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The Great Warning ~ Don't be deceived

 
Lester

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In Luke 16:17 Yahushua confirms the permanent validity of the Law: "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the Law to fail." Dare we appeal to any other human authority in an attempt to evade Commandment-keeping, including the Fourth - the Sabbath? We cannot over-emphasise Yahushua's statement, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth," Matt. 28:18. He is our only Supreme Authority. He is the only Head (authority) of His Body, the congregation or assembly. Read also 1 Tim. 6:3-4 and 2 John v.9.

Rome usurped that authority, and today's christians follow Rome's lead.
 Quoting: Shamar



Jesus also Witnesses to the woman he saves from death by stoning (let he that is blameless among you throw the first stone), "Go and sin no more." Yet, I doubt you even "believe" that is possible...

Can you even begin to understand Ezekiel 36:27??
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

HIM Having Put "MY Spirit Within you" (becoming Born-Again) is what Enables you to "Walk In MY Statutes, Keep HIS Judgments, and DO THEM"...

Doesn't matter if you keep Sabbath, eliminate the vowels when you spell YahWeh or God, or refer to Christ Jesus as Yeshua, Yahushua, or make pretense at anything else that smacks of religion and cultism.

ALL that matters is giving your heart Unto The Father so HE has your leave, your permission to change your life.......

Until God changes your life you remain a wretch of a carnal-hearted sinner, no matter how proudly you think you Serve HIM.

See my witness two posts up for more on giving your life Unto The Father...
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In Luke 16:17 Yahushua confirms the permanent validity of the Law: "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the Law to fail." Dare we appeal to any other human authority in an attempt to evade Commandment-keeping, including the Fourth - the Sabbath? We cannot over-emphasise Yahushua's statement, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth," Matt. 28:18. He is our only Supreme Authority. He is the only Head (authority) of His Body, the congregation or assembly. Read also 1 Tim. 6:3-4 and 2 John v.9.

Rome usurped that authority, and today's christians follow Rome's lead.



Jesus also Witnesses to the woman he saves from death by stoning (let he that is blameless among you throw the first stone), "Go and sin no more." Yet, I doubt you even "believe" that is possible...

Can you even begin to understand Ezekiel 36:27??
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

HIM Having Put "MY Spirit Within you" (becoming Born-Again) is what Enables you to "Walk In MY Statutes, Keep HIS Judgments, and DO THEM"...

Doesn't matter if you keep Sabbath, eliminate the vowels when you spell YahWeh or God, or refer to Christ Jesus as Yeshua, Yahushua, or make pretense at anything else that smacks of religion and cultism.

ALL that matters is giving your heart Unto The Father so HE has your leave, your permission to change your life.......

Until God changes your life you remain a wretch of a carnal-hearted sinner, no matter how proudly you think you Serve HIM.

See my witness two posts up for more on giving your life Unto The Father...
 Quoting: Lester

Lester I have given my life to my Father despite your carnal judging. And I will spell His name and say His name the way HE wants me to and not you. I am not here to compel anybody to do anything that they don't follow. Neither did Yeshua. Why don't you follow HIS example if you are so full of Him?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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bump for 10/13

The "Miracle of the Sun" in Fatima occurred on this day in 1917.
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Lester

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Your own writing here gives witness otherwise.

Unable to grasp and proclaim that God Has Delivered you from sin? Then HE hasn't, and you are not yet Born-Again, Born-From-Above, or Regenerated...

How trite that you author a thread warning "don't be deceived" yet are yourself unable to be anything else but deceived...

Witness is not judgment.
Rebuke among Christians is not judgment either.

Self-will cannot make your Leap Of Faith successful.
Accepting Christ is not surrender Unto The Father.

No witness from you in 24 pages as to what you "Know".


Christ Jesus says in Revelation 3 that HE Would Rather Christians be Hot or Cold rather than lukewarm...

Lukewarm is what you are; almost willing to Trust The Father Completely and Fully, but yet still have yet to do so...

The Lukewarms are so pleasing to God that HE Will Spew them forth...


Can't trust me when I witness you must Trust God Fully and Completely with your life? If you don't understand this is True, then all your rejection of me is just surrogate for your rejection of HIM...

Can't see that?
Can't be honest with yourself just this one time, this once when All You Are depends upon it???

I am just grateful that I was so fully broken as to feel I had to take action or die sooner than later. I Knew I was incompetent when it came to my life, (even if no one else would say so). I Knew in my heart that only by giving my life Unto The Father could I become Who I Wanted to be; HIS Vessel.


There is no way the carnal-hearted can bypass living in-deception; it is implicit.

Can't witness you Know HIM and were Delivered Into HIM? Then you don't and you weren't...

But, you could be.
Just takes Lifting Up The Son Of Man and making your surrender.


Likely there is nothing of-me you would approve of. I felt the same way on June 23rd 1984. God didn't Give me A New Heart later that day to become who I wanted. I gave HIM my heart to become Who HE WANTED me to be. Since Feb 25th of 2004 HE Has Enabled me to witness.

Were these not the final moments, we might be on more friendly terms. Yet there would be nothing genuine, or friendly about me if I simply ignored the errors Christian strivers shout out. It doesn't matter to me if you approve or not. Knowing HIM is all that matters, if you truly Love HIM. Now is the time to Seek HIM in earnest prayer and Tell HIM so...

I also write my witness not just for the person I'm replying to but that any other reader might understand and take action. Doesn't matter if you understand that either, but that is how I have always written my witness.
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YAH Massive Stone has a pretty good theory imo ~

From him:
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From the Catholic Book "Thunder of Justice" written by The Flynn's on page 329-330

This is a message they received from "Mary"

"If my Adversary is signing, with his mark, all his followers, the time has come when I also, your heavenly leader, am signing, with MY heavenly seal, all those who have consecrated themselves to MY IMMACULATE Heart and have formed part of MY army. I am imprinting MY seal on your foreheads with the most holy sign of the Cross of my Son Jesus.

I am imprinting upon YOUR HANDS my seal which is the sign of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Allow yourselves all to be signed on the forehead and on the hand with MY motherly seal."


what deception!! She's coming alright, to put *her* mark on foreheads.

Completely contradictory to the words of Yeshua Himself.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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I always questioned those sites where we have to plead with "JESUS" for intercession as if to make us believe we have no direct access to GOD.

PR

you have access to the Father only through the High Priest. It has always been that way, at least as far as our Bible goes. And, that book was written for His people, not all of mankind.

I'm telling you ~ it's a war out there, up there, all around us. It's a war going on.

Choose this day whom you will serve!
 Quoting: Shamar


Father, Son, The Holy Ghost. I.m not sure you understand the trinity. No medium is needed to get a direct line to God.
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you are not yet Born-Again, Born-From-Above, or Regenerated...
 Quoting: Lester

Born again, born from above, the regeneration is AT THE BLOWING OF THE LAST TRUMP.

At the last trump we shall be CHANGED. Remember??
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bump for 10/13

The "Miracle of the Sun" in Fatima occurred on this day in 1917.
 Quoting: ZTE

I have a GREAT article from David Duncan, published in Watcher Magazine in January 2007, but the link is no longer live. I will retype it and save as a word document and then copy paste bits and pieces......this is probably one of the most phenomenal summaries I have seen. I think he has nailed pretty well and it matches YAH 's post.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Here is a blurb:

In 1976 Karol Wojtkyla (soon to be JPII) said in NY in a speech:

"We are now standing in the fact of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through -- a test of two thousand years of culture and Christian civilization... " .. he was pointing to a competition he already saw... between the world's only three internationally based power structures for true global hegemony.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Here is another blurb:

It needs to be shown that Ratzinger throughout JP's papacy, was deeply committed to JP II. oth of them have the same God and she is the mother, with child. JP's personal motto was Totus Tuus, meaning -- with reference to mary -- I am totally yours.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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On May 13, 1982, JPII wa shot, in St. peter's square. The gun had been aimed at his head, but he leaned forward in just a moment of time to look at the pin on the blouse of a girl, a pin with image of the Virgin of Fatima, and this was on the anniversary date of the first of the marian apparation of the 3 portuguese children, leading up to to Fatima on October 13 of that year. more to come
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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you are not yet Born-Again, Born-From-Above, or Regenerated...

Born again, born from above, the regeneration is AT THE BLOWING OF THE LAST TRUMP.

At the last trump we shall be CHANGED. Remember??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129064



What I "remember" and witness is how God Changed my life; gave me A New Heart Of-HIS Flesh, Enabled me to Know HIM, Know HIS Will and Gave me the power to carry it out without continuing to sin.

You can "believe" what you choose to rationalize and interpret from your self-guided readings of Scripture. Jesus Brought us The Way through which we can Know The Father Directly and Personally. If you can Trust God Fully, and give HIM your life; you can likely make your Leap Of Faith and Come Unto The Father.

Otherwise, you can do as you prefer to believe and indulge your carnal rationalizations.
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you are not yet Born-Again, Born-From-Above, or Regenerated...

Born again, born from above, the regeneration is AT THE BLOWING OF THE LAST TRUMP.

At the last trump we shall be CHANGED. Remember??



What I "remember" and witness is how God Changed my life; gave me A New Heart Of-HIS Flesh, Enabled me to Know HIM, Know HIS Will and Gave me the power to carry it out without continuing to sin.

You can "believe" what you choose to rationalize and interpret from your self-guided readings of Scripture. Jesus Brought us The Way through which we can Know The Father Directly and Personally. If you can Trust God Fully, and give HIM your life; you can likely make your Leap Of Faith and Come Unto The Father.

Otherwise, you can do as you prefer to believe and indulge your carnal rationalizations.
 Quoting: Lester

and how exactly does that address end times prophecy?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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If they edited the bible and other stuff and use symbolism and other means, why haven`t they, in the last 1500 years or so, edited out the most important or blatantly obvious part that exposes them, the number of the beast part?
Why have they kept this in?

I hope you get this.

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If they edited the bible and other stuff and use symbolism and other means, why haven`t they, in the last 1500 years or so, edited out the most important or blatantly obvious part that exposes them, the number of the beast part?
Why have they kept this in?

I hope you get this.
 Quoting: Dig

that is an excellent question and one that some of us have been delving into.

I have a great link if you'd like to look at it.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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I'll take a gander.
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O_o
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I'll take a gander.
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Here ya go......happy reading!

[link to www.sa-hebroots.com]
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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you are not yet Born-Again, Born-From-Above, or Regenerated...

Born again, born from above, the regeneration is AT THE BLOWING OF THE LAST TRUMP.

At the last trump we shall be CHANGED. Remember??



What I "remember" and witness is how God Changed my life; gave me A New Heart Of-HIS Flesh, Enabled me to Know HIM, Know HIS Will and Gave me the power to carry it out without continuing to sin.

You can "believe" what you choose to rationalize and interpret from your self-guided readings of Scripture. Jesus Brought us The Way through which we can Know The Father Directly and Personally. If you can Trust God Fully, and give HIM your life; you can likely make your Leap Of Faith and Come Unto The Father.

Otherwise, you can do as you prefer to believe and indulge your carnal rationalizations.

and how exactly does that address end times prophecy?
 Quoting: Shamar

Why do we need end-time prophecy? So we can clean up our act at the last minute? That is not love based, it is fear based. If you are changing your life and trying to change your relationship with the Creator at the last minute it is too late.

My problem with RC practice has always been go do whatever you want, and then run to confession (hopefully in time) before you die. It is not about a personal relationship with God that reflects your relationship with Him in your day-to-day actions and reactions. If you are right with God, you do the right thing most times. We want to strive to be one with our Creator. As we achieve this, our lives will reflect this.

This last minute stuff is not going to work for anyone.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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you are not yet Born-Again, Born-From-Above, or Regenerated...

Born again, born from above, the regeneration is AT THE BLOWING OF THE LAST TRUMP.

At the last trump we shall be CHANGED. Remember??



What I "remember" and witness is how God Changed my life; gave me A New Heart Of-HIS Flesh, Enabled me to Know HIM, Know HIS Will and Gave me the power to carry it out without continuing to sin.

You can "believe" what you choose to rationalize and interpret from your self-guided readings of Scripture. Jesus Brought us The Way through which we can Know The Father Directly and Personally. If you can Trust God Fully, and give HIM your life; you can likely make your Leap Of Faith and Come Unto The Father.

Otherwise, you can do as you prefer to believe and indulge your carnal rationalizations.

and how exactly does that address end times prophecy?

Why do we need end-time prophecy? So we can clean up our act at the last minute? That is not love based, it is fear based. If you are changing your life and trying to change your relationship with the Creator at the last minute it is too late.

My problem with RC practice has always been go do whatever you want, and then run to confession (hopefully in time) before you die. It is not about a personal relationship with God that reflects your relationship with Him in your day-to-day actions and reactions. If you are right with God, you do the right thing most times. We want to strive to be one with our Creator. As we achieve this, our lives will reflect this.

This last minute stuff is not going to work for anyone.
 Quoting: kat

End time prophecy is what got me started in really studying the scriptures.......It was definitely most profitable for me.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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You can "believe" what you choose to rationalize and interpret from your self-guided readings of Scripture.
 Quoting: Lester

Self guided readings of Scriptures- that's one phrase i will always misunderstand/misread.

What did you mean with that?
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You can "believe" what you choose to rationalize and interpret from your self-guided readings of Scripture.

Self guided readings of Scriptures- that's one phrase i will always misunderstand/misread.

What did you mean with that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1130155


If you are Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again, your comprehension of Holy Scripture IS Given By The Holy Spirit. If you don't Abide With HIM, your reading of Scripture is rationalized per your carnal self-will and predisposition.

Anyone who calls him/herself a "Believer" in context of their Relationship With God has yet to be Born-Again and actually has no Relationship With HIM. Until God Gives you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh, you remain apart from HIM; doesn't matter what you rationalize or decide.

If you Know God The Father, you will also Know Scripture and See The Witness Of and For Christ Jesus throughout The Old Testament. Many claim Paul wasn't Of-HIM; because they themselves are not Born-Again and thereby are not Of-HIM. The reverse is true for them who always cite Paul but cannot witness The Gospel.

Self-will, no matter how well-intentioned is always apart from God.

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You can "believe" what you choose to rationalize and interpret from your self-guided readings of Scripture.

Self guided readings of Scriptures- that's one phrase i will always misunderstand/misread.

What did you mean with that?


If you are Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again, your comprehension of Holy Scripture IS Given By The Holy Spirit. If you don't Abide With HIM, your reading of Scripture is rationalized per your carnal self-will and predisposition.

Anyone who calls him/herself a "Believer" in context of their Relationship With God has yet to be Born-Again and actually has no Relationship With HIM. Until God Gives you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh, you remain apart from HIM; doesn't matter what you rationalize or decide.

If you Know God The Father, you will also Know Scripture and See The Witness Of and For Christ Jesus throughout The Old Testament. Many claim Paul wasn't Of-HIM; because they themselves are not Born-Again and thereby are not Of-HIM. The reverse is true for them who always cite Paul but cannot witness The Gospel.

Self-will, no matter how well-intentioned is always apart from God.
 Quoting: Lester

The problem that I see Lester, to combat is, everyone claims to hear the truth, and to speak the truth. It is why we are told to test the spirits as to the authenticity of the message. Your message leads to YHVH. Others do as well. I think (and this is a discussion forum) that as many parts of the body, we as believers have different learnings from our Father to present to each other so that finally, Ephesians 4 (i believe) will ultimately be fulfilled.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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yes

10He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.)

11And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,

12for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;

13until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Re: The Great Warning ~ Don't be deceived
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still future.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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If you are Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again,
 Quoting: Lester

I am NOT BORN AGAIN YET. If My Father is willing, i will be.... but NEVER EARLIER than the 7th trumpet. Can you make out the caps lock?

BTW, they're in bold.
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10/15/2010 12:30 PM
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The problem that I see Lester, to combat is, everyone claims to hear the truth, and to speak the truth. It is why we are told to test the spirits as to the authenticity of the message. Your message leads to YHVH. Others do as well. I think (and this is a discussion forum) that as many parts of the body, we as believers have different learnings from our Father to present to each other so that finally, Ephesians 4 (i believe) will ultimately be fulfilled.
 Quoting: Shamar



The only way Unto The Father is By Christ Jesus.
I can acknowledge HIS Name as Yeshua, Yeshua Hamashiach, and other variations; but Jesus IS The Name God Put on my heart to Know. Only One Way Unto The Father.

Do you understand that much of Paul and the "test the spirits" citation is PREACHED to those not yet Believers, and is not applicable to those Born-Again?

The Holy Spirit Within Gives you HIS Witness.
If you are Born-Again, you Know and Fully Trust HIM.

There are no "learnings" from "Believers".
Believers do not have HIS Heart or Know anything Of-HIM.
They have no witness, nothing to share since they Know nothing and have Seen nothing Of-HIM.

My "message" does not lead to YahWeh.
I am giving Witness of surrender as the Leap Of Faith.
Only by manifesting our heart Unto The Father can we be Brought Into HIS-Accord.

Every Bible Prophecy Will Be Fulfilled.
There is no concern for the Born-Again about God and what HE IS Doing. If you Abide In-HIM you Know, if not carnality leads to all sorts of conjecture and theorizing.

I find a great deal of error in those who insist on using hebraic names for God, who will not claim Christianity as God's Banner to the world and The Way, and to those who manifest trappings of Self in their worship or witness.


Fact is this: All persons not presently Of-HIM are deceived. Self, carnality, natural-man whatever you choose to call the heart of stone condition, is apart from God. These are the final moments. I have been witnessing this for over 6.5 years. In context, as a day Unto The Lord is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day, the time The Bridegroom has been tarrying, or the extra time The Father Has Given us to Come Unto HIM is like several minutes...

Jesus Witnesses that in the final moments, only "the very elect" will not (because they cannot) be deceived.

Just as we cannot seek HIM only for our salvation's sake; I have learned the deceived will hold-fast to their carnality.

If we Trust God Fully, we have no desperation or intensity of purpose to "get them saved or Born-Again". We can't get anyone "anything". Only their heart can choose to manifest self Unto HIM. Witness is given to encourage and maybe strike that chord the Believer has felt, but not acted upon.

It doesn't matter about those in-religion. God Knows all mens hearts and Knows religion has failed to convey The Witness of Christ Jesus and specifically surrender/Lifting UP The Son Of Man per John 3:14.

Years ago I was Given Witness/Revelation that "anyone who has Loved Christ Jesus with a true heart, even as a child; will not be lost or condemned". I have witnessed this routinely since.

God's Will IS Always Perfect!
If we are HIS we Trust HIM and are relieved of anxiety and self-willed efforts. God's Will is all that matters.

If we are HIS, we have died unto this world and nothing matters but doing HIS Will, and we live without fear.

As much as I would have all persons Know HIM and Know the joy that has been my life since I made my surrender, I Know God's Will is not that this should be.

24 or 27 pages of mostly conjecture.
Nice that so many are thinking about God.
Too bad so few will or have taken action to manifest their hearts Unto The Father...

Maranatha!!!
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 Quoting: Lester

The born again in the here and now world crap comes from the evangelical seminaries,
Lester! Grow up dude! You WILL (future tense) be born again, if you love the CREATOR.
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The born again in the here and now world crap comes from the evangelical seminaries,
Lester! Grow up dude! You WILL (future tense) be born again, if you love the CREATOR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1131266


Sorry, but if you could witness Ezekiel 36:26-27 you would be onto something that matters.

Evangelical seminaries?
When I gave my life to God and KNEW that I had been In-HIS-Presence and Given a new heart. I felt like and was a different person in all respects related to HIS Giving me Victory over carnal-self and Coming Into HIS Accord.

You have never Trusted God Completely or willingly gave up your life Unto The Father; otherwise you would KNOW!

Nothing "in the future" about being Born-Again.
Maybe for you? Likely you cannot bring yourself to even contemplate that only God IS Worthy of your Trust and Confidence; yet you will not tell HIM so...

Rather funny that you choose to call my witness "crap", but plainly what you are denying is that my witness is true.

Think God needs to Manifest HIS Will in accordance with what you are willing to concede or "believe"?

Deny my witness? How much further will you bring yourself to Deny The Holy Spirit? Plainly you have religion, but no heart For HIM...

Judgmental? Not hardly. Nicodemus rejected The Witness Of Christ Jesus on this very same subject. "Marvel not that I say unto you, ye must be Born-Again!" Of course, Ol' Nic was a pharisee; you seem of the same ilk.

Jesus also Witnessed "Go and sin no more". Was HE lying? Not possible?

You have to work all this stuff out in your head?
Then you are one whose "heart has waxed cold" As HE Witnesses in Matt 13:11-17. You can't understand God with your head, only your heart. Can't see my witness? Doesn't matter to me one bit.

Thanks for illustrating the error of religion and carnal-heart.

You think death even matters anymore after you give your life Unto The Father? We who are HIS are HIS Forever, and our being Brought Into HIS Accord lasts forever... All about your heart, your soul; your Recognition Of-HIM and your unconditional surrender, acceptance of HIS Will no matter what it may be with the Knowledge that HIS Will IS Always Perfect!

Sorry, but you give no witness and know nothing that is Of-HIM.
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 Quoting: Lester

OK. What's your view on these end time themes that we hear these days?

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