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The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true?
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Lost Horizons
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6/25/2005 4:51 PM
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Is this true what has been put forth by Jay Weidner? The idea the European christians hid thier esoteric knowledge in the architecture? That from there it leads to the Hendaye cross which is encoded with the messages left from the South American as well as many other cultures? That we are in a cyclical phase of the earth spiraling to cleansing by the sun? That they had, and new the knowledge of South America nd have hidden it?
When I look to the earth I´m seeing what this is saying happening. I think we need to know.
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Lost Horizons
User ID: 7782
6/25/2005 4:54 PM
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The glory of the sun, moon, starts. Celestrial, terrestrial, etc. I know where else these symbols can be found. |
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Lost Horizons
User ID: 7782
6/25/2005 5:03 PM
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If you look closely at this crioss you also see the sword int he stone. At least I do. Is this also a reference to the legend of Camelot? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8909
6/25/2005 5:30 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Does anyone know anything about this. There are without a doubt hidden sysmbols echoeing cross cultures. Is it not time to share this info.? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543
6/25/2005 6:06 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
My suspicion (coming from a background of deep research into archaeology and mythology) is that human civilisation is periodically interrupted by vast natural disasters. The reason that this subject is regarded as "fringe" is because previous civilisations have been so thoroughly erased! Little remains apart from legends.
I should think we´ll be hit by a global catastrophe - maybe a cosmic one - within the next 50 years. The important thing is to make sure our technical knowledge survives and escapes the attentions of religious cults who would happily destroy it.
The best way to ensure transmission is to encode it in a series of meaningful legends, backed up by a number of hidden libraries where the data is recorded in some durable form. The Cross at Hendaye may represent the encoded knowledge of a previous age, although it dates from the 17th c.
Look up the "Clock of the Long Now" to see one current effort to preserve knowledge... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2090
6/25/2005 6:07 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Yes, it´s true. Jay´s video is well worth the purchase price. |
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Anonymous Coward
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6/25/2005 6:14 PM | |
X-Sited
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6/25/2005 6:28 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
would it help to hide a library of knowledge for the next time? They did that last time with a library of knowledge hidden under the Sphinx, but the elites in control wont let the info out to the rest of us.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12990
6/25/2005 8:54 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
This alignement is mathmatical. |
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Anonymous Coward
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6/25/2005 8:58 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
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6/26/2005 12:38 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
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6/26/2005 10:49 AM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Are you saying these same symbols are found in the movie war of the worlds?
It´s very suspicious to me that we can believe a people who stamped out a whole other culture. If the South Americans were able to come with a calender that is far superior to the ones we use today, shouldn´t we pay attention to there technologies? We are buying hook line and sinker what we have been fed to buy.
It´s obvious that by what Fucanelli new about the building of the shrines, and temples of the 17th century that he was a vatican insider. Mybe we should pay attention to what he is saying? |
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Lost Horizons
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6/26/2005 11:34 AM
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If you look closely at this cross you can see another clue. Apparently the sting of the zodiac all point to the center of the galaxy. Now the base of this cross is said to be a representation of earth. It is obvious looking at this cross that it is a sword symbolicaly being caste into the earth. It is telling this story. |
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The Roman
User ID: 631
6/26/2005 11:40 AM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Read someting of Fulcanelli, most of the medieval structures derived from free masons builders have hidden meaning, the Hendaye Cross locaed in the southern part of france is not ecception.
Matter is light. Energy is light. We are all light beings.
-Albert Einstein-
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Anonymous Coward
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6/26/2005 12:46 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Roman have you read what Jay Weidner says this cross is saying. Pretty important wouldn´t you say. How does one prepeare for such a thing? Perhaps we need look further to Peru. |
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The Roman
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6/26/2005 1:11 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
12014, I think that indeed the hendaye cross represent the life, death, rebirth, and new life (trasformation) cycle INRI real meanings.
But I disagree on the meaning of the XX symbolism the cross represent them in vertical
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But I still think these are actually the only part non coded and represent in roman numeral the period on wich this last part of the cycle will start the XX° (20°) century and not the end or the astral configuration of atrological signs.
The whole monument is a coded structure build form the ancient hermetic knowledge. It´s actually an open book for who can read it. And it actually just tell you in the XX° century this cycle of life death rebirth will end and a new life will start.
Matter is light. Energy is light. We are all light beings.
-Albert Einstein-
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Lost Horizons
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6/26/2005 8:28 PM
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Roman, what about the same symbols dating back to South America and the theory of 2012 and the blue kachina? That would put the XX in a different light. Also Iv´e seen these symbols used elsewhere which makes me go hmmm. It inspires another South American connection. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2090
6/26/2005 8:52 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Read up on global dimming, how global dimming just started brightening again, and then go to www.etheric.com and read about galactic superwaves. Then find Jim´s website about his translation of the Voynich Manuscript. Then take that eye symbology and look to Egypt. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15827
6/26/2005 9:06 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
The Cross makes absolutely no reference to the mayan calendar other than the the sun´s face looks mayan in origin. The Peruvian connection may be true, but that has nothing to do with 2012 whatsoever.
Plus you are all basing all this stuff on a guy fulcanelli, to whom we know nothing about and could be just fiction! Everything Wiedner is saying he bases completely on unstable ground.
Even Alchemy is unknown to us what it truly is. Why does he think we will become Homo Luminous? This is all just wild speculation on his part.
Its definitely an interesting read thats for sure.
I just think that alot of it is just a little overboard.. end of the world stuff.. the sky is falling ahhh type stuff heheh |
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Lost Horizons
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6/26/2005 9:48 PM
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6679 You are entirely right in your statements. But after watching it three times Iv´e seen the connection. It is tenous at best but there. One the original copy by Fucanelli was of about 30 and only to the ultra rich. This lends suspicions of it´s credibility. Second he got a second print 30 years later and snuck in the chapter on The cyclic cross of Hendaye. That tells us he wants the curious reader to look at this closely.
Now the South American connection. By seeing the letters were misplaced to read that one place will be safe guides one to look closer at why they misplaced the words. Now he came up with Inca, peru, caves, unca all with these letters. It is in this very place he found the extensive caves and legends. After seeing how he did this the third time I see it wasn´t so random as I thought at first.
Now the origin of the sysmbols. In this very same place they used these same three signs in legend. I´m curious is there an earlier predated coupling of these signs that is known.
The scary thing is he showed this message is similar in all cultures.
If you also watch the video you see an Aztec stepping on a Peruvian king and killing him. We know in history that this whole culture was wiped out and supressed by the Europeans. That they burned all written records becuase it was to much like a bastard form of the bible. NOw these people they wiped out had a calender that is far superior to the one we use today. Not to mention a culture that was far advanced in many other ways except warfare. So I´m watching what this area of the world has to say very closely. At least I know they haven´t had a reason to lie, and cover up in the name of greed. |
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ICF
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6/27/2005 2:06 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Omega Point Ptah, who acted as a back-up assistent to my Emmanuel education, and who has appeared physically to me, including in SION in 1992, relates that he is one who is drawing this True Grail alchemy into place. I found it curious that when I mentioned to my colleague Dan Winter that on my grandfathers side (from my mothers lineage), 200 years ago they were the Monnet family, which came from the Rennes Le Chateau region of SION document fame. His reaction of surprise was then iterated that I could use that ´for better or for worse´ ( I naturally stated I prefer the middle). And then he likened my characteristics to the Plantard de Sinclair, present grand master of Priory de SION (which I took as a mild, but humourous insult, since I find him quite ´unhandsome´. The descendency, I was told by my mother went via Monnet de Blanchefort [which I did not take seriously enough at the time, thinking that the name was only that of a Castle near Rennes les Chateau. Now it has revealed to be the base of the Vorexijah, 8-fold code, laid out in the Zodiac landscape there, and in the SION document and more]. Now having researched this recently, there is actually a clear cartography of Monnet de Blanchefort, and it goes back to the Grand Master of the Sion Order and the Templars, Bertrand de Blanchefort. It was Marie Hautpoul de Blanchefort who made the very SION document that now actually reveals the 8-folded Vortexijah symmetry, [so far only presented at the Paris seminar, where Falcanelli´s books were edited. Addition Nov]. Blanchefort, the White Stone and White Fortress of alchemy, this alchemical aspect will be presented in a later posting. In the Heraldry foundations of France, the lineage maps from Bertrand de Blanchefort, 4th Templar and Sion Order Grand Master, go directly back to Meruvingian King Dagobert II, who was assassinated on December 23rd at Stenay, his skull opened at the Pineal point, in Tibetan Buddhist MeruSheba style, who then of course goes back the Joseph of Arimathea and Mary Magdalene (see Grail Zine 14). Some of you must be saying "you must be Nuts to relate this in association with this book". Not mad, just to balance the specialness that is usually associated to such information, and also to show that there is a Midway perspective herein, where the Grail is for All. It turned out, humoursly, that Dan also was of this lineage, since he was a Sinclair (StClair) some generations back. Hence, many of us have incarnated in these gene pools, outside of the hierarchy, to transmute, relinquish, and redeem the Grail back to the Universal Grail for all, as All Is God. This is the Alchemy of Compassion. From a dreamboard perspective it is why Omega Point Ptah chose contact, because we fitted a Grail none-spelled into the hierachy of secrecy, linke in lineage without being initiated into these societies. That later criteria is an essential part of the Sons and Daughter of All-Oneness requirement for contact and providing the highest initiations of the Universal Grail Ñ secrey
prevents their contact (please remember this and make steps in being a Cup that Overfloweth, to make amends to this, if Universe Grail Unity is of interest to you: "the secret is to give away the secret." That is conscious All Is God Compassion in action, the Image of Unity incorruptable, like a Diamond, Uncuttable in its IMperishable perfection of IMManu.
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ICF
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6/27/2005 2:39 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
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Here is a very old baptismal bowl inside St Vincents church. The carving was very rough and similar to the pedestal found on the Hendaye Cross. I´ve outlined the back shape at the rear which is similar to the Basque swastika found throughout the region. There were also two ovals, an oval divided into four sections and two stars at the front of the pedestal. Note the Templar Cross and the infinity symbols on the disc that the bowl is sitting upon.The cross could also be considered as four shields or four visica piscis overlapping. |
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Anonymous Coward
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6/28/2005 11:25 AM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Good points ICF. Anyone know of any of the other messages of inner alchemy that has been wriiten in the Europena architechture?
Is this the new attempt to build the temple to God? |
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OMFG
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6/28/2005 11:28 AM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
The end is nigh! |
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ICF
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6/30/2005 12:43 PM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
The monument at Hendaye was originally placed among the dead in the parish graveyard; a fitting place for this cross dubbed "Monument to the End of Time." Why would anyone want to move it and make it - more public? It seems no one knows who created it, and no one knows why it was moved.
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Excellent |
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ICF
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7/15/2005 10:05 AM | |
Vincent Bridges
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7/15/2005 10:55 AM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Howdy,
I´m the author of the two books under discussion, with Jay Weidner, and I want to thank you all for putting your comments up on the GLP board.
I suggest that anyone interested in these topics read Mysteries of the great Cross at Hendaye: Alchemy and the End of Time, from Destiny Books/Inner Traditions, which covers the whole subject of how these insights were coded and transmitted through Gothic buildings. Jay´s video is just a jumping off point drawn largely from the work and research done for the book.
Also, you might be interested in my article Fulcanelli and the Secret of Rennes-le-Chateau in New Dawn magazine, [link to www.newdawnmagazine.com] and other articles relating directly to the alignment in 2002: [link to vincentbridges.com] and [link to dead.net] for my footnote in Grateful Dead history...lol!
Thanks again,
VB |
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Lost Horizons
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7/15/2005 11:00 AM
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Hello Vincent. I enjoyed the movie though it spooked me. In your opinion where are we now in terms of what Paul LaViollette predicted. Dr. P won´t touch this one which has me curious. |
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ICF
User ID: 223
7/15/2005 11:07 AM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
Very cool indeed, love your site as well as sangraal. It is a worthy study and keeps me returning to our sun and it´s great mysteries.
I am very interested in South American pre-euro history as it is this culture that was deemed a perverse Christianity and for that reason eliminated or attempted to eliminate it from our current worldview and consciousness.
People like yourself and Jay are tapping into knowledge that is the crux of why it was so dangerous, keep us informed of any new developments.
Vincent, I have been scouring the web for a picture of the Church in which the cross sits, do you have one you could post???
Kirtland? |
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JayRodney
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7/15/2005 11:08 AM
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I had not heard of any of this and then I was provided a link to this information by none other the Dr. Dan Burish! There is something to this believe me! |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/15/2005 11:16 AM | | Re: The cross of hendaye and the end times-Is it true? | Quote |
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"The Mysteries of the Great Cross of Hendaye reveals one of Western occultism´s deepest secrets: The alchemical transformation of base metal into gold is also the transformation of the current Iron Age into the Golden Age. Based on the work of the enigmatic 20th-century alchemist Fulcanelli, authors Weidner and Bridges show how the greatest alchemical secret is that of time itself and that coded into an obscure monument in southwestern France-the cross in the town square of Hendaye-is the imminent date of the apocalypse."
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"Decodes the message inscribed on the Great Cross of Hendaye in France.
• Uses the work of 20th-century alchemist Fulcanelli to predict the date of the fatal season of the apocalypse.
• Shows how periodic galactic alignments may cause catastrophes on Earth.
• Examines how the secret of the center of the galaxy reveals the true location of the lost civilization of Atlantis.
• Reveals the alchemical secret of the imperishable Light Body of ancient Egypt deep within our DNA.
The Mysteries of the Great Cross of Hendaye reveals one of Western occultism´s deepest secrets: The alchemical transformation of base metal into gold is also the transformation of the current Iron Age into the Golden Age. Based on the work of the enigmatic 20th-century alchemist Fulcanelli, authors Weidner and Bridges show how the greatest alchemical secret is that of time itself and that coded into an obscure monument in southwestern France--the cross in the town square of Hendaye--is the imminent date of the apocalypse. The authors´ explorations of this symbolism lead them from the cross of Hendaye to the western facade of the cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris, the Pyrenees, ancient Egypt, and the secret origins of Atlantis in Peru, to reveal that we are indeed living in a "fatal season" and that this season is intimately connected to our solar system´s alignment with the galactic center. The authors´ in-depth examination of alchemy´s connection with the coming end days also reveals that this astro-alchemical knowledge was part of the sacred science of the Egyptians and the Atlanteans, whose coded messages are, at last, deciphered to guide humanity to its future destiny.
About the Author(s) of The Mysteries of the Great Cross of Hendaye
Jay Weidner is an author and filmmaker who has produced and directed documentary films on prominent contemporary figures such as the artist Alex Grey. He lives in California. Vincent Bridges is a historian, shamanic therapist, and author who has written extensively on gnosticism, alchemy, and unsolved enigmas. He lives in North Carolina.
Praise for The Mysteries of the Great Cross of Hendaye
“Fascinating detail . . . a ground-breaking work.”
Moira Timms, author of Beyond Prophecies and Predictions
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“The authors, by their brilliantly derived mix of alchemy with astrophysics, have breathed new life into the Fulcanelli enigma.”
Joscelyn Godwin, author of Cosmic Music
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