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Scrump's Newsletter 10/2010 *Total Economic Collapse: Showtime*

 
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Well, like I wrote, it is easy to slat reporting.
On a personal level, recently I was thinking of scrumps past posts (many of them predict economic doom) and I thought how embarrassing for him to go through all that work and to have none of it come to fruition.


That's being a bit unfair don't ya think? Thing is scrubby doesn't actually predict anything, just a c&p rehash of blogs and articles already copyrighted somewhere else.

Now if he'd actually use the info and present a timetable, even go out on a limb, then he'd have something worthy of a "newsletter" lol.

But like most doomtards scrambling for attention, the missing piece of the puzzle is WHEN, timing is everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104786



I do not think it is unfair, as his reporting represents only one side of the story.

In addition, there is the phantom idea of a 'New World Order' idea being promoted. Could there be paranoia here?
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That's being a bit unfair don't ya think? Thing is scrubby doesn't actually predict anything, just a c&p rehash of blogs and articles already copyrighted somewhere else.

Now if he'd actually use the info and present a timetable, even go out on a limb, then he'd have something worthy of a "newsletter" lol.

But like most doomtards scrambling for attention, the missing piece of the puzzle is WHEN, timing is everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104786


What would you like for me to do, AC?

Make up your mind for you?

I present information & opinion WITHOUT setting a 'doom date' intentionally.

Why?

Because I'm not a Prophet you retard... and I expect people to be able to take what I collate & THINK FOR THEMSELVES... and decide what to do (if anything) about it.

Get it?

You've not been on many Newsletter mailing lists, apparently... you keep squawking about Copy/Pasting of articles.

You've also never been to Infowars, MSN, or on the Internet either... you seem to require only originally authored material in your reading.

Try here: [link to www.amazon.com]
I am a Christian.

Christian does not equal doormat or pushover.

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That's being a bit unfair don't ya think? Thing is scrubby doesn't actually predict anything, just a c&p rehash of blogs and articles already copyrighted somewhere else.

Now if he'd actually use the info and present a timetable, even go out on a limb, then he'd have something worthy of a "newsletter" lol.

But like most doomtards scrambling for attention, the missing piece of the puzzle is WHEN, timing is everything.


What would you like for me to do, AC?

Make up your mind for you?

I present information & opinion WITHOUT setting a 'doom date' intentionally.

Why?

Because I'm not a Prophet you retard... and I expect people to be able to take what I collate & THINK FOR THEMSELVES... and decide what to do (if anything) about it.

Get it?

You've not been on many Newsletter mailing lists, apparently... you keep squawking about Copy/Pasting of articles.

You've also never been to Infowars, MSN, or on the Internet either... you seem to require only originally authored material in your reading.

Try here: [link to www.amazon.com]
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Stooping to calling someone a retard is not a meritorious approach.
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well its economic crap which bores about everyone so at least its economic crap that has like a bang at the end

but all in all aliens attacking and replacing brains and stuff is more fun

i suggest the next newsletter has like death rays and stuff to make it more fun

or how about qll the gold collecters meet jesus and he says
"didn't you read the king midas story? didn't i say give unto Ceaser..ah #%$^*$(&() it - i'm jesus so its cool
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Stooping to calling someone a retard is not a meritorious approach.
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True.

But it was accurate.
I am a Christian.

Christian does not equal doormat or pushover.

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Great Post and 5 stars; I think we will see the collapse sooner than later, especially since so many people are starting to go after these bankers. Very scary times we live in; the greed is at the highest levels I have ever seen and it is only going to get worse.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison

"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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That's being a bit unfair don't ya think? Thing is scrubby doesn't actually predict anything, just a c&p rehash of blogs and articles already copyrighted somewhere else.

Now if he'd actually use the info and present a timetable, even go out on a limb, then he'd have something worthy of a "newsletter" lol.

But like most doomtards scrambling for attention, the missing piece of the puzzle is WHEN, timing is everything.


What would you like for me to do, AC?

Make up your mind for you?

I present information & opinion WITHOUT setting a 'doom date' intentionally.

Why?

Because I'm not a Prophet you retard... and I expect people to be able to take what I collate & THINK FOR THEMSELVES... and decide what to do (if anything) about it.

Get it?

You've not been on many Newsletter mailing lists, apparently... you keep squawking about Copy/Pasting of articles.

You've also never been to Infowars, MSN, or on the Internet either... you seem to require only originally authored material in your reading.

Try here: [link to www.amazon.com]
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Come up with the real goods and I'll be impressed.
Like I said..........timing.
And if infowars and msn are the models no wonder the bar is so low.

But hey, don't get yourself all riled up.
Don't tell me you're not getting enough love, here?

Yup, nice little newsletter you got there. Had something like it in 10th grade, think it was the debate club newsleter IIRC.
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HEY yall need to leave scrump alone!!

I would wager the VAST majority of people do not keep up with Financial news nor understand an impending threat!!

at least he is doing something to HELP!

Who cares Where he got his info?? He is at least trying.
Which is more than I can say for 99 percent of people.
rant
1:1.618 ratio
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but if that is the case then things need to be simplified

no way someone not interested or in the know about economics is gonna be able to wade through let alone interpret the info

better would be something like

"housing is not selling and since for most their house is their main investement it means that the old ways are being replaced"

that was crap

but you get the idea

Simplify

and then instead of a link and a vid - a sentence from either - or his own vid


the evidence is clear
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That's being a bit unfair don't ya think? Thing is scrubby doesn't actually predict anything, just a c&p rehash of blogs and articles already copyrighted somewhere else.

Now if he'd actually use the info and present a timetable, even go out on a limb, then he'd have something worthy of a "newsletter" lol.

But like most doomtards scrambling for attention, the missing piece of the puzzle is WHEN, timing is everything.


What would you like for me to do, AC?

Make up your mind for you?

I present information & opinion WITHOUT setting a 'doom date' intentionally.

Why?

Because I'm not a Prophet you retard... and I expect people to be able to take what I collate & THINK FOR THEMSELVES... and decide what to do (if anything) about it.

Get it?

You've not been on many Newsletter mailing lists, apparently... you keep squawking about Copy/Pasting of articles.

You've also never been to Infowars, MSN, or on the Internet either... you seem to require only originally authored material in your reading.

Try here: [link to www.amazon.com]


Come up with the real goods and I'll be impressed.
Like I said..........timing.
And if infowars and msn are the models no wonder the bar is so low.

But hey, don't get yourself all riled up.
Don't tell me you're not getting enough love, here?

Yup, nice little newsletter you got there. Had something like it in 10th grade, think it was the debate club newsleter IIRC.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104786



What kind of "real" goods are you referring to? Much of the evidence of what is to come is set out right in front of you. If you have some real good sources of information that supercede this then please share with us.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison

"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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Come up with the real goods and I'll be impressed.
Like I said..........timing.
And if infowars and msn are the models no wonder the bar is so low.

But hey, don't get yourself all riled up.
Don't tell me you're not getting enough love, here?

Yup, nice little newsletter you got there. Had something like it in 10th grade, think it was the debate club newsleter IIRC.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104786



Now you two have to stop the childish behavior.

I do have to agree that if one wants to be taken seriously, quoting Alex Jones is probably not a good idea. Why not include David dIcke or Nancy Leider?
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Come up with the real goods and I'll be impressed.
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I've got to step out for a coupla hours & get some work done, but I just had to log back in for just a sec to say:

norespect

I care what you think... Why?
I am a Christian.

Christian does not equal doormat or pushover.

SickOfItAll

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That's being a bit unfair don't ya think? Thing is scrubby doesn't actually predict anything, just a c&p rehash of blogs and articles already copyrighted somewhere else.

Now if he'd actually use the info and present a timetable, even go out on a limb, then he'd have something worthy of a "newsletter" lol.

But like most doomtards scrambling for attention, the missing piece of the puzzle is WHEN, timing is everything.


What would you like for me to do, AC?

Make up your mind for you?

I present information & opinion WITHOUT setting a 'doom date' intentionally.

Why?

Because I'm not a Prophet you retard... and I expect people to be able to take what I collate & THINK FOR THEMSELVES... and decide what to do (if anything) about it.

Get it?

You've not been on many Newsletter mailing lists, apparently... you keep squawking about Copy/Pasting of articles.

You've also never been to Infowars, MSN, or on the Internet either... you seem to require only originally authored material in your reading.

Try here: [link to www.amazon.com]


Come up with the real goods and I'll be impressed.
Like I said..........timing.
And if infowars and msn are the models no wonder the bar is so low.

But hey, don't get yourself all riled up.
Don't tell me you're not getting enough love, here?

Yup, nice little newsletter you got there. Had something like it in 10th grade, think it was the debate club newsleter IIRC.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104786

Nice post......hey wait your home just got foreclosed and you lost your job and you were denied un-employment but you helped work on all this and realllly told scrump off
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I do have to agree that if one wants to be taken seriously, quoting Alex Jones is probably not a good idea. Why not include David dIcke or Nancy Leider?
 Quoting: I-call-M-as-I-c-M


I included or quoted none of those.

Infowars & MSM were presented to the AC (the retard) as general and random examples of Internet sites.

Call it helping the handicapped.


Back later!
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HEY yall need to leave scrump alone!!

I would wager the VAST majority of people do not keep up with Financial news nor understand an impending threat!!

at least he is doing something to HELP!

Who cares Where he got his info?? He is at least trying.
Which is more than I can say for 99 percent of people.
rant
 Quoting: Edmond Dantes


It is fair to say that his research contributes a starting point for a constructive dialog regarding the economy. Opposing viewpoints should be welcome. Economics are confusing and the news surrounding economics is really confusing. It is like a wild roller coaster ride. From what I can see where I live, in Silverdale WA, there is no crisis and was no crisis. The economy is strong here.
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Dow to the moon!
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HEY yall need to leave scrump alone!!

I would wager the VAST majority of people do not keep up with Financial news nor understand an impending threat!!

at least he is doing something to HELP!

Who cares Where he got his info?? He is at least trying.
Which is more than I can say for 99 percent of people.
rant


It is fair to say that his research contributes a starting point for a constructive dialog regarding the economy. Opposing viewpoints should be welcome. Economics are confusing and the news surrounding economics is really confusing. It is like a wild roller coaster ride. From what I can see where I live, in Silverdale WA, there is no crisis and was no crisis. The economy is strong here.
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Agreed .....finally.......I,ve watched this whole thread, The 20 somethings pick on the messenger and not the message. It does not say very much for the future
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What you need to understand is that the derivatives market, estimated at $1,600,000,000,000,000 (in 2008), is a Straw Man. The whole financial system is gamed.

The derivatives situation has been used like the wallet in a Pigeon Drop confidence scam. The flash roll, used to gain the confidence of the mark, doesn't even have a few real bucks in it. Derivatives aren't worth more than the paper and ink that they arise from.

Straw Man.
A weapon used in threat-mode, as in "...if we don't bailout The Banks, and AIG (used as whipping boy in the scam), then America Will Fail....

Bush II could've just declared a moratorium on settlement and done arbitrattion to settle matters, but TPTB wanted the last dime in the American and Global Pocket...

Realize that neither party in a derivative puts up:
-Money
-Asset
-Property
-Service
Therefore, a valid contract (quid pro quo) does not exist.
Derivatives are the perfect weapon of destruction, since they cost only laser ink, attorney's time drafting the fraud, salesman commission, and paper. Atomics cannot destroy what these have, and they leave all that nasty fallout...


We have been chumped by our Governments world-wide as these men serve those who seek all control, money and power.

All has been done has basis in fraud and betrayal of fiduciary duty. Robespierre and his rabble were incorrect to extract the price they sought from French Aristocracy, yet because Government is no longer a monarch, what the French Revolutionaries sought to assure their reform must transpire again; under more civilized terms, but largely to same effect.

TPTB understand that they must exit the world stage by removing all audit trail and evidence. War and terror bombings removing the audit trails will occur to assure and secure the fruit of their conspiracy, looting, and massive and consolidated theft.

RICO actions underway against major banks in the news this week. Currency wars in the news. Gold and Silver beginning to show the real volatility of the situation.

About all you can do is to protect your family at all times; "get out of the line of fire", enable all self-sufficiency modes you can, and own firearms for protection and know how to use them.
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Nice post......hey wait your home just got foreclosed and you lost your job and you were denied un-employment but you helped work on all this and realllly told scrump off
 Quoting: I Do Know It All


Those are your words and that might be something you are familiar with. If it is, then nothing written here will come as something new.

I can assure you, your post doesn't apply to my situation. I saw all of this coming by 2005 and made adjustments accordingly.

As far as telling 'ol scrumpy off, c'mon if the guy weren't so puffed up with himself he'd get less flack, but I'm sure he can take it, lol.
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That's being a bit unfair don't ya think? Thing is scrubby doesn't actually predict anything, just a c&p rehash of blogs and articles already copyrighted somewhere else.

Now if he'd actually use the info and present a timetable, even go out on a limb, then he'd have something worthy of a "newsletter" lol.

But like most doomtards scrambling for attention, the missing piece of the puzzle is WHEN, timing is everything.


What would you like for me to do, AC?

Make up your mind for you?

I present information & opinion WITHOUT setting a 'doom date' intentionally.

Why?

Because I'm not a Prophet you retard... and I expect people to be able to take what I collate & THINK FOR THEMSELVES... and decide what to do (if anything) about it.

Get it?

You've not been on many Newsletter mailing lists, apparently... you keep squawking about Copy/Pasting of articles.

You've also never been to Infowars, MSN, or on the Internet either... you seem to require only originally authored material in your reading.

Try here: [link to www.amazon.com]
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

clappa
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Changing views from a micro to a macro, allows you to see how the many facets that play towards the one objective. I opted out of the rose colored glasses, but it seems to still be a popular choice by many.
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What you need to understand is that the derivatives market, estimated at $1,600,000,000,000,000 (in 2008), is a Straw Man. The whole financial system is gamed.

The derivatives situation has been used like the wallet in a Pigeon Drop confidence scam. The flash roll, used to gain the confidence of the mark, doesn't even have a few real bucks in it. Derivatives aren't worth more than the paper and ink that they arise from.

Straw Man.
A weapon used in threat-mode, as in "...if we don't bailout The Banks, and AIG (used as whipping boy in the scam), then America Will Fail....

Bush II could've just declared a moratorium on settlement and done arbitrattion to settle matters, but TPTB wanted the last dime in the American and Global Pocket...

Realize that neither party in a derivative puts up:
-Money
-Asset
-Property
-Service
Therefore, a valid contract (quid pro quo) does not exist.
Derivatives are the perfect weapon of destruction, since they cost only laser ink, attorney's time drafting the fraud, salesman commission, and paper. Atomics cannot destroy what these have, and they leave all that nasty fallout...


We have been chumped by our Governments world-wide as these men serve those who seek all control, money and power.

All has been done has basis in fraud and betrayal of fiduciary duty. Robespierre and his rabble were incorrect to extract the price they sought from French Aristocracy, yet because Government is no longer a monarch, what the French Revolutionaries sought to assure their reform must transpire again; under more civilized terms, but largely to same effect.

TPTB understand that they must exit the world stage by removing all audit trail and evidence. War and terror bombings removing the audit trails will occur to assure and secure the fruit of their conspiracy, looting, and massive and consolidated theft.

RICO actions underway against major banks in the news this week. Currency wars in the news. Gold and Silver beginning to show the real volatility of the situation.

About all you can do is to protect your family at all times; "get out of the line of fire", enable all self-sufficiency modes you can, and own firearms for protection and know how to use them.
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Nice blend of understanding mixed with conspiracy.


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Thanks Scrump!!!

Great newsletter as always! I appreciate your efforts.

cheers
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What you need to understand is that the derivatives market, estimated at $1,600,000,000,000,000 (in 2008), is a Straw Man. The whole financial system is gamed.

The derivatives situation has been used like the wallet in a Pigeon Drop confidence scam. The flash roll, used to gain the confidence of the mark, doesn't even have a few real bucks in it. Derivatives aren't worth more than the paper and ink that they arise from.

Straw Man.
A weapon used in threat-mode, as in "...if we don't bailout The Banks, and AIG (used as whipping boy in the scam), then America Will Fail....

Bush II could've just declared a moratorium on settlement and done arbitrattion to settle matters, but TPTB wanted the last dime in the American and Global Pocket...

Realize that neither party in a derivative puts up:
-Money
-Asset
-Property
-Service
Therefore, a valid contract (quid pro quo) does not exist.
Derivatives are the perfect weapon of destruction, since they cost only laser ink, attorney's time drafting the fraud, salesman commission, and paper. Atomics cannot destroy what these have, and they leave all that nasty fallout...


We have been chumped by our Governments world-wide as these men serve those who seek all control, money and power.

All has been done has basis in fraud and betrayal of fiduciary duty. Robespierre and his rabble were incorrect to extract the price they sought from French Aristocracy, yet because Government is no longer a monarch, what the French Revolutionaries sought to assure their reform must transpire again; under more civilized terms, but largely to same effect.

TPTB understand that they must exit the world stage by removing all audit trail and evidence. War and terror bombings removing the audit trails will occur to assure and secure the fruit of their conspiracy, looting, and massive and consolidated theft.

RICO actions underway against major banks in the news this week. Currency wars in the news. Gold and Silver beginning to show the real volatility of the situation.

About all you can do is to protect your family at all times; "get out of the line of fire", enable all self-sufficiency modes you can, and own firearms for protection and know how to use them.
 Quoting: Lester



+1
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison

"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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at the core of the issue

the Bible talks about all of this

it is happening

Noah built the Ark

no one cared until it started raining
Chill - Enjoy - Relax
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What you need to understand is that the derivatives market, estimated at $1,600,000,000,000,000 (in 2008), is a Straw Man. The whole financial system is gamed.

The derivatives situation has been used like the wallet in a Pigeon Drop confidence scam. The flash roll, used to gain the confidence of the mark, doesn't even have a few real bucks in it. Derivatives aren't worth more than the paper and ink that they arise from.

Straw Man.
A weapon used in threat-mode, as in "...if we don't bailout The Banks, and AIG (used as whipping boy in the scam), then America Will Fail....

Bush II could've just declared a moratorium on settlement and done arbitrattion to settle matters, but TPTB wanted the last dime in the American and Global Pocket...

Realize that neither party in a derivative puts up:
-Money
-Asset
-Property
-Service
Therefore, a valid contract (quid pro quo) does not exist.
Derivatives are the perfect weapon of destruction, since they cost only laser ink, attorney's time drafting the fraud, salesman commission, and paper. Atomics cannot destroy what these have, and they leave all that nasty fallout...


We have been chumped by our Governments world-wide as these men serve those who seek all control, money and power.

All has been done has basis in fraud and betrayal of fiduciary duty. Robespierre and his rabble were incorrect to extract the price they sought from French Aristocracy, yet because Government is no longer a monarch, what the French Revolutionaries sought to assure their reform must transpire again; under more civilized terms, but largely to same effect.

TPTB understand that they must exit the world stage by removing all audit trail and evidence. War and terror bombings removing the audit trails will occur to assure and secure the fruit of their conspiracy, looting, and massive and consolidated theft.

RICO actions underway against major banks in the news this week. Currency wars in the news. Gold and Silver beginning to show the real volatility of the situation.

About all you can do is to protect your family at all times; "get out of the line of fire", enable all self-sufficiency modes you can, and own firearms for protection and know how to use them.



Nice blend of understanding mixed with conspiracy.

 Quoting: I-call-M-as-I-c-M



Virtually every business situation where two or more employees interact with a customer could be called a "conspiracy". The British are fond of calling any plan or strategy a "scheme". The word has different connotations, evoking a scam of some sort to the average American, but our cousins do enjoy a good joke.

There is no other conclusion you can arrive than America Has Been Betrayed at if you evaluate the efforts of government, education, and the professions; as well as union leaders since post WW-II. Goes back to pre-Civil War planning and strategy with refinements on Hamilton manifested in The Federal Reserve Act and everything from the 14th Amendment forward.

John Dewey's educational idealism is born of Marxism
All the UCC and Legal revisionism done to abrogate all freedoms won under Common Law and the Magna Carta. The disavowal of the Declarations of Independence's "self-evident Truths", the bum's rush given to God and Christianity, the deliberate destruction of money and savings....

Interested to have read back here to page 8?
Then you know enough to be dangerous.

NAFTA, GATT, WTO, World Court and United Nations treaties and other sovereign surrenders (all null & void as un-Constitutional) but try and enforce a return to Constitutional Precepts by rule of law in our present government situation. No separation or checks & balances anymore...

None of this was done by accident.
The Betrayal was authored and carried out by our finest minds, Harvard, Yale, Wharton School, Stanford, Rice...

The one thing anyone who cares about a business or any enterprise is "Don't Kill The Goose That Lays Your Golden Eggs". Yet our Congress actually paid corporations cash money to locate abroad. Fruit Of The Loom received $10,000 for EACH job they relocated to Dominican Republic under The Caribbean Basin Initiative.

An Boston Univ economist recently published an article in which he states that by adding in "unfunded government mandates" to the Federal Deficit, that the total is not $14 Trillion, but $204 Trillion...

America couldn't have been Betrayed in every possible way at every possible level simply by accident or happenstance...
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at the core of the issue

the Bible talks about all of this

it is happening

Noah built the Ark

no one cared until it started raining
 Quoting: Ice



Very true; trying to get that across to a lot of the paid shills that troll these threads is another thing. I really do not think they care as they have already sold their souls just to make a buck refuting hard evidence.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison

"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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What you need to understand is that the derivatives market, estimated at $1,600,000,000,000,000 (in 2008), is a Straw Man. The whole financial system is gamed.

The derivatives situation has been used like the wallet in a Pigeon Drop confidence scam. The flash roll, used to gain the confidence of the mark, doesn't even have a few real bucks in it. Derivatives aren't worth more than the paper and ink that they arise from.

Straw Man.
A weapon used in threat-mode, as in "...if we don't bailout The Banks, and AIG (used as whipping boy in the scam), then America Will Fail....

Bush II could've just declared a moratorium on settlement and done arbitrattion to settle matters, but TPTB wanted the last dime in the American and Global Pocket...

Realize that neither party in a derivative puts up:
-Money
-Asset
-Property
-Service
Therefore, a valid contract (quid pro quo) does not exist.
Derivatives are the perfect weapon of destruction, since they cost only laser ink, attorney's time drafting the fraud, salesman commission, and paper. Atomics cannot destroy what these have, and they leave all that nasty fallout...


We have been chumped by our Governments world-wide as these men serve those who seek all control, money and power.

All has been done has basis in fraud and betrayal of fiduciary duty. Robespierre and his rabble were incorrect to extract the price they sought from French Aristocracy, yet because Government is no longer a monarch, what the French Revolutionaries sought to assure their reform must transpire again; under more civilized terms, but largely to same effect.

TPTB understand that they must exit the world stage by removing all audit trail and evidence. War and terror bombings removing the audit trails will occur to assure and secure the fruit of their conspiracy, looting, and massive and consolidated theft.

RICO actions underway against major banks in the news this week. Currency wars in the news. Gold and Silver beginning to show the real volatility of the situation.

About all you can do is to protect your family at all times; "get out of the line of fire", enable all self-sufficiency modes you can, and own firearms for protection and know how to use them.



Nice blend of understanding mixed with conspiracy.




Virtually every business situation where two or more employees interact with a customer could be called a "conspiracy". The British are fond of calling any plan or strategy a "scheme". The word has different connotations, evoking a scam of some sort to the average American, but our cousins do enjoy a good joke.

There is no other conclusion you can arrive than America Has Been Betrayed at if you evaluate the efforts of government, education, and the professions; as well as union leaders since post WW-II. Goes back to pre-Civil War planning and strategy with refinements on Hamilton manifested in The Federal Reserve Act and everything from the 14th Amendment forward.

John Dewey's educational idealism is born of Marxism
All the UCC and Legal revisionism done to abrogate all freedoms won under Common Law and the Magna Carta. The disavowal of the Declarations of Independence's "self-evident Truths", the bum's rush given to God and Christianity, the deliberate destruction of money and savings....

Interested to have read back here to page 8?
Then you know enough to be dangerous.

NAFTA, GATT, WTO, World Court and United Nations treaties and other sovereign surrenders (all null & void as un-Constitutional) but try and enforce a return to Constitutional Precepts by rule of law in our present government situation. No separation or checks & balances anymore...

None of this was done by accident.
The Betrayal was authored and carried out by our finest minds, Harvard, Yale, Wharton School, Stanford, Rice...

The one thing anyone who cares about a business or any enterprise is "Don't Kill The Goose That Lays Your Golden Eggs". Yet our Congress actually paid corporations cash money to locate abroad. Fruit Of The Loom received $10,000 for EACH job they relocated to Dominican Republic under The Caribbean Basin Initiative.

An Boston Univ economist recently published an article in which he states that by adding in "unfunded government mandates" to the Federal Deficit, that the total is not $14 Trillion, but $204 Trillion...

America couldn't have been Betrayed in every possible way at every possible level simply by accident or happenstance...
 Quoting: Lester



I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson, (Attributed)

Some food for thought
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison

"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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I see your fan club is here...2 one star votes faster than anyone could read the thread, lol.

lol. they're is just something about scrump and his avatar that says "christian scumbag shill". don't know what it is but its there.
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Just an irritating chump, who happens to be from Texas.

Oh, and a narrow minded smarmey retard who thinks he's smart..

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