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(Shown in a Hubble Space Telescope image, the "astrosphere" around the star L.L. Orionis approximates the heliosphere around our solar system.)

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Mission scientists got their first surprise six months after launch, once the spacecraft had scanned enough overlapping strips of sky to create a complete 360° map. Instead of recording a relatively even distribution all the way around, as expected, IBEX found that the counts of ENAs — and thus the strength of the interaction in the heliosheath — varied dramatically from place to place. The detectors even discovered a long, enhanced “ribbon,” accentuated by an especially intense hotspot or “knot,” arcing across the sky. (IBEX Explores Galactic Frontier, Releases First-Ever All-Sky Map)

Now scientists have finished assembling a second complete sweep around the sky, and IBEX has again delivered an unexpected result: the map has changed significantly. Overall, the intensity of ENAs has dropped 10% to 15%, and the hotspot has diminished and spread out along the ribbon. Details of these findings appear in the September 27th issue of Journal of Geophysical Research (Space Physics).

“We thought we might detect small changes occurring gradually throughout the Sun’s 11-year-long activity cycle, but not over just 6 months,” notes David McComas (Southwest Research Institute), principal investigator for the IBEX mission and the paper’s lead author. “These observations show that the interaction of the Sun with the interstellar medium is far more dynamic and variable than anyone envisioned.”

[link to www.nasa.gov]

(Visuals 1-5, previous information)


From Visual #6

The IBEX science team compares the first and second maps to reveal whether there are time variations in the Ribbon or the more distributed emissions around the ribbon. This animation fades between the first and second IBEX maps. We see that the first and second maps are relatively similar. However, there are significant time variations as well. These time variations are forcing scientists to try to understand how the heliosphere can be changing so rapidly.
[link to www.nasa.gov]


From Visual #7

One of the clear features visible in the IBEX maps is an apparent knot in the ribbon. Scientists were anxious to see how this structure would change with time. The second map showed that the knot in the ribbon somehow spread out. It is as if the knot in the ribbon was literally untangled over only 6 months! This visualization shows a close-up of the ribbon (green and red) superimposed on the stars and constellations in the nighttime sky. The animation begins by looking toward the nose of the heliosphere and then pans up and left to reveal the knot. The twisted structure superimposed on the map is an artist's conception of the tangled up ribbon. The animation then shows this structure untangling as we fade into the second map of the heliosphere.


From Visual #10

The changes in the size of our solar system’s boundaries also cause changes to the galactic cosmic rays that enter the solar system. Although these boundaries do a good job of deflecting the majority of harmful galactic radiation, some fraction of this galactic radiation always makes it into the solar system. When the boundaries shrink in size and the solar wind becomes weaker, galactic cosmic rays have a much easier time gaining access into the inner solar system. In contrast, when the solar wind becomes more powerful, the boundaries inflate and galactic cosmic rays have a harder time penetrating into the solar system. The discovery by IBEX reported here is consistent with inward falling of the boundaries surrounding the solar system. This should allow more galactic radiation to enter the solar system. This animation shows changes in the boundaries around our solar system as they deflate and inflate with time. The fast moving galactic cosmic rays are shown coming in from all directions. When the boundaries deflate, more of the cosmic rays make it into the inner solar system, increasing the radiation levels throughout the solar system.
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2
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My take too. They just do not know enough about what is happening out there to tell us. They are only able to say what they see.
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[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Short National Geographic article on IBEX
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Awesome :D
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There is already a thread open by Skitzo:

Thread: 2010 Mysterious Ribbon at Edge of Solar System is Changing

Yours is obviously better because it got pinned right away.

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Excellent find OP, as usual!!!

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:ahh:
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Yea I`m confused...she is alot cuter that SS..wtf...must be female Mods on this morning. he he he..

ACtually SS laid the ground work for this yesterday so Kudos...but I seriously doubt he cares wether it got pinned or not..His threads are always informative and get major attention anyhow..a Pin is just a Pin...nothing more...:)

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(Shown in a Hubble Space Telescope image, the "astrosphere" around the star L.L. Orionis approximates the heliosphere around our solar system.)
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From Visual #10

The changes in the size of our solar system’s boundaries also cause changes to the galactic cosmic rays that enter the solar system. Although these boundaries do a good job of deflecting the majority of harmful galactic radiation, some fraction of this galactic radiation always makes it into the solar system. When the boundaries shrink in size and the solar wind becomes weaker, galactic cosmic rays have a much easier time gaining access into the inner solar system. In contrast, when the solar wind becomes more powerful, the boundaries inflate and galactic cosmic rays have a harder time penetrating into the solar system. The discovery by IBEX reported here is consistent with inward falling of the boundaries surrounding the solar system. This should allow more galactic radiation to enter the solar system. This animation shows changes in the boundaries around our solar system as they deflate and inflate with time. The fast moving galactic cosmic rays are shown coming in from all directions. When the boundaries deflate, more of the cosmic rays make it into the inner solar system, increasing the radiation levels throughout the solar system.
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You rock SS.
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I love the Hubble images, but rarely get the info into what it is they're showing. It's interesting to see the correlation between other places in the universe and what happens within our own solar system. Thanks SS.
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they found a portal! many. they dont wish to tell i imagine..... good news they are letting us in on the other life-planets soon though. the public cant handle the rest for now..
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...


My take too. They just do not know enough about what is happening out there to tell us. They are only able to say what they see.
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Actually... Skitzo's was easier to understand. lol
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lol, thanks SS.
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2
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Like just how big was the knot? I mean that's a HUGE amount of material to move in just a few months. Some awesome power at work here IMO
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2

Like just how big was the knot? I mean that's a HUGE amount of material to move in just a few months. Some awesome power at work here IMO
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2

Like just how big was the knot? I mean that's a HUGE amount of material to move in just a few months. Some awesome power at work here IMO
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2

Like just how big was the knot? I mean that's a HUGE amount of material to move in just a few months. Some awesome power at work here IMO
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At least two football fields long and 3 wide..lol...Hell please don`t ask me questions on this..he he

I do recall reading just the other day that they said it could take 2 or 3,000 years for this band/ribbon to pass through earth...Now it appears perhaps they miscalculated..I assure you we are only getting bits and pieces of info on this..Not trying to spread fear but when they admitt they were wrong---then we aren`t getting the full story of their expectations.
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Yea I`m confused...she is alot cuter that SS..wtf...must be female Mods on this morning. he he he..

ACtually SS laid the ground work for this yesterday so Kudos...but I seriously doubt he cares wether it got pinned or not..His threads are always informative and get major attention anyhow..a Pin is just a Pin...nothing more...:)
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I highly doubt that I mind. :)

His source is better. There are some nice little videos on the other link though...It may help put this into perspective...(even though I still have NO clue)

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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2

Like just how big was the knot? I mean that's a HUGE amount of material to move in just a few months. Some awesome power at work here IMO
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The power of God:). Goes to show us how little we know - even all these smart scientists can still be baffled and there's so much they do not understand yet. Makes our arguments seem like a big time joke - nothing is impossible anymore. ;)

Thanks for this info SS.
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2

Like just how big was the knot? I mean that's a HUGE amount of material to move in just a few months. Some awesome power at work here IMO


The power of God:). Goes to show us how little we know - even all these smart scientists can still be baffled and there's so much they do not understand yet. Makes our arguments seem like a big time joke - nothing is impossible anymore. ;)

Thanks for this info SS.
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

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My take too. They just do not know enough about what is happening out there to tell us. They are only able to say what they see.
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The Thunderbolts guys can explain this with ease.
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So this is "Fluffy"?

But instead of saying "Fluff Cloud" it is now a ribbon?

Thanks, will ponder this info.
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2


My take too. They just do not know enough about what is happening out there to tell us. They are only able to say what they see.


The Thunderbolts guys can explain this with ease.
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yep I get immersed in that forum. Is that you field?
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Oh, kiteman has some great fun.
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So this is "Fluffy"?

But instead of saying "Fluff Cloud" it is now a ribbon?

Thanks, will ponder this info.
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Fluffy is the cloud...the magnetic is an area shaped like a ribbon within the cloud
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2


My take too. They just do not know enough about what is happening out there to tell us. They are only able to say what they see.


The Thunderbolts guys can explain this with ease.


:yep: I get immersed in that forum. Is that you field?
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No, I'm not a scientist. I just find their work fascinating.

More importantly, they have made predictions based on the Electric Universe theory that have panned out (eg. comets are NOT "dirty snowballs").

Standard Model adherents, OTOH, are forever being flummoxed, flabbergasted and gobstruck by new observations, which can be easily accounted for in the EU Theory. lol

I find it entertaining to watch the SM cretins flounder desperately around for some new "epicycle" to patch up their gravity-only bullshit, everytime a new observation drives yet another nail into SM's coffin.
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I don`t think I quite know what to say to REAL DOOM...Think I`ll stick my head in the sand...Looks and sounds like we have A LOT to learn...

cool2


My take too. They just do not know enough about what is happening out there to tell us. They are only able to say what they see.


The Thunderbolts guys can explain this with ease.
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+100
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Re: New Info from Edge of Solar System
where is all this interstellar gas coming from and why is it moving in one direction?

Makes our solar system look like a pale blue dot.
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Sickscent....I have tried to read your blog.....but I am lost....maybe it has something to do with my attention span....what is the essence of what you are trying to tell...please??





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