thanks so much for posting that video, Ostria. hf

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09/24/2010 12:31 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Zidar did it.


laugh


Yes, we know here which concrete Zidar is. Maybe he need water for Gadaffi in Lybia now. Big business.

Zidar = English; Mason.

Free Masons maybe did that. :-)

.


I never made that connection... My family name is Zidar -- perhaps someone in my lineage was a freemason??? My grandmother is from Kamnik and my grandfather from Ljubljana....


Zidar is biggest constructor business in Slovenia. And also...

Ha, hi there from Kamnik. :-)

.



Hello!!!.... and Dober Dan?? or Dober Vecer... not sure what time it is there now...


"Dober vecer" already. 18.30. (Good evening)
Thank you. "Dober dan" (Good day) to you in US. Where?

.


I'm near Cleveland in Ohio....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895627


Expected, because there is the most large community of Slovenians in USA.

Hi, there.

One more surprise for you. Family name of my mother is Zidar, too. So, maybe we are even relatives. She is from near Ribnica (English; Fish-town). All her brothers and sisters, so my relatives too, live very near Toronto, Canada. Funny, how world is small...

Good to have contact with you. Pozdravi tvoje doma.

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09/24/2010 12:42 PM
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Whatever the cause, my thanks to the OP for linking it here. To me, it's always good to learn what other parts of the world are experiencing. It helps remind me that I'm not the center of the universe. cool2
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09/24/2010 12:43 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Zidar did it.


laugh


Yes, we know here which concrete Zidar is. Maybe he need water for Gadaffi in Lybia now. Big business.

Zidar = English; Mason.

Free Masons maybe did that. :-)

.


I never made that connection... My family name is Zidar -- perhaps someone in my lineage was a freemason??? My grandmother is from Kamnik and my grandfather from Ljubljana....


Zidar is biggest constructor business in Slovenia. And also...

Ha, hi there from Kamnik. :-)

.



Hello!!!.... and Dober Dan?? or Dober Vecer... not sure what time it is there now...


"Dober vecer" already. 18.30. (Good evening)
Thank you. "Dober dan" (Good day) to you in US. Where?

.


I'm near Cleveland in Ohio....


Expected, because there is the most large community of Slovenians in USA.

Hi, there.

One more surprise for you. Family name of my mother is Zidar, too. So, maybe we are even relatives. She is from near Ribnica (English; Fish-town). All her brothers and sisters, so my relatives too, live very near Toronto, Canada. Funny, how world is small...

Good to have contact with you. Pozdravi tvoje doma.

.
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Really!? Perhaps we are related from your mother's side to my father's... it really is a small world!! I hope all is well in Slovenija tonight!!

P.S. My Slovene is really bad :( ... The language was never passed down unfortunately.... so I need some help with Pozdravi tvoje doma....
Anonymous Coward
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Could it have been an asteroid impact? Some of the water that allegedly disappeared down a crack may simply have boiled away from the heat of the impact.
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09/24/2010 12:48 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
looks like a wash, not a river...

If there was a river there then they were over a week late getting pictures of the remains....
Total Protonic Reversal...
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09/24/2010 12:51 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
From the Holy Quran Surah Al-Kahf verse 41

"Or the water thereof (of the gardens) becomes deep-sunken (underground) so that you will never be able to seek it."

Or some morning the water thereof will be lost in the earth so that thou canst not make search for it.


God is talking of a river between the two gardens of men. Read the story.

God has the power to make rivers disappear over night.
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09/24/2010 12:53 PM
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reminds me of that lake that was accidentally tapped into from below, at a salt mine.. then suddenly the whole lake drained into the hole, taking barges into it before all was said and done.
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20 Nov 1980 -- Lake Peigneur sinkhole disaster
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09/24/2010 12:54 PM
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rofl


this could be very easily explained


Eastern Europe is speckled with old closed coal mines, that people living in the area do not know about or the generations that knew died off


due to the flooding there could have been some dirt shift opening an unfilled (old coal mines should be filled with sand) coal mine ultimately causing the river water to drain into the mine


ok for old mines in the area you may find this river


peace
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09/24/2010 12:55 PM
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ok for old mines in the area you may find this river


peace
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look
for old mines in the area you may find this river


fixed
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09/24/2010 12:59 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
So 2km of a river disappears overnight, and the offical story is that it drained away through that small crack?! (See pictures in link in above post).

Bearing in mind that witnesses heard a huge bang, which one said sounded like a huge detonation.

Is it that this phenomena was caused by some new technology to control flooding? Or perhaps it was an earthquake without the tremor? What is particularly concerning is that this sort of event can be common before big earthquakes. In china a whole lake disappeared before a devastating earthquake.
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this happened once in niagra.. people heard a big bang, the next mornin... the niagra falls was gone....... pepople walked across the rocks to america
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This one time at band camp.... rockon
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09/24/2010 01:01 PM
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I see an opportunity to harvest a bunch of river rocks for not a lot of effort. Anybody in Slovenia in the gravel business?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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09/24/2010 01:02 PM
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Here are the details of the tremor detected by seisomographs that might be connected to this event in some way:

[link to www.arso.gov.si]
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09/24/2010 01:05 PM
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Cleveland, thank you.
Yes, it's OK currently.
Today the only jewelry store robbed in Kamnik (small town). Kamnik; english = Stoner. :-)
Floods coming again tomorrow and after for all Slovenia. But probably less as first time. People are scared.
Otherwise not so bad.

Maybe we are related, yes.

"Pozdravi tvoje doma" = Say hi to your (people) at home.

hi
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09/24/2010 01:06 PM
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rofl


this could be very easily explained


Eastern Europe is speckled with old closed coal mines, that people living in the area do not know about or the generations that knew died off


due to the flooding there could have been some dirt shift opening an unfilled (old coal mines should be filled with sand) coal mine ultimately causing the river water to drain into the mine


ok for old mines in the area you may find this river


peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1108875

This doesn't explain why all the river bed is dry, as the OP observed up the page a bit. I am really puzzled by that. It seems impossible that it could have become bone dry that quickly, plus hardly any small pools in low areas. I think there are still some aspects of this that are a mystery.
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09/24/2010 01:09 PM
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Cleveland, thank you.
Yes, it's OK currently.
Today the only jewelry store robbed in Kamnik (small town). Kamnik; english = Stoner. :-)
Floods coming again tomorrow and after for all Slovenia. But probably less as first time. People are scared.
Otherwise not so bad.

Maybe we are related, yes.

"Pozdravi tvoje doma" = Say hi to your (people) at home.

hi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1108833


Well, I wish the best for everyone over there... I hope the floods aren't too bad... I will make sure to say hi to everyone!!! I must go for a doctor visit now and then I will be going to visit my grandmother... I'll tell her I met someone from Kamnik and I'll pass your greetings on!!
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Could it have been an asteroid impact? Some of the water that allegedly disappeared down a crack may simply have boiled away from the heat of the impact.
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I am favoring this explaination.

bump
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09/24/2010 01:21 PM
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Cleveland, thank you.
Yes, it's OK currently.
Today the only jewelry store robbed in Kamnik (small town). Kamnik; english = Stoner. :-)
Floods coming again tomorrow and after for all Slovenia. But probably less as first time. People are scared.
Otherwise not so bad.

Maybe we are related, yes.

"Pozdravi tvoje doma" = Say hi to your (people) at home.

hi


Well, I wish the best for everyone over there... I hope the floods aren't too bad... I will make sure to say hi to everyone!!! I must go for a doctor visit now and then I will be going to visit my grandmother... I'll tell her I met someone from Kamnik and I'll pass your greetings on!!
 Quoting: Zidar 895627


Fine.
Say hi to her and say -better write - word "Vrhpolje". She will understand.

Floods; will see. But army is prepared too, so...

Godspeed = "Srecno".

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I would love to see the faces of those watching the river disappear.. lmao now that would be epic.. chuckle
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
On Tuesday night 2km of the river Iska in Slovenia disappeared and left behind fish on dry ground. The residents are saying that they heard a huge bang in the night. It sounds like they are describing it as a possible earthquake-like sound although there was no tremor. One woman said that it was like a huge detonation, as if something big had crashed onto the ground. People went out of their homes to see what was falling down, only to witness the river being drained.

To make this story even more strange, last week there were devastating floods in Slovenia and this river like all others was flooding land and properties. Could it be that some strange technology is being tested here for flood defence purpose? The official explanation is that due to the karst nature of the terrain the river went underground through this tiny hole (see pictures in link below), but the residents are highly sceptical as they have never witnessed anything like that ever (bearing in mind this river has flooded many times before).

For pictures (language is Slovenian): 24ur.com...

The first part of the official news story (from link above) translates as:

"On Tuesday night the river Iska vanished between the villages of Iska Vas and Strahomer."... (Now here comes the official explanation)... "Slovene Environment Agency statement says that the water is flowing into the underground chamber underneath the water bed. This is the way the river disappears and reappers later down stream.This time this characteristic of the river is stronger because of the damages to the river bed."


Yes, true, also because of floods.
There is greatest wetlands habitat in Slovenia.
There was found the oldest human made whistle/flute in the world.

There was the original reservation of the White race. 200.000 years ago.
There is the main Church of St. Michael Arch-Angel in Slovenia.

Signs of Time & Space.

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THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO, dear one.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Re: River disappears overnight after loud detonation noise is heard
Yes thanks to the AC for that info. I think the EQs may be connected with this event, especially considering that tremor that occurred on night of 21/9/10:

[link to www.arso.gov.si]

There was a thread a few days ago about people there waiting for doom. Two people dreaming of big quakes. I can't find it now.

This was another one that had been going a few days prior, which was why I had noticed the other one.

Thread: ---EQ Swarm In Slovenia!!??/Now That's Odd!!!---


Smart connecting of the dots - I saw the thread too but I didn't put 2+2 together. This could have something to do with it of course. Sinkholes...now draining lakes same time as EQ's happen there...hmmmmm. Interesting, I'm no scientist, but that must have something to do with it.
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