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If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?

 
Anonymous Coward
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10/05/2010 05:02 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
First the economic collapse .. than the winter of doom.
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10/05/2010 05:04 PM
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Europe is screwed 10 ways to Sunday. Their population must be reduced by 50% before they can even attempt to be sustainable and if Russia cuts off their gas again? uhoh
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10/05/2010 05:06 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Europeans can always go to South Africa, they obviously have "friends" there. Oh, who am I kidding, Europeans go where they damn well want and take what they damn well want, don't they.



You better be a native american otherwise stfu.
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Oh well I'll just STFU then. chuckle

But if any Russian "groom" wants to marry me for a "green card" that's cool.

Or maybe they want USA mailorder brides over there?
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10/05/2010 05:14 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Russia it not affected by Gulf Stream too much. Even if Gulf Stream stops it wouldn't be a big problem.

Problem for Europe is not just a cold but the fact that infrastructure was not build for cold winters.
For example: most water pipes in England are almost on the surface (in Russia they are buried at 4-5 feet)

If cold winter really happens, and ground freezes deeper than pipes are - pipes will burst. That would be really disaster - no running water anywhere and no cheap and easy way to fix it.
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10/05/2010 05:16 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
European countries free of ice in ice ages are:

South Spain, South Italy, Greece.

Next, North Afrika, Middle East

next India, Indonesia
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10/05/2010 05:19 PM
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Hopefully Africa/China and not here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 921138


Hey, do you think we are all savages in Africa? When the doom comes ain't nobody gonna be spared.
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10/05/2010 05:24 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Another load of bollocks again. europe will not be that cold this winter, you GLP morons are so fucking thick, you believe anything your told, you fucking arsehole morons, get a life you fucking idiots god some people will believe anything their told, the wather and temps here in the uk today 5th october was 21 deg and it was very humid and we all enjoyed it so much the temps here in the uk is a seasonal normal, so stop this load of crap and pretending that things are going to get worste when its not, arseholes
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10/05/2010 05:27 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Another load of bollocks again. europe will not be that cold this winter, you GLP morons are so fucking thick, you believe anything your told, you fucking arsehole morons, get a life you fucking idiots god some people will believe anything their told, the wather and temps here in the uk today 5th october was 21 deg and it was very humid and we all enjoyed it so much the temps here in the uk is a seasonal normal, so stop this load of crap and pretending that things are going to get worste when its not, arseholes
 Quoting: DELLBOY



Excuse me butthole, but does your keyboard have a . key? CAN YOU PLEASE USE IT YOU TWATWAFFLE! hf
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10/05/2010 05:34 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
SO....if Russia is going to freeze over colder than it has been in 1,000 years, and if Europe endures temperatures much colder than any recent winters...will their people flee? Will they try and fight through it? If their winter is going to be significantly colder...like 20-30 degrees colder...many will die. They can prepare but when their resources run out and they can't be rescued...there's going to be a massive kill up there.

Will these people be ushered into other countries as refugees? Will they run at the last minute? Will they bring with them money from their government to provide for them in the countries they run to?

Some interesting questions that need to be addressed.
 Quoting: nonrof1



What about the animals or don't we care about them either.

We could be about to experience the mass migration due to climate change in the 21st Century.

The political, economic and military ramifications could be catastrophic and the beginning future catastrophies!

Food, water, housing, the relocation of millions due to climate change was forecast and is now occuring.
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10/05/2010 06:05 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
What about the animals or don't we care about them either.

We could be about to experience the mass migration due to climate change in the 21st Century.

The political, economic and military ramifications could be catastrophic and the beginning future catastrophies!

Food, water, housing, the relocation of millions due to climate change was forecast and is now occuring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1050140



Honestly, animals weren't on my agenda or thoughts. I do suppose if a full on ice age hit Europe and Russia...many species would be eliminated. Since we know that people did not cause global warming, (BP may have caused this decrease in the stream though), We still have to allow for nature to take it's course. That's exactly why we have some species today we didn't have a thousand years ago, and why there were some species a thousand years ago that we don't have now.

Truthfully...I think one of the reasons I didn't think about animals is because I've seen FAR too many committees and boards and such that are working like mad to build money and spend billions on saving the animals...while our children can't read when they hit the 5th grade, when our veterans returning from war are forced onto the streets, when our sick and hungry are not cared for because the money is being used to save the moneky's in China.

I love animals, I really do. BUT...the main focus should be on saving the people...should it not?
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10/05/2010 06:07 PM
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If the cold snap is fast, we probably won't see an animal migration. If it's slow we "might" see one...but, the changing magnetic pole shifts and everything else seem to be really effecting animals recently. I just saw a flock of geese flying north east this weekend, STRAIGHT into a lightning storm! It was really funny cause the flew that way...about an hour later they flew back! BUT...they were missing about 20 birds! Not funny hahaha, but...curious. makes you wonder what may have happened! If the birds are confused, there's no telling what the land animals may be experiencing.
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10/05/2010 06:14 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
YAY POUTINE!

Here we are used to -30C and 6 meters of snow bring it on!!!



19 feet of snow??? Seriously? What's your divorce rate like up there???
 Quoting: nonrof1

About half of America's divorce rate.

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10/05/2010 06:23 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Russia is trying to eliminate the Caucasus peoples so as to have a place for migration south. Hence, the jihad in places like Dagestan, Chechnya, and spreading into other areas of Central Asia.

Europeans will head towards Northern/Eastern Africa and the Arabian penninsula - hence, the jihad starting back up in places like Algeria, Sudan, Somalia and Yemen; and Dubai/UAE building all the islands and new residences for millions of people.
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10/05/2010 06:24 PM
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European countries free of ice in ice ages are:

South Spain, South Italy, Greece.

Next, North Afrika, Middle East

next India, Indonesia
 Quoting: Perseus -



shit!

what about Portugal?

Have a link for us?
Levski

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10/05/2010 06:27 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
I have been wondering about that as well.
Since countries like Bulgaria will be less affected by the comming Ice age(hopefully), that probably means that Norhtern European peoples will probably try and occupy our land.

If they have o choose between freezing to death and conquering Southern-European countires, they will most likely go with the latter.
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10/05/2010 06:36 PM
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the elites only need the farmers to survive, everyone else, without useful skills, is basically "a useless eater"...
 Quoting: dreadlock sasquatch


they also need cooks,drivers factory workers gardeners house boys maids sex slaves any number of usefull duties for the goim
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10/05/2010 06:40 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
If you live in the US, move to Belize. They speak English.
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10/05/2010 06:45 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Russia has a lot of forests. A lot of people probably burn wood. Europe is a different story. Too much immigration and cities built over forests. European countries are small. Russia is huge.
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10/05/2010 06:46 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
It'll be ok down here in southern Spain. We're only 9 miles of the North African coast. There's also the other med countries so I doubt you need worry about lots of northern Europeans moving to the USA.
Levski

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10/05/2010 06:48 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Ice and snow blanketing the entire northern hemisphere?
 Quoting: nonrof1


The entire northern hemisphere?
Wasn't the Balkan peninsula ice free during the last ice age?
Or is that wishful thinking

I suddenly feel compelled to research on how far south the claciers will reach. hiding
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Russia has a lot of forests. A lot of people probably burn wood. Europe is a different story. Too much immigration and cities built over forests. European countries are small. Russia is huge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879288


We don't have central heating down here, in southern Spain. We just have log fires in December, January and February. We chop our own wood and yes, there's plenty of it. It's not a concrete jungle all over Europe.
Psych

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*buying Snuggie-stocks
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Ice and snow blanketing the entire northern hemisphere?


The entire northern hemisphere?
Wasn't the Balkan peninsula ice free during the last ice age?
Or is that wishful thinking

I suddenly feel compelled to research on how far south the claciers will reach. hiding
 Quoting: Levski



Everyone should prepare, regardless of past patterns of ice and snow coverage. The key is to be prepared for as many contingenices as possible - individually and communally.
Levski

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10/05/2010 06:55 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Another load of bollocks again. europe will not be that cold this winter, you GLP morons are so fucking thick, you believe anything your told, you fucking arsehole morons, get a life you fucking idiots god some people will believe anything their told, the wather and temps here in the uk today 5th october was 21 deg and it was very humid and we all enjoyed it so much the temps here in the uk is a seasonal normal, so stop this load of crap and pretending that things are going to get worste when its not, arseholes
 Quoting: DELLBOY


What an angry Brit!

We believe it because it sounds good and makes us want to believe it.
Don't pretend thinking about it doesn't turn you on.
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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10/05/2010 06:56 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
According to the book of Revelations, every mountain and stone will be moved, dry will become wet, wet will become dry, the first shall be last, the last shall be first. The meek shall inherit the eath. I think it means that Africa will survive.
I've heard climitologists say that Canada will become like Flordia but that was long before the gulf oil spill
Levski

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10/05/2010 06:59 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
What about the animals or don't we care about them either.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1050140


Oh yes, we do.
I love having a nice pork stake with a lot of onions, while the snow is quietly falling outside.
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
Anonymous Coward
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10/05/2010 07:03 PM
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In the book of revelations, animals will trn against man. Also a small insect will kill three quarters of the population. Bible describes the insect, something about it having human looking hair? Cant recall it, will hav to look through the book of revelation later.
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In the book of revelations, animals will trn against man. Also a small insect will kill three quarters of the population. Bible describes the insect, something about it having human looking hair? Cant recall it, will hav to look through the book of revelation later.
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Justin Bieber?
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10/05/2010 07:15 PM
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
Ice and snow blanketing the entire northern hemisphere?


The entire northern hemisphere?
Wasn't the Balkan peninsula ice free during the last ice age?
Or is that wishful thinking

I suddenly feel compelled to research on how far south the claciers will reach. hiding
 Quoting: Levski



We had glaciers all the way down here in the U.S. There are build ups all over the northern states. One particular glacier, according to USGS, cut through Yosemite National Park in central California. It's what cut half dome apart from El Capitan, and moved El Cap two miles down the road. Those are two of the world's largest monoliths by the way.
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Re: If Russia And Europe Freeze Over This Winter...Where Will Their People Go? Can They Survive?
In the book of revelations, animals will trn against man. Also a small insect will kill three quarters of the population. Bible describes the insect, something about it having human looking hair? Cant recall it, will hav to look through the book of revelation later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879288



You're probably talking about the locust that are released from the pit by an angel from heaven. That is not talking about insects friend. That is talking about the fallen angels who created the nephilim race on earth. They will be released to wreak havoc on mankind. By the way, their leader, apollyon or "abaddon" will be the anti-christ. Revelation 9 I believe it is.

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