The Great Warning ~ Don't be deceived

Oh so true. We will never receive what is bad for us even if we think it is good for us at the time. Our angels are well aware of the lessons we need to learn in this life and they are going to help us learn them. Part of their purpose for being with us.

But for the small things in life our angels will never let us down.

Not ignoring you, even though I don't want to change the course of this thread.....but since you and I are both looking at the gods and the history thereof, can you share a succinct source of your information? maybe not since you have many years of studying. But I would like to look at what you are looking at.

And i will be back with why I believe Yehsuah is OF Yah.

Oh yeah. Good ole Project Bluebeam. Having followed the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project info for over 10 years it makes me wonder if they have the time travel technology to go back and do a Bluebeam trick at Fatima. Who knows what they have interfered with over the years.

As for miracles, the Christ healed all every time someone asked, and even at times when they did not ask, like the woman who thought if she simply touched the hem of his garment she would be healed, and was! He felt the power go out of him. The folks who go to these sites for healing from whatever "virgin" is supposed to be there are usually not healed. There are a few miracles to keep people interested and believing, but just enough for that. Never more, or all involved. Does that seem like a loving God? More like the acts of tricksters.

The History of Jehovah: Secret Identity of Israel's Yahweh Revealed!

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

And........It will be the cause of our downfall.

Ditto! Brilliant,

and while the Fear Porn and Violent Womb Hate Porn and all the other types of Kill Souls Porn is ate up,

what Really matters is What we do In this life, our families, our neighbors, our community and our world,

so much time spent on 'worshiping' things we can't see

while we neglect, harm, do evil, bash, rape and kill

those people we Can see.

When do we focus on Caring for our OWN species, Humans?

Thanks...I looked at it. I actually have seen this before. I believe a lot of comes from babylonian mystic sources. Which came from the watchers previously. Makes it hard to search and discern truth.

Here's what I believe. El Shaddai, Adoni, YHVH are all one and the same. Because the almighty is so profound and unable to be understood, there is no name that humanity can utter that could do Him justice. Yeshua was indeed of the "God" of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; of the I am that I am. It's why Yeshua Himself was the great I am.

my cat won't leave me alone, so I may have to finish this post another time.

YHVH ~ *the* Creator
Proverbs 30: 4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands?
Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and the name of his son?
Tell me if you know!
5 "Every word of God is flawless;
he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
6 Do not add to his words,
or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

Fire, which corresponds to Yod, the first letter of the tetragrammaton, also corresponds to the soul of humanity, the element of spirituality which resides within us. This element motivates us to strive for exalted degrees of consciousness and action, and it motivates us to become close to the Divine.

Positively, the qualities of Fire manifest as will, inspiration, nobility of deeds, and the motivation and power to achieve honor, prestige, dominion and leadership. Negatively, these last qualities become pride, egotism, despotism, and tyranny, as opposed to deserved authority. In a literal sense, Fire is the provider of warmth and light, but uncontrolled is the most destructive of the elements.

Water corresponds to Heh, the second letter of the Tetragrammaton, and corresponds to the desires of humanity, the passions which shape and direct the will towards specific ends and goals. This concept is most obviously manifest as human emotions. Alone, the element of water is barren; life did not manifest in seawater without the catalysts of heat and light, which are the qualifies of the element of Fire.

Obversely, when brought to bear on the element of Fire, Water becomes very powerful and important. Fire, in and of itself, is very chaotic and amorphous, It is the qualities of Water that make it possible to contain and control fFire. Without these “watery” qualities, Fire would run rampant in a destructive rage and then burn itself out. It is Desire (water) which shapes, sustains, and directs the Will (Fire) towards practical ends. Thus, Fire and Water are interdependent for any creative act. This fact is the basis of their relationship to the Tetragrammaton.

Air corresponds to Vav, the third letter of the Tetragrammaton, and also to human intellect. The powers of analysis and synthesis, which constitute the intellect, are the abilities to break down a subject into its basic component in order to understand its structure and purpose, and then to reconstruct these components into something new, and better. Thus, Air represents the qualities of reason and rationality.

Positively, these are directed towards constructive applications and new inventions. But devoide of the creative guidance of the qualities of Fire andWater, intellect, as the power of division, becomes a very destructive force. It has been seen that devoid of higher ideals, science, laws, and politics become – at best – sterile of any worth or meaning. Unfortunately, the worst is more often manifest as war, pollution, infringement of basic human rights, and weapons technology that has advanced far beyond our ability to rationally control, much less use.

Earth, the final Heh of the Tetragrammaton, manifests in humanity as the physical body, as well as that which is needed to sustain the body, such as food and shelter. Earth is also the literal earth, the soil in which our food grows, as well as the globe which is the home and environment of the human community.

Like Water, Philosophic Earth is barren and sterile in and of itself. Its value is completely dependent on how it expresses and is influenced by *higher* elelments. I.e., the actions of the human body can only be judged and evaluated according to how well they express or effect the spiritual will (Fire), the passions (Water) and or the intellect (Air).

YHVH, most often pronounced as Yahweh is the English transliteration of the Tetragrammaton. It’s in the old Testament 6,823 times. Why don’t’ we see it? Because the English translators replaced the Most High’s name with God, Lord or Jehovah, or a number of other names.

My Savior’s given Hebrew name is Yeshua. The angel of YHVH told Joseph to give Mary’s baby a name that meant “he [YHVH] shall save his people” (Matt. 1:21). “He saves” is precisely what Yeshua means. Strong’s concordance tells us that Yeshua means “to save”. Yehoshua is a combination of Yahweh and yasha. Yeshua, the contraction of Yehoshua, means “He [Yahweh] saves.”

He Son inherited an excellent name from His Father: “Let them praise the name of YHVH, for his name alone is excellent.” Ps: 148:13

He {Yeshuah} hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name (Hebrews 1:4) The Son could only inherit from His Father what His Father Himself possessed.

YHVH is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation {Yeshua}; he is my God (Ex. 15:2)

If YHVH’s Hebrew name had been left intact in the Bible, it would be much more difficult to deny the deity of Yeshua, and of YHVH Himself.

Yeshua ~ by, in and through His NAME ~ does not describe what some man, prophet, or another god is doing. His Name expresses what YHVH *THE* GOD of gods, the great I AM, Immanuel, God with us ~ is doing !!

Last Edited by If You Only Knew on 10/02/2010 03:31 PM

Agreed.

Bad example to use as the basis for your argument, Shamar. As I said in the other thread:

For the record:

Bayside is not only NOT an approved site, the Catholic Church has warned Catholics to stay away from it because it is dangerous to the faith.

Your point is moot, 621. You are saying no more than the Catholic Church does.

Mary Ellen

Fair enough....Then i would state that the 'great warning" is the 3d secret of fatima. Which is basically the same thing as this site is promoting.

You said it, the "hosts of heaven". Thats exactly where that book is from.

i was into it until you started selling candles and such. It is obvious that the blood of Christ shead for our sins as the bible says is not enough, according to you we need to wear special color cloths and have prayer beads. Not sure where is says that int he bible, oh yeah it doesnt. You have drank the cool aid of the Catholic church, the church that changed the rules of God.

Why statues, why graven images, why no marriage for church leaders, why are leaders not above reproach, why change the 10 commandments, why call priest father, why why why why why why.

The gosple of salvation is simple you have made it complex.

You hit the nail on the head.

Jesus was invented to become a blockade to God...while the original message of Yahshua/Yeshua is that he was a bridge. Not pulling us up by our hair, but lifting us from under our feet.

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"The Way to The Father is through The Son." ~ Yahshua

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Light." ~ Yahshua

There is absolutely no place in the Scriptures that instruct us to go through Mary. The Scriptures tell us "to honor Mary" ... that is all.



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Sorry, but you are wrong again, Shamar. Fatima never mentions the great warning.

Mary Ellen

are you sure about that? It's a warning, and it sounds pretty great to me. so what IS this mystical great warning then? care to share?

I already did on the "Obama is a Catholic?" thread.

And, yes, I am sure about that; there is nothing in the Fatima messages relating to the Warning Mary/929 posts about.

Yes, Fatima contains three secrets, all of which might be considered warnings:

1. about Hell and the need not to go there, which I doubt any here would disagree with

2. about the end of World War I and the start of World War II, both of which came to pass

3. about the future suffering of the Catholic Church

To be honest, I view the anti-Catholic frenzy on this thread as part of the fulfillment of the third secret.

Mary Ellen

I understand your meaning but Jesus told us the Our Father prayer and not to be like the others who say repetitive prayers thinking that God will pay more attention,....i was there, i was born to a catholic family and i prayed the rosary every day when i was a kid....I still believe in Mary and the Grace she was granted among all women....but i have many questions about the "aparations" around the world.

the future suffering of the catholic church will occur when the AC devours her after she has helped usher him in. When the marian apparition next occurs, will be the beginning of the end of the RCC.

Should read - "All religion was invented as a 'blockade' to 'your' god". God is not 'singular', but 'plural' as in multiple gods, if this is what you want to call your "soul", the source of where your spirit stream comes from...

you are absolutely correct......the *great warning* is

you need to scroll up a few posts and read who Yeshua is, and what His name means.

Seek meekness and wisdom....and praise YHWH, our Father.

The only way to salvation is Yeshua Messiah (Jesus Christ).

Humble yourselves and call on Him. The Harvest approaches.


Are you of the wheat, or are you of the tares?

I thought i would bring Mary Ellen's response over to this thread since it is of the topic:


I am curious though, what are YOUR thoughts on the coming "great warning" ?
Quoting: Shamar


I just mentioned to Mary that I'd be happy to talk about it, but with the proviso that others understand the Warning is not Church teaching. Because the Catholic Church says little on endtimes (but enough for us to be secure about the "four last things"), we are fairly free to speculate as long as we don't deny her basic teachings on those 4 things (death, judgment, heaven, hell).

When I said earlier that there are some areas I may be in disagreement with the Church I meant these 3 last things. It's not so much I am in disagreement, but that many things I believe simply haven't been examined as yet by the Church, so I can't be sure I an in alignment with her teachings there.

Because there are many Protestant converts like Dr, Scott Hahn (and reverts like me who delved into the topics during our time away) interested in these things, more of us are talking about it now.

I believe the Warning (also called the Illumination of Souls) will be an act of Mercy by the Father just before the culmination of the Church age. Protestant believers would cite the scriptures referring to the Father never doing anything without first forewarning His people, as with the flood and Babylonian captivity; that He will "warn" us in some way when the times prophesied are upon us.

Several Catholic mystics have also prophecised this will happen. They do not give great detail and we are not required to believe that what they say will come to pass, though we are allowed to take hope from the visions approved by the Church since they cannot harm our faith.

St. Faustina, a Polish nun in the early 20th century, had visions of Jesus which focused completely on the Mercy of Christ. He gave her a prayer called the Chaplet of Divine Mercy, which I pray at least once a day. Millions of Catholics now pray it daily, and I believe it very may well be because we are approaching the promised Day and He desires us to ask the Father's Mercy constantly in the light of what is approaching us. Mercy will very much be needed.

She wrote a Diary when ordered to by her superiors, recording these visions. This portion refers to what Mary calls the Warning:

Before I come as the just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy. Before the day of justice arrives, there will be given to people a sign in the heavens of this sort:

All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and the feet of the Savior were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day. —Diary of Divine Mercy, n. 83

Many believe that, at that time, the world will have the same experience St. Faustina did:

Suddenly I saw the complete condition of my soul as God sees it. I could clearly see all that is displeasing to God. I did not know that even the smallest transgressions will have to be accounted for. What a moment! Who can describe it? To stand before the Thrice-Holy-God! —St. Faustina; Divine Mercy in My Soul, Diary

There are a number of other visionaries who had visions of the same sort, so there is a general belief among Catholics that a day of Mercy is coming when the Father will give the generation alive at His coming a chance to repent before world judgment.

I have to re-emphasize, the Catholic Church does NOT teach this as doctrine.

But, because St. Faustina never contradicted actual Church teachings in anything she ever said or wrote, we are free to accept her words with hope for God's Mercy as she claims.

Same for other approved visions. And there are quite a few I follow regularly, to see what people are saying and thinking about them, even the unapproved one, which I take with a grain of salt.

I will just follow that comment up with, there is absolutely nothing scriptural to support that belief at all. In fact, we are told the exact opposite.....When Yeshua returns, it will be with the blow of a shofar, and with lighting from east to west.....then He will come.

He specifically said, do NOT believe in any other sayings or claims.

We were warned of false prophets in the end times. It is clearly in everyone's Bibles. But this warning is ignored. These guys are really into fear porn. Got to have the drama.

The RCC has warned of this sort of thing for years. But the rabid catholics ignore mother church. Just another form of cafeteria catholicism.