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Can You Handle This?...Abortion Survivor Speaks to Govnmt Officials

 
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Wow. Very powerful.

I have always felt that abortion is a very hard thing to legislate about because it requires a change in people's hearts. This lady could change a lot of hearts, though I'm sure there would be many who take issue with her spirituality.

Great video, OP.
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She's quite the singer - [link to www.giannajessen.com]


In her speech she mentioned George Bush signing into law not killing aborted babies who survive. It's totally understandable she would see him as a hero, considering her story, but I would love to ask her about his being responsible, ALONG WITH CONGRESS, for the Iraq and Afghani wars and all of the innocent people killed.
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Gianna Jessen, abortion survivor, speaks at Queen's Hall, Parliament House, Victoria (Australia), on the eve of the debate to decriminalize abortion in Victoria


Is abortion legal in Australia?
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She's quite the singer - [link to www.giannajessen.com]


In her speech she mentioned George Bush signing into law not killing aborted babies who survive. It's totally understandable she would see him as a hero, considering her story, but I would love to ask her about his being responsible, ALONG WITH CONGRESS, for the Iraq and Afghani wars and all of the innocent people killed.
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Yes, I caught that too. I am certainly no fan of the Dub...but small matters compared to her message.

Thank you susano, at least one person cares...it's one more than I expected...:(

. hf hf hf

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I've seen her before, and yes, VERY powerful!

One of humanities faults, due to our fallen nature, is to put those who do something good upon a pedestal, and reject criticism of them afterwards. It's hard to realize that just because someone does something good, doesn't mean they are a good person. Jesus even makes the statement that:

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
(Luk 6:33)

Sinners in this verse are those who are sinful, or actively and consciously involved in sin, those who choose to remain sinful.

But yes, it's a very minor point in her testimony.
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And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
(Luk 6:33)

Sinners in this verse are those who are sinful, or actively and consciously involved in sin, those who choose to remain sinful.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105577


Yes. There is not one of us that is good...but our Father in Heaven is good.

I consider my suffering a joy, for I suffer for my savior Christ Messiah. Glory to Him, and Him only.
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Two people! Two people have the guts enough to stand up for the truth. The FACT that we are being murdered and sacrificed to such darkness.

Has humanity really fallen away to such an extent? You people are so deluded that you believe such folly, as space aliens, that come to do just as the progressive/neocon socialist NWO wants to do to this world? There is no difference...and you are fools! Space aliens? HA...The level that you are deceived is embarrassing! And I for one, am embarrassed of you! You claim to stand for unity and peace, yet by your silence, you are willing to let the genocide of the human race proceed! You stink of hypocrisy! You vile fodder!

You are fools of the highest degree!

I am disgusted and ashamed of you!

Have you no respect for your Father who gave you life?...Have you no faculties to love and care for one another? Instead, you murder your fellow living souls?

You are so unholy! You exalt yourselves and ignore the love that has been poured out for you.

You are murderers...You are liars, you are idolators...you are wretched!


May God have mercy on your souls...although He probably won't!


And rightly so!

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I've seen her before, and yes, VERY powerful!

One of humanities faults, due to our fallen nature, is to put those who do something good upon a pedestal, and reject criticism of them afterwards. It's hard to realize that just because someone does something good, doesn't mean they are a good person. Jesus even makes the statement that:

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
(Luk 6:33)

Sinners in this verse are those who are sinful, or actively and consciously involved in sin, those who choose to remain sinful.

But yes, it's a very minor point in her testimony.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105577


Thank you for being one of two.


My God bless you.


hf
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News would be more entertaining if they would allow aposing voices to slap the shit out of each other because that dude on the right, he needs to be strangled like Homer strangles Bart.
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You can not legislate what individuals do with their own bodies it is wrong the government does not control peoples bodies they belong to them.
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You can not legislate what individuals do with their own bodies it is wrong the government does not control peoples bodies they belong to them.
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I am not asking for legislation...I am asking for rightness! stand up and do what's right!

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You can not legislate what individuals do with their own bodies it is wrong the government does not control peoples bodies they belong to them.
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Then you assume that the baby's body doesn't belong to them? Cuz the baby is a separate being from the mother, yes?
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Can I get three?

Is it possible that 3 people realise that they are being slaughtered wherever possible? You are being aborted, you are being attacked through your food, your water, your media, you are slaves! slaves to the state...and they are killing you! No actually, it's even worse. They have you so mind controlled that you're doin' it for 'em! And you think you are free...ha! Come out of Egypt!

The fact that the usual vile posers are not all over this thread shows some kind of morality...you are reluctant to slander this woman...but rather than sit and say nothing...speak out! Enough of this slaughter and darkness!!


STEP UP! SPEAK AGAINST THIS GENOCIDE!!!!!

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[link to vimeo.com]


If anyone knows how to embed this video, I sure would appreciate your help.
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Thanks OP, god bless



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I've seen her before, and yes, VERY powerful!

One of humanities faults, due to our fallen nature, is to put those who do something good upon a pedestal, and reject criticism of them afterwards. It's hard to realize that just because someone does something good, doesn't mean they are a good person. Jesus even makes the statement that:

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
(Luk 6:33)

Sinners in this verse are those who are sinful, or actively and consciously involved in sin, those who choose to remain sinful.

But yes, it's a very minor point in her testimony.


Thank you for being one of two.


My God bless you.


hf
 Quoting: ToyTV



Thank you Toy, Blessings to you as well, in the Name of Yeshua Messiah.

I know and feel your frustration and righteous anger. I take refuge in knowing that we were forewarned in advance by our LORD and SAVIOUR. I don't take comfort in it, but refuge just the same, because if I didn't have that refuge, I'd surely go insane from all the insanity and evil around us.

I hope you enter that refuge as well dear Brother/Sister. hf
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[link to vimeo.com]


If anyone knows how to embed this video, I sure would appreciate your help.


Thanks OP, god bless




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1108236



Thank YOU! you are three.

and the sadness is.......I am happy with three people who care at all.

May God bless you.
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I just watched that powerful video in full.
I mean powerful. And, if she wants to speak about God, she has every loving right to do so and her energy told me everything I needed to know about intentions.

The part below, in red bold-well, I did not know, either. I wish she would of spoken more to the subject of adoption and foster care. Very fascinating. Will look for other videos featuring her, anyways from
Her Bio was fascinating, copying here, an excerpt:

Gianna is a Christian. Her life was given to her by the grace of God. She shouldn't be walking, but more miraculous still; she should not even be alive. Gianna's biological mother was 17 when she had a saline abortion in her third trimester. Many Americans don’t realize it is legal to have an abortion throughout all nine months of pregnancy. After being burned alive for approximately 18 hours in the womb from the saline solution, Gianna was delivered alive in a Los Angeles County abortion clinic. Her medical records state, "born during saline abortion"...this is what caused her Cerebral Palsy.
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Who still performs abortions at 7 and half months gestation?
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Gianna Jessen, abortion survivor, speaks at Queen's Hall, Parliament House, Victoria (Australia), on the eve of the debate to decriminalize abortion in Victoria


Is abortion legal in Australia?
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Yep.
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Who are you to tell others how to live their life, typical christian bullshit in this thread! Abortion is not as simple or black & white as you bible bashers & pro life people seem to think it is.

If a couple or a woman decides to have an abortion its of no business to anybody else. If you do not agree with abortion your self then good for you dont do that but what makes you think you can force your morals upon everybody else, just because you think its wrong? I personally have many morals and beliefs but i dont go around trying to shove them in other peoples faces or think laws should be in place to enforce my views on unwilling people.

Also abortion is not genocide you might want to look into the actual meaning of the word before you throw it around in such an out of context way.
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Hold up there, skippy. I'm not a bible thumper and this is a legit topic for EVERYONE.

As the lady said, if the abortion was about the right of the woman, where were Gianna'a rights?
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Who still performs abortions at 7 and half months gestation?
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It's done in the US. It's called partial birth abortion. There is no legitimate medical reason for it.
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Who are you to tell others how to live their life, typical christian bullshit in this thread! Abortion is not as simple or black & white as you bible bashers & pro life people seem to think it is.

If a couple or a woman decides to have an abortion its of no business to anybody else. If you do not agree with abortion your self then good for you dont do that but what makes you think you can force your morals upon everybody else, just because you think its wrong? I personally have many morals and beliefs but i dont go around trying to shove them in other peoples faces or think laws should be in place to enforce my views on unwilling people.

Also abortion is not genocide you might want to look into the actual meaning of the word before you throw it around in such an out of context way.
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It's only sinners who see everything as gray. Ask a five year old if they think its okay to kill babies. They have more of a sense of right and wrong than you. Murder is murder is murder. If your going to allow abortion than spade them at the same time, so they don't get the chance to murder more babies because they didn't feel like being on birth control or protection. 51% of african american babies are aborted. This country will be judged, its being judged right now, and the ruling isn't going to be in our favor by a long shot.
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Thank you Toy, Blessings to you as well, in the Name of Yeshua Messiah.

I know and feel your frustration and righteous anger. I take refuge in knowing that we were forewarned in advance by our LORD and SAVIOUR. I don't take comfort in it, but refuge just the same, because if I didn't have that refuge, I'd surely go insane from all the insanity and evil around us.

I hope you enter that refuge as well dear Brother/Sister. hf
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It's brother...and take solace in the fact that you suffer for the condition of this world...you are suffering for Yeshua...and it is an honor that you have been called.

Blessings to you.
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You should at least call it by the right name. It is murder, pure and simple. It is infanticide, killing your own child and innocent person and yes they are a living person.

Abortion is to easy a word for what is done. The only way it will stop is for people to change their hearts.

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Who are you to tell others how to live their life, typical christian bullshit in this thread! Abortion is not as simple or black & white as you bible bashers & pro life people seem to think it is.

If a couple or a woman decides to have an abortion its of no business to anybody else. If you do not agree with abortion your self then good for you dont do that but what makes you think you can force your morals upon everybody else, just because you think its wrong? I personally have many morals and beliefs but i dont go around trying to shove them in other peoples faces or think laws should be in place to enforce my views on unwilling people.

Also abortion is not genocide you might want to look into the actual meaning of the word before you throw it around in such an out of context way.



Hold up there, skippy. I'm not a bible thumper and this is a legit topic for EVERYONE.

As the lady said, if the abortion was about the right of the woman, where were Gianna'a rights?
 Quoting: susano



If as the person below me said the abortion was done at 7 months then this is totally wrong but i doubt that goes on very often anymore
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Who are you to tell others how to live their life, typical christian bullshit in this thread! Abortion is not as simple or black & white as you bible bashers & pro life people seem to think it is.

If a couple or a woman decides to have an abortion its of no business to anybody else. If you do not agree with abortion your self then good for you dont do that but what makes you think you can force your morals upon everybody else, just because you think its wrong? I personally have many morals and beliefs but i dont go around trying to shove them in other peoples faces or think laws should be in place to enforce my views on unwilling people.

Also abortion is not genocide you might want to look into the actual meaning of the word before you throw it around in such an out of context way.



Hold up there, skippy. I'm not a bible thumper and this is a legit topic for EVERYONE.

As the lady said, if the abortion was about the right of the woman, where were Gianna'a rights?



If as the person below me said the abortion was done at 7 months then this is totally wrong but i doubt that goes on very often anymore
 Quoting: BillyX


Hate to break it to you Billy...it goes on every few minutes in this country alone...do some research and do what's right. You are being exterminated.
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Here is a demonstration of a PARTIAL BIRTH Abortion...
another knowledge opening video for me.
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I just watched that powerful video in full.
I mean powerful. And, if she wants to speak about God, she has every loving right to do so and her energy told me everything I needed to know about intentions.

The part below, in red bold-well, I did not know, either. I wish she would of spoken more to the subject of adoption and foster care. Very fascinating. Will look for other videos featuring her, anyways from
Her Bio was fascinating, copying here, an excerpt:

Gianna is a Christian. Her life was given to her by the grace of God. She shouldn't be walking, but more miraculous still; she should not even be alive. Gianna's biological mother was 17 when she had a saline abortion in her third trimester. Many Americans don’t realize it is legal to have an abortion throughout all nine months of pregnancy. After being burned alive for approximately 18 hours in the womb from the saline solution, Gianna was delivered alive in a Los Angeles County abortion clinic. Her medical records state, "born during saline abortion"...this is what caused her Cerebral Palsy.
 Quoting: ExhaleAeonVolts


Thank you ExhaleAeonVolts...I actually wept upon reading your post.

Being a foster parent and having adopted twin girls, who are my life, I appreciate your point of view. There mother was 15 when she had Katie and Natalie (my beautiful daughters), I cannot imagine that their life could have been snuffed out...they are amazing people...and they are only 2...just think of what they will do in this life for God.

Abortion, is the MOST SELFISH ACT I can possibly imagine!

There are soooo many people out there willing and passionate to adopt children...but these murderers would rather kill them than carry them for a measly nine months...how vain and selfish can one be?

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