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Voice Chat Topic---William Cooper Behold a Pale Horse 11:00PM EST

 
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Ragman and i will be hosting this epic show on the life of the man named William Cooper and his talks about secret governments, aliens life and the end of the world.

Be there for this epic chat.



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MAJESTYTWELVE: William Cooper


The plan outlined the formation of a world totalitarian socialist government. It is to be ruled by a behind-the-scenes council of wise men. A so-called benevolent dictator, will be presented as the Messiah. The Constitution for the united States of America and its Bill of Rights will be scrapped. A parliamentary form of government will take its place. All military forces and individuals are to be disarmed except for an internal police force which will carry only the minimum weapons needed to maintain internal order.



The goal is the elimination of all religion save theirs, the elimination of all nation states, and complete control and ownership of everything, and everyone, everywhere, every moment of every day, forever. A select few are hand picked for progress beyond the 13th Degree (York Rite) or 32nd Degree (Scottish Rite). Those chosen disappear behind the veil and become one of the "Thousand Points of Light," but they are more properly known as the "Magi".


"Read everything, Listen to everybody. Don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research."

William Cooper




“I believe that any man without principles that he is ready and willing to die for at any given moment is already dead and is of no use or consequence whatsoever.”

William Cooper
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you can read the book here, or listen to the audio book


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Bill said that important people in the Government, Judges, Lawyers and police are all in secret societies that control this country and world....
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This is a list of many of the main books that Bill Cooper references in his "Mystery Babylon" series.



"Our Ageless Constitution" - Edited by W. David Steadman & Levon E. Lewis

"The Templar Chart" - (Sorry, couldn't catch the author on this one)

"The True Masonic Chart, or, Hieroglyphic Monitor" - R.W.G.L. Cross

"The Sacred and the Profane - The Natrue of Religion, the Siginificance of Religious Myth, Symbolism and Ritual within Life and Culture"

- Misai Eliadi (I think that is the correct spelling)

"Occult Geometry and Hermetic Science of Motion and Number"

- A.S. Riley (Or Reilly ? )
[Divorss Publications]

"Celestial Symbols - Symbolism in Doctrine, Religious Traditions, and Temple Architecture"

- Alan H. Barber

"Many Moons - The Myth and Magic, Fact and Fantasy of our Nearest Heavenly Body"

- Diana Brewton

The next four books are quite well known, and now questionable sources I believe, but I'll include them anyway.

"Holy Blood, Holy Grail"

"The Messianic Legacy"

"The Temple and the Lodge"

"The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception"

- all by the trio of Baigent, Lincoln & Leigh

"Julius Caesar - A Biography" - Michael Grant

"Born in Blood - The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry"

- John J. Robinson

"Dungeon, Fire and Sword - The Knights Templar in the Crusades"

- John J. Robinson

"The Future of Man" - Robert Clark Graham [S.C. Books]

"A History of Mathematics" (2nd Edition)

- Carl B. Boyer [Wiley]

"Understanding the Dead Sea Scrolls - A Reader from the Biblical Archaeological Review"
(A magazine release or a periodical I believe)

- Herschel Shanks

"Pagans and Christians"

- Robin Lane Fox

"Preparing for the Twenty-First Century"

- Paul Kennedy

"The New World Order - The Ancient Plan of the Secret Societies"

- William T. Still

"Satanic Voices - Ancient and Modern"

- David Moorer Pidcock

"Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptians"

"The Lost Keys of Freeamsonry"

"America's Assignment with Destiny"

- all by Manly P. Hall

"Judaica - The Blackwell Dictionary of Judaica"
(I think that is the correct title - he repeated the word 'Judaica' twice)

- Dan Cohn & Sherbuck

"A Dictionary of Freemasonry - A Compendium of Masonic History, Symbolism, Rituals, Literature and Myth"

- Robert McCoy

"The Mystery Religions in Christianity"

- Samuel Angus

"A History of Secret Societies"

- Arkon Daraul (Possible Archon?)
[Citadel Press]

"The Occult Conspiracy" - Michael Howard [Destiny Books]

"The New Age Bible" - Dr. John Rogers

"The Mormon Murders"

- Stephen Knifer & Gregory White Smith

"Signs and Symbols of Freemasonry" - J.S.M. Ward

And here is the biggy, this old publication sounds very intriguing, and almost certainly impossible to locate:

"The Rose Cross College - Which is a Resume of the Teachings and Proceedings of the Rose Cross College During it's Session During the Month of October 1916 on the 400th Anniversary of the Founding of the Order - the Imperialistic Council and Venerable Order of the Magi, it's Instructions and Official Degree Priests of Malchizedek, the Knights of Chivalry and Order of the Holy Grail"


most all these books you can get from amazon hf


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a VERY intriguing topic and learned guest!

connects soooo many controversies.

i love it when things fall into place!

it'll be a great show!

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Can't wait man, it should be epic! One of the real truth-tellers!
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Life is good...I'll be there considering I just slept for a good ten hours for once!
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Big William Cooper fan here, I'll be there.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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One of the real truth-tellers!
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One of the real truth-tellers!

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a VERY intriguing topic and learned guest!

connects soooo many controversies.

i love it when things fall into place!

it'll be a great show!


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Yes, very much Nanuke... this guy has it all.... everything blended into one.. and remember they killed his ass........ damned

Peeps need to go to the 3 hour audio that Phenn has up.... its a good quick review of the book, but the book, rocks.... I think I may need to run to the liquor store for this Chat.......

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Which president liked the phrase; "a thousand points of light"? George Bush

MAJESTYTWELVE: William Cooper


The plan outlined the formation of a world totalitarian socialist government. It is to be ruled by a behind-the-scenes council of wise men. A so-called benevolent dictator, will be presented as the Messiah. The Constitution for the united States of America and its Bill of Rights will be scrapped. A parliamentary form of government will take its place. All military forces and individuals are to be disarmed except for an internal police force which will carry only the minimum weapons needed to maintain internal order.



The goal is the elimination of all religion save theirs, the elimination of all nation states, and complete control and ownership of everything, and everyone, everywhere, every moment of every day, forever. A select few are hand picked for progress beyond the 13th Degree (York Rite) or 32nd Degree (Scottish Rite). Those chosen disappear behind the veil and become one of the "Thousand Points of Light," but they are more properly known as the "Magi".


"Read everything, Listen to everybody. Don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research."

William Cooper




“I believe that any man without principles that he is ready and willing to die for at any given moment is already dead and is of no use or consequence whatsoever.”

William Cooper
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william cooper


"THIS IS MY CREED - I first believe in God, the same God in which my ancestors believed. I believe in Jesus Christ and that he is my savior. Second, I believe in the Constitution of the Republic of the United States of America, without interpretation, as it was written and meant to work. I have given my sacred oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. 'I intend to fulfill that oath. Third, I believe in the family unit and, in particular, my family unit. I have sworn that I will give my life, if it is required, in defense of God, the Constitution, or my family. Fourth, I believe that any man without principles that he is ready and willing to die for at any given moment is already dead and of no use or consequence whatsoever." - William Cooper., August 3, 1990., Camp Verde, Arizona.
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Which president liked the phrase; "a thousand points of light"? George Bush


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yes

We are a nation of communities... a brilliant diversity spread like stars, like a thousand points of light in a broad and peaceful sky.
George H. W. Bush
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"Majestytwelve," Cooper draws this conclusion:




"If you wish to remain Free you will have to fight for it... not because we want to fight, or you want to fight, but because the traitors (within our government) will give us no choice in the matter. There will be either a revolution (the Marxist's choice) or there will be a serious attempt to restore Constitutional Republican government under Law (the Patriots choice). In any event there WILL BE WAR between the Citizens of the United States of America and the Marxist minions of the subversive corporate United States' new world order."
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Shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing, Rush Limbaugh read a White House memo on the air during his broadcast, calling William Cooper, "... the most dangerous radio host in America". Cooper was later quoted as saying Clinton's pronouncement was "the greatest compliment that he has ever received."
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Life is good...I'll be there considering I just slept for a good ten hours for once!
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sleep is important :)
Water always wins. :sun:
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I'm pretty sure I still have that book somewhere.. haven't read it in a very long time.
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Life is good...I'll be there considering I just slept for a good ten hours for once!


sleep is important :)
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Yeah....can't keep the party on without it! :-)
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Can I get the transcript?

I'm interested in his, IMO, 75% truth. I still don't know what to think of the guy. Don't know if he was a government agent, a sucker for government propaganda, or a good guy who just happened to have some mental problems that lead him to believe some of the 25% BS he did.

I know the government killed him, which sets off bells and whistles, but just because the government kills you don't mean its for anything you said being correct. It could be they killed him for what he was about to say that would have been correct.

No "conspiracy theorist" (aka alternative history and researcher) is accurate 100% of the time, no matter how hard any of us try - its called humanity. Plus you got all the propaganda to sort through.

I just would have had more respect for the guy as a researcher if he had stuck with facts and documents and left the conjecture out. I mean, what does he expect someone like me to think when he talks about holographic images of the crucifixion of Jesus being shown to him by aliens? That's not something he was able to prove, so it chased people like me away and got me wondering about the rest he said.

I would have been cool with it had he said, "I don't want you to take my word for it, and I fully expect you not to believe me. I know this is gonna sound crazy, but this is what happened... I swear this happened to me and I would stake my life on it. Here is the proof that I can show you that supports my assertion. See it is possible to do at least this much..."

Because he didn't do that. Because he mixed in stuff he claimed to know with stuff he could prove and other people could research I started looking at him sideways. I mean, that's what the government does. They mix in false facts with actual facts, add conjecture, and put their spin on the actual facts without telling you they are doing it so you just accept it all.

If you can't prove it the best thing to do is to either keep your mouth shut or to state that you can't prove it and make it clear to the reader/audience that what you are about to say has absolutely no supporting evidence to back it up. Doing so helps to boost credibility and shows your readers/audience that you are trying to keep them straight and not mess with them in any way. And some things are just too over the top to put out there. It was those things that drove my suspicion of him. I believe he was a smart guy, so unless he intended to do this (chase ordinary people with rational minds away), or unless he did actually have mental problems and he didn't consider or realize he was doing such, he should have known certain things were just gonna be too much; that such things had to be approached more slowly.

All of that said. I would be extremely interested in learning more about his involvement in Navy Intelligence.
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Can I get the transcript?

I'm interested in his, IMO, 75% truth. I still don't know what to think of the guy. Don't know if he was a government agent, a sucker for government propaganda, or a good guy who just happened to have some mental problems that lead him to believe some of the 25% BS he did.

I know the government killed him, which sets off bells and whistles, but just because the government kills you don't mean its for anything you said being correct. It could be they killed him for what he was about to say that would have been correct.

No "conspiracy theorist" (aka alternative history and researcher) is accurate 100% of the time, no matter how hard any of us try - its called humanity. Plus you got all the propaganda to sort through.

I just would have had more respect for the guy as a researcher if he had stuck with facts and documents and left the conjecture out. I mean, what does he expect someone like me to think when he talks about holographic images of the crucifixion of Jesus being shown to him by aliens? That's not something he was able to prove, so it chased people like me away and got me wondering about the rest he said.

I would have been cool with it had he said, "I don't want you to take my word for it, and I fully expect you not to believe me. I know this is gonna sound crazy, but this is what happened... I swear this happened to me and I would stake my life on it. Here is the proof that I can show you that supports my assertion. See it is possible to do at least this much..."

Because he didn't do that. Because he mixed in stuff he claimed to know with stuff he could prove and other people could research I started looking at him sideways. I mean, that's what the government does. They mix in false facts with actual facts, add conjecture, and put their spin on the actual facts without telling you they are doing it so you just accept it all.

If you can't prove it the best thing to do is to either keep your mouth shut or to state that you can't prove it and make it clear to the reader/audience that what you are about to say has absolutely no supporting evidence to back it up. Doing so helps to boost credibility and shows your readers/audience that you are trying to keep them straight and not mess with them in any way. And some things are just too over the top to put out there. It was those things that drove my suspicion of him. I believe he was a smart guy, so unless he intended to do this (chase ordinary people with rational minds away), or unless he did actually have mental problems and he didn't consider or realize he was doing such, he should have known certain things were just gonna be too much; that such things had to be approached more slowly.

All of that said. I would be extremely interested in learning more about his involvement in Navy Intelligence.
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bill clearly stated

"Read everything, Listen to everybody. Don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research."
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a VERY intriguing topic and learned guest!

connects soooo many controversies.

i love it when things fall into place!

it'll be a great show!

:glpdisc:
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who is the guest?
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a VERY intriguing topic and learned guest!

connects soooo many controversies.

i love it when things fall into place!

it'll be a great show!

glpdisc



who is the guest?
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No Guest, Just Topic Discussion - Click the link above for more information about William Cooper. He is one of the first to get the Conspiracy movement going. He was on Short Wave radio back in the 80's, discussing his Information. He covers all from Project Blue Book, Roswell to Alien presence, Illuminaughty, Black Goverment, Secret Societies, Population reduction, etc, etc, etc.

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