I'M BACK. These are my observations, please heed my warning.

What state are you in Jacob?


For the time I am back in Michigan. I may move to Montana so that I can more easily hike to Canada when the time is right, but I have a few years and I enjoy the people I have met in this area.

Well it seems that some people in the 40's aren't so clever

I'll explain this ALL OVER again.

There are two possibilites as I see it.

The first one is that there's not a "first time" per se. The second one is that in fact, as you claim, there's a first time in everything, meaning, a first time they sent you back, a first time you bury a message after ariiving, and so on...

Even when we can consider the second alternative, a loop will happen with a high grade of probability.

Let's asume there is a first time they sent you back. After you arrive, you do as instructed and you bury a message. What's the purpose of that message, according to you? To let the scientists know in some point in 2040 (or maybe some time before) that the experiment was succesful. Whatever it is, after the times passes from now until 2040, they will uncover that message, I mean, that's why you was instructed in first place isn't?

Then, the loop starts. How? Well, it's simple. When 2040 arrives, "you" (I mean, the one who is a baby now) will be choosed to participate in this experiment and will be sent back in time to 2010. Now, after you arrives (again) and if you procede as was instructed, you'll post "here", will bury the message (also again) and everything will happen more or less in the same way. Now, can you see the loop now?

Now think on this: There are two possibilites, one is that it's indeed the "first" time (I don't think "Time" works that way, but just to follow your theory) and the other one is that it's just a random event in the INFINITE loop that comes after the "first" time.

So, why your scientists assumed, since they didn't bother to search your buried message before sending you back, that this was the first time, when ALL the odds indicate that there is an extremely HIGH probability that it's not a "first" time but that this event happened in fact several times "before"? I mean you know what INFINITE means isn't?

Are you getting this, where your story flaw is? Are you going to apologize for this hoax now?

What state are you in Jacob?


For the time I am back in Michigan. I may move to Montana so that I can more easily hike to Canada when the time is right, but I have a few years and I enjoy the people I have met in this area.



Good to hear. I live in Missouri. If your ever around and you need some help with something you know where to find me. I have a friend in Bozeman Montana that could lend you some assistance depending on what you might need.

Good to hear that you made some friends. It had to be pretty lonely up there in the mountains for all those years. I live in Missouri. If your ever around and you need some help with something you know where to find me. I have a friend in Bozeman Montana that could lend you some assistance depending on what you might need.

What don't you understand? Maybe I can explain this to you in a simpler way so that you can wrap your thick skull around it my Argentinian friend.

I was alive and kicking in the year 2040 after the great tragedies of our past. I was recruited into a program and sent back in time. Now, my current time is 2010. What happened to me in the year 2040 has already happened. As far as I am concerned everyone here is living in the past and most of you are dead or missing. When I left the buried the message so that it might be received in the year 2040, there was no other message. So if there is a loop as you say, I am still on my first time through. You believe that there is a loop because you believe that the year 2040 has not happened yet. I assure you it has, I lived it, at least most of the year. All the proceeding years as well.

I believe what has happened will only happen once. And that is all that I have to say about the subject. If you could see it from my perspective it would make more sense. You still believe that the year 2040 has not happened, and all the years before it. You my friend are living in the past.

What don't you understand? Maybe I can explain this to you in a simpler way so that you can wrap your thick skull around it my Argentinian friend.

I was alive and kicking in the year 2040 after the great tragedies of our past. I was recruited into a program and sent back in time. Now, my current time is 2010. What happened to me in the year 2040 has already happened. As far as I am concerned everyone here is living in the past and most of you are dead or missing. When I left the buried the message so that it might be received in the year 2040, there was no other message. So if there is a loop as you say, I am still on my first time through. You believe that there is a loop because you believe that the year 2040 has not happened yet. I assure you it has, I lived it, at least most of the year. All the proceeding years as well.

I believe what has happened will only happen once. And that is all that I have to say about the subject. If you could see it from my perspective it would make more sense. You still believe that the year 2040 has not happened, and all the years before it. You my friend are living in the past.


What I don't understand is WHY you're unable to understand what I said. I'm pretty sure is clear, but for some strange reason, you don't get it... right...

I don't "believe" there is a loop, it's a simple logical presentation. If you don't alter the current timeline too much, what you experienced as a child will happen all over again, and in some point in the future, "you" will be recruited all over again to this time travel experiment. Do you see the loop dude? Come on, you can do it! It doesn't require advanced physics after all! The loop is inevitable always if you don't alter the timeline too much, and I don't see why that could happen if you're doing what was instructed, including the buried message.

Of course, besides, you don't deliver any kind of evidence. But I feel that at this point that's no longer necessary, the flaws I already marked over and over again seems to be enough to debunk your story. The only mistery that remains now is WHY you do this. But I'm not particulary interested on that.

However, I feel compelled to continue posting these flaws to alert other people here. Every time I feel it's necessary, I'll do it again.

I don't "believe" there is a loop, it's a simple logical presentation. If you don't alter the current timeline too much, what you experienced as a child will happen all over again, and in some point in the future, "you" will be recruited all over again to this time travel experiment. Do you see the loop dude? Come on, you can do it! It doesn't require advanced physics after all! The loop is inevitable always if you don't alter the timeline too much, and I don't see why that could happen if you're doing what was instructed, including the buried message.

Of course, besides, you don't deliver any kind of evidence. But I feel that at this point that's no longer necessary, the flaws I already marked over and over again seems to be enough to debunk your story. The only mistery that remains now is WHY you do this. But I'm not particulary interested on that.

However, I feel compelled to continue posting these flaws to alert other people here. Every time I feel it's necessary, I'll do it again.

There is a flaw in your concept of time logic. You are working on the premise that time functions in a linear, logical way. I believe that premise, based on unclassified advanced physics, is not relevant to "time". There are clues to this, researching all parameters of the "Montauk Project".

Hello Jacob.
A few questions. Please.

1. Do you know what happens to NYC

2. You said you hunted for food. Can you tell me what specific kind of weapon you used, and what animals were left to eat.

3. Where did you learn your computer skills.

4. Did you bring an electronic devices back with you.

5. My Wife asked me to ask you. Do you plan to marry and have
children. Since you know what will happen.

6. What books did you read in 2040

7. Who is running the show in 2040

Thanks. CAT5656

Thanks for the reply, give me some good idea what to prepare. One more thing, do you happen to know the condition of countries other than America? Is the war destruction worldwide?

I offer other proof as well. You see, I know many things about this time. I also know of some technologies that most people aren't aware of. Specifically I would like to elaborate on one piece of technology in the hopes that someone here is familiar and can confirm my account.

There is a device that I saw when I was first taken to the complex outside of Boulder Colorado where the Time Travel machine is located.

This device should be around in 2010, since there havn't been a lot of advances in technology after 2012. Let me describe it to you.

The device is oval shaped and about the size of one of those USB Drives that I recently purchased. It has numbers on it that change every few seconds. It is some kind of a time lock combination that allows access to the facility. The scientist had to enter the combination a few times into the door before it accepted. Because he entered it too slowly and it changed.

If anyone is familiar with a device like this, please let me know. It was all black, had a readout with 6 or 8 numbers on it. It constantly changes numbers I would say every 5 seconds. Somebody here must be familiar with this technology. I had never seen it before or since.

The device was in use by the Military. So anyone who is in the Military might have a better chance of having seen one of these small devices before.

Here's my original post

Thread: I HAVE TIME TRAVELED FROM THE YEAR 2040 to 2010, AND I'M STUCK HERE!

Someone was kind enough to compile a summary of all my posts, I think around page 17.


I have traveled to Candle Lake and checked it out. I am now positive this is a safe location. It has taken me a while, I have mostly used public transportation and hitch hiking, as well as a lot of rugged walking to cross back and forth. I hiked through Flathead and then Glacier parks, getting to Montana and back was the hardest part. I met with no resistance and found the trip went fairly smooth. Took several weeks though, if someone had a car they could shave off a large portion of that time.


On my journey's I met with many people across this country, mostly small town folk. Not a single person I met wasn't concerned with 2012. A few people who I got along with I went so far as to share my story and some advice with them. I had a lot of time to think, and I thought I should share this information with those here on Godlikeproductions who have been so kind to me. To those who have been rude to me here, please just keep moving on, I have no time to talk to you or convince you of your ignorant ways.

My warning to those who will listen is simple.

YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF FUCKING TIME PEOPLE! Nobody is prepared, not one person I talked to could say definitively that they could grab all of their stuff and supplies and be ready for 3 months of living without electricity or water pumped to them or food bought at the store. I found most people goto the store every week, and some of these people go several times a week! I couldn't believe it when one guy said he goes to the store to buy food every day!

You need to get prepared, you need at minimum the following supplies that I will list here.

A tent.
A sleeping bag.
A good compact pillow.
Medical supplies including as many pills for pain, antibiotics, and as many ace bandages as you can carry.
Super glue.
Duck tape, the silver kind works best.
A small handgun with several hundred rounds of ammunition.
A hunting rifle with several thousand rounds of ammunition.
A hunting/carving knife.
Water filtration system, any 5 stage process should do as long as you also bring something to kill all the parasites and bacteria. Iodine or bleach work well.
A cast iron skillet, must be cast iron. Work as both a shield and a cooking product. I have knocked out at least one person with a cast iron skillet. I can also attest to their durability when being fired at by a high caliber weapon.
Get yourself a backpack that also has wheels. Trust me, when its flat enough you'll appreciate those wheels. You can load a lot of stuff into a pack and then wheel it along.
Then go out and buy as many mre's or pre-packaged food that will survive at least 5 years.
You need a flashlight that shakes, I don't know what else to call them. I've also seen some that wind up. You can forget about batteries, they'll die out quickly.
Finally, start camping, start right away. Find a place near you and go out there with your family if you have one. Very soon you will realize how unprepared you are. You will make adjustments by learning how to live off the land. Get out there and if you can survive 2 weeks with only what is in your pack, with only what you can physically carry with you, then you MIGHT have a chance at surviving.

I hope this helps!

Here's my original post

Thread: I HAVE TIME TRAVELED FROM THE YEAR 2040 to 2010, AND I'M STUCK HERE!

Someone was kind enough to compile a summary of all my posts, I think around page 17.


I have traveled to Candle Lake and checked it out. I am now positive this is a safe location. It has taken me a while, I have mostly used public transportation and hitch hiking, as well as a lot of rugged walking to cross back and forth. I hiked through Flathead and then Glacier parks, getting to Montana and back was the hardest part. I met with no resistance and found the trip went fairly smooth. Took several weeks though, if someone had a car they could shave off a large portion of that time.


On my journey's I met with many people across this country, mostly small town folk. Not a single person I met wasn't concerned with 2012. A few people who I got along with I went so far as to share my story and some advice with them. I had a lot of time to think, and I thought I should share this information with those here on Godlikeproductions who have been so kind to me. To those who have been rude to me here, please just keep moving on, I have no time to talk to you or convince you of your ignorant ways.

My warning to those who will listen is simple.

YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF FUCKING TIME PEOPLE! Nobody is prepared, not one person I talked to could say definitively that they could grab all of their stuff and supplies and be ready for 3 months of living without electricity or water pumped to them or food bought at the store. I found most people goto the store every week, and some of these people go several times a week! I couldn't believe it when one guy said he goes to the store to buy food every day!

You need to get prepared, you need at minimum the following supplies that I will list here.

A tent.
A sleeping bag.
A good compact pillow.
Medical supplies including as many pills for pain, antibiotics, and as many ace bandages as you can carry.
Super glue.
Duck tape, the silver kind works best.
A small handgun with several hundred rounds of ammunition.
A hunting rifle with several thousand rounds of ammunition.
A hunting/carving knife.
Water filtration system, any 5 stage process should do as long as you also bring something to kill all the parasites and bacteria. Iodine or bleach work well.
A cast iron skillet, must be cast iron. Work as both a shield and a cooking product. I have knocked out at least one person with a cast iron skillet. I can also attest to their durability when being fired at by a high caliber weapon.
Get yourself a backpack that also has wheels. Trust me, when its flat enough you'll appreciate those wheels. You can load a lot of stuff into a pack and then wheel it along.
Then go out and buy as many mre's or pre-packaged food that will survive at least 5 years.
You need a flashlight that shakes, I don't know what else to call them. I've also seen some that wind up. You can forget about batteries, they'll die out quickly.
Finally, start camping, start right away. Find a place near you and go out there with your family if you have one. Very soon you will realize how unprepared you are. You will make adjustments by learning how to live off the land. Get out there and if you can survive 2 weeks with only what is in your pack, with only what you can physically carry with you, then you MIGHT have a chance at surviving.

I hope this helps!

Then, the loop starts. How? Well, it's simple. When 2040 arrives, "you" (I mean, the one who is a baby now) will be choosed to participate in this experiment and will be sent back in time to 2010. Now, after you arrives (again) and if you procede as was instructed, you'll post "here", will bury the message (also again) and everything will happen more or less in the same way. Now, can you see the loop now?

Yes OP, that's all very well - but we need a date damnit. Give us a date, man!


There was some kind of crisis in the Middle East before the 2012 elections. A lot of countries sent armies to the area. This happens in the run up to the elections in the USA in November of 2012. There was a call to bomb one countries facilities, then there was a counter strike and that is when all hell breaks loose and there is an all out ground war that does not immediately involve any nuclear weapons.

The Tea Party organizes protests in DC against the war and this is just shortly before the election now, a few days before. My understanding is that the lead up to this takes at least 6 weeks. This shakes up the elections and all the political folks who were ahead are then behind in the polls. A dramatic shift happens in the national consensus. After the elections there are problems, people believe that the elections were not official or rigged.

Then there is a blackout and they stop reporting regular news, I believe this is when the government takes control. Then there is a problem with the Internet, it either stops working or is shut off. Shortly after that there is an electrical blackout. The only news anyone got was through radio, my Dad listened to the radio in the truck during this time. Then he heard something he didn't like and I remember standing there in awe of how panicked he seemed. I remember my parents rushing around the house, gathering up things and putting them in the truck. Then we were gone. This is one of the earliest memories I have, its rather vague, but later on my Dad helped fill in most of the rest. He never told me what he heard on the radio that freaked him out so much though.

Now as I said, the last newspaper that we saw at the Denver Post printing presses was dated November 22nd. It had in huge print on the front, "PRES OBAMA TO STEP DOWN!" and other headlines about a Black Friday but I am not sure why it was black. Sometime before the new year, my parents and I were living up in the mountains, this is after the news blackout and electricity stopped working. We lived there for many years, only getting news second hand a few times a year when we encountered someone out in the woods. We lived there for 15 years. For at least the first 2 years there was an orange glow on the horizon if you hiked up to the top of one of the mountains our cabin was located by. I remember seeing it and thinking it was normal, and only asking when I was about 4 or 5 years old, why the orange glow had gone away. My father said it was the Fires of Civilization but I still don't understand what he meant. I now believe it was many large forest fires probably caused by nuclear weapons.

If everything happens like I said in 2012, and I don't see why it wouldn't, I certainly havn't changed anything, then you need to be prepared. You all need to be prepared to defend yourselves and get out of the cities. You will know I am telling the truth in 2 years time, when there is war in the middle east and the Tea Party marches on DC and after the elections when there is a debate about the legitimacy of the current and past elections. Then there will be the news blackout, the Internet stops working, and then the electricity goes dead. I am pretty sure the last bit happened right around the date of the last Newspaper we could find which was dated November 22nd. So you should know by then. I can't say how much time you have after that, since we left Boulder for 15 years and didn't return. I think the war over here started before January 2013. To be safe, leave before the end of November, or earlier.

Now, can anyone tell me, since I am curious, what it means to have a "Black Friday"? That was a headline in the newspaper at the Denver Post that I saw. Does this mean a bad day? Does it have to do with astrology or something?

Thank you.

Sometime before the new year, my parents and I were living up in the mountains, this is after the news blackout and electricity stopped working. We lived there for many years, only getting news second hand a few times a year when we encountered someone out in the woods. We lived there for 15 years. For at least the first 2 years there was an orange glow on the horizon if you hiked up to the top of one of the mountains our cabin was located by. I remember seeing it and thinking it was normal, and only asking when I was about 4 or 5 years old, why the orange glow had gone away. My father said it was the Fires of Civilization but I still don't understand what he meant. I now believe it was many large forest fires probably caused by nuclear weapons.

Rule 1, I can't kill anybody.
Rule 2, I can't say or do anything that would result in someones death.
Rule 3, I can't prevent someone from dying who was supposed to die.