HOW TO TELL IF ALIEN DISCLOSURE IS GENUINE OR FALSE FLAG - VERY SIMPLE

Unless they are mean and our dick head leaders want a peaceful takeover.

What about nice ETs that land and then are mean and eat us all?

Yes I read over and over again they will pretend to be nice then show their real colors after people fall for it. So answer is still cannot be known OP if any of this would ever happen anyway.

that would be considered the "landing" of hostile ETs

fuckin ET's are starting to piss me off

I think I would try alien. Bears are hostile and I eat bear.

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I don't want to be eaten, can we arm the bears?

if the truth is exposed, ie: everything that governments have done to hold us back, enslave us, lie to us, world history truths revelealed, truths about the universe, where we are, who we are, love, etc - that is when you know its the real deal. if we have the truth - there is no turning back into the darkness.

*facepalm*

You got it so wrong.

Landing of benevolent ET's would be as "fake" as the hostile ones.

I'd believe in Neutral ET's, not the ones that would just come and bring Humans an utopia. That's 100% anti-evolutionary on so many ways.

it is not them that would bring the "utopia" it would be our collective selves finally knowing and seeing the truth which would bring us peace.

Good ETs will make it all seen like a revelation, in plane sight, for all to see, something that it is not possible to deny, and something that will make the deceivers mortally ashamed, falling on their knees and pouring dust on their useless heads, and doing so for a long time, and with no of retaining even a shred of their former status quo.
Anything falling shorter of the above constitutes a deception.

more...
we do not need any of their, ET, tech. for Tesla and others have already invented all the stuff you might need for centuries.

And so it is OP !

it is a very delicate situation.
benevolent ETs cant just land, straight out of left field, and start a "utopia".
they will be met with our governments and media putting their own spin on the situation, which would cause more confusion and chaos - exactly what TPTB want.

True, they must not and will not interfere in any other way as guiding and possibly facilitating our psychic passover, so to say

Fucking idiots. Things done in the dark are not are not to be trusted period and those aliens are too fucking ugly to be anything holy. Fuck out of here.

it is the governments, media, and hollywood who have given you the idea that all aliens are scary looking greys and reptiles. just try to realize who put those ideas in your head.

Whats wrong with this utopia? Why do aliens have to swoop down and save me? Why can't I do it my self? Give the fucking bears AK's for all I care.

we do not live in a utopia. we are slaves to money, corporations, religion, half truths and flat out lies. we have wars were thousands and millions are killed. people are starving, homeless, have no idea about anything. free energy tech has been hidden from us so corporations and governments can remain in full control.
just because you personally may live an abundant life does not mean we live in a utopia.

they wrote a letter to mankind .. explaining the fight to choose if you think they are evil or not.

I found this on the net somewhere. Cannot tell if it is genuine or not.But the authors wish that this be distributed .. so no copyright violence.
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HERE, FULL LETTER FROM "ETs" TO US , ASKING US :

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Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is
what you will do with this message which matters ! > Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and
experience happiness. These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have access. Your free will
depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give
and receive. Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression
makes you sure of your destiny. Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of. It is not our
responsibility to modify your future without you choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And
your answer as a ballot!

Who are we ?

Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak unanimously about the unexplained celestial events
that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one´s
beliefs, however respectable they may be.

A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new knowledge paths and are getting very
close to reality. Today, your civilization is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less
upsetting one, is notably diffused. What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible,
then realized, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will
discover the worst as well as the best.

Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some name "extra-terrestrials", even though reality
is subtler. There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the experience of certain stages of
evolution. Like in any other organized structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon the
wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you. Like most of you, we are in the
quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic
Brotherhood. Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us humanoid-shaped.

Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive it yet. We are not mere observations, we are
consciences just like you. You fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure
instruments most of the time. We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this collective decision
but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this message, you become the decision-makers ! You personally. We
have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision. Why aren’t we visible?

At certain stages of evolution, cosmic "humanities" discover new forms of science beyond the apparent control of
matter. Structured dematerialization and materialization are part of them. This is what your humanity has reached
in a few laboratories, in close collaboration with other extra-terrestrial creatures at the cost of hazardous
compromises that remain purposely hidden from you by some of your representatives.

Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by your scientific community, that you call
´UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities. Many human
beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with such ships, some of which are under occult
powers that govern you. The scarcity of your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided by the
dematerialized state of these ships. By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their existence. We fully
understand this.

The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so as to touch the soul and not to modify any
organized system. This is deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different reasons and results. For
negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy,
discretion is motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown. For us, discretion is motivated by the
respect of the human free will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach
technical and spiritual maturity on their own.

Humankind’s entrance into the family of galactic civilizations is greatly expected. We can appear in broad daylight
and help you attain this union. We haven’t done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because of
ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency of the situation did not justify it. Many of those who
study our appearances count the lights in the night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects
when it is all about conscious beings.

Who are you ?

You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have been mutually enriched by each others´
contributions. The same applies to the races at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the respect of these
roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you
substitute it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of your subtle nature. For the
powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.

You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it for its richness and beauty. Understanding the
conscience of shape makes us love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists in
becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity. To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach
are decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would reflect the image of what you are in
reality.

What is your situation? Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little incidence on your capacity
to make collective and individual decisions about your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep
psychological mechanisms. We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being becomes aware of
himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite
the numerous, brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially maintained for the profit of a
growing centralizing power. Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions.

But it is losing more and
more the control of its own fate because of the growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences
on the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly but surely losing your extraordinary
capacity to make life desirable. Your resilience will artificially decrease, independently of your own will. Such
technologies exist that affect your body as well as your mind. Such plans are on their way. This can change as long as
you keep this creative power in you, even if it cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords. This is the
reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish should a collective reaction of great
magnitude not happen. The period to come is that of rupture, whichever it may be.

But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions? Should you anticipate or undergo pain? Your history has
never ceased to be marked by encounters between peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that
were often conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others. Earth has now become a
village where everyone knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in duration
and intensity. Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential capacities, cannot exercise
them with dignity. This is the case for the biggest majority of you for reasons that are essentially geopolitical. There
are several billion of you. The education of your children and your living conditions, as well as the conditions of
numerous animals and much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your political,
financial, military and religious representatives.
Your thoughts and beliefs are modeled after partisan interests to turn you into slaves while at the same time giving
you the feeling that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality. But there is a long way
between a wish and a fact when the true rules of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the
conqueror. Biasing information is a millenary strategy for human beings. Inducting thoughts, emotions or organisms
that do not belong to you via ad hoc technologies is an even older a strategy. Wonderful opportunities of progress
stand close to big subdual and destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you can
only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of natural resources is programmed whereas no long-term
collective project has been launched. Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The
scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources which entry price will rise day after day - will bring about
fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides.

Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical
mass is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out. Human behaviors, formed from past habits and
trainings, have such an inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end. You entrust these problems to
representatives, whose conscience of common well being slowly fades away in front of corporatist interests, with
those difficulties. They are always debating on the form but rarely on the content. Just at the moment of action,
delays will accumulate to the point when you have to submit rather than choose.

This is the reason why, more than ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly impact your
survival of tomorrow. What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any civilization? Where will a
collective and unifying awareness come from, that will stop this blind rushing ahead? Tribes, populations and human
nations have always encountered and interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the
human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred. A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging.
It mixes very positive but also very negative aspects.

Who are the "third party"? There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another civilization: via its
standing representatives or directly with individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the
second way brings awareness. The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind in
slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human emotional energy. The second way was
chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this
disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power who refused
our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision. That is why today
individuals are to make this choice by themselves without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the
past to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose it now to ... you!

Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of those centralizing powers without them
being neither suspected nor accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken control.
They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient
and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are fighting this
danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to recognize the truth ! How could you
under such conditions exercise your free will when it is so much manipulated? What are you really free of?

Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with civilizations other than yours.
That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing,
they reign! They also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate mistrust
and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature. This message would be of no interest if these
manipulators´ tutorate did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not materialize in a
few years from now. Their deadlines are close and mankind will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten
cycles. To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you need at least to have enough
information that leads to the solution. As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant
races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the ally. At your current state of
psychism, it is extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be
necessary when the time has come. Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you to an
alternative. What can we offer ?

We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life, constructive interactions, the experience of fair
and fraternal relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradication of suffering, controlled exercise of individual
powers, the access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness.

We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or bring you laws that you would not have
chosen, work on your own selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit of quest to
new skies. What would we receive? Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice over the
safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy
of knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The feeling of Joy is strongly sought in the
universe for its energy is divine. What is the question we ask you


"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP?"

How to can you answer this question? The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly ask
yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a
city or in the middle of a desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER
ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself but thinking about the message. This is a
universal question and these mere few words, put in their context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let
hesitation in the way. This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to perfectly associate
your answer with the question, it is recommended that you answer right after another reading of this message. Do
not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are! The
problems that you may have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel the force that
springs up in you. You are in control of yourselves!

A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near future, in one way as in another. Your individual
decision of asking in your inner self that we show up on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and
essential to us. Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are essentially useless. A sincere
request made with your heart and your own will will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to. In your
own private polling booth of your secret will, you will determine the future.

What is the lever effect?

This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even though it might seem like a minority. It is
recommended to spread this message, in all envisageable fashions, in as many languages as possible, to those
around you, whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of the future. Do it using in a humorous tone or
derision if that can help you. You can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more comfortable
but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised your free will. Forget about the false prophets and the
beliefs that have been transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that can be asked to
you. Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well as your responsibility! Passivity only leads to the
absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something
that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This
is not a show, this is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !

Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were able to influence the thread of events
in spite of their small number. Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and influence the
future of the majority, a small number of you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face
of so much inertia and hurdles! You can ease the mankind’s birth to Brotherhood. One of your thinkers once said:
"Give me a hand-hold and I’ll raise the Earth". Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we
will be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to ... raise the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.

What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?

For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favorable decision would be the materialization of many ships, in
your sky and on Earth.

For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many certitudes and beliefs. A simple conclusive visual
contact would have huge repercussions on your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The
organization of your societies would be deeply upheaved for ever, in all fields of activity. Power would become
individual because you would see for yourself that we are living. Concretely, you would change the scale of your
values! The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single family in front of this "unknown" we
would represent! Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would indirectly force the
undesirable ones, those we name the "third party", to show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and
share the same roots: Mankind!

Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry
cannot smile, he who is fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to such a
degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an inner light. This light can be your future. Our
relationships could be progressive. Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative
appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings, collaboration in your technical and spiritual
evolution, discovery of parts of the galaxy.

Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide by yourself to cross new stages if you think
it necessary to your external and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We would
leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do. Depending upon the speed to spread the message across
the world, several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our "great appearance", if such is the
decision made by the majority of those who will have used their capacity to choose, and if this message receives the
necessary support. The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a strictly spiritual nature and your
current decision is extremely simple : we are technically equipped to materialize!

Why such a historical dilemma ?

We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the
emotion that our appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale. How could you
know whether our arrival is the consequence of your collective choice? For the simple reason that we would have
otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of existence! If we are not there yet, it is because you have
not made such a decision explicitly. Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate
choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly
offer you what you haven’t got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you?

How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre of the "third party" to better enslave you ?
Because one always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn’t the terrorism that
corrodes you a blatant example? Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul! Whatever your
choice, it would be respectable and respected! In the absence of human representatives who could potentially
seduce into error you ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your
consent. In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying to discover us does no longer prevail.
You are already in the Pandora´s box that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever your decision may be
you will have to get out of it. In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to ask your
intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your thinkers say? That is the real question!
After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable: choosing between two unknowns. Why
spread such a message among yourselves?

Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at
the scale of millenniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one
generation, if it can survive. Not choosing stands for undergoing other people’s choice. Not informing others stands
for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one’s expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up
one’s free will.

It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.

It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it
will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe. Imagine our arrival tomorrow.
Thousands of ships. A unique cultural shock in today´s mankind´s history. It will then be too late to regret about not
making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not
rush into it, but do think about it ! And decide ! The big medias will not be necessarily interested in spreading this
message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.

You are still the architects of your own fate...

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP?"

MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH AND IN SPACE

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Probably because science fiction writers have been writing about it for 150 years.

Because they are alien by nature, we cannot asume anything about them, we cannot assume they have friendly motivations, you dont travel millions of miles of space unless you want something.

Some people might respond to that statement with, well what about the human race just exploring for exploring sake, sure maybe aliens are exploring space and just stumble upon us, but you would think any civilization with that kind of tech would just watch us for a while and deduce we are not worth interacting with.

Aliens smart enough to traverse space are not going to be dumb enough to land on a planet of a civilation that has harnessed the power of the atom blindly, its far too dangerous.

I found this to be interesting.

Thread: If the dark cabal attempt anything...Father will step in...

Worth a read. I guess it could be called a warning to the Dark Cabal that they are hereby put on notice and TSHTF soon!!!

everything is gonna be fine until someone stumbles across the et's How To Cook A Human cookbook.

again, another idea pushed into the minds of people by TPTB and their hollywood controlled machine.
what is the point in holding on to these untruths? you know who gave you the idea, so why do you even consider it to be anything even worth mentioning??

I just really like The Twiligt Zone

just remember, DON'T get on any ships!!!!!!

WHat if they come down in peace and OUR government doesnt let us know and attack them anyway because the aliens want to spread peace and they have no other choice but to attack us?
Hmmmm. I dot buy the whole situation anyway.
Where ever and whenever they show themselves. Let it be. I wont give a rat ass unless im face to face with one. Thas just me. if they want to Fry a major city, then fry it. I dont live in a major city. If they want peace, then so be it, i love peace. I dont give a fuck anymore what ther world does. Ive disclosed myself from the world and i only have myself at the end of the day. I know it sounds selfish, but i have kicked myself into surviver mode seeing I got the ambulance/police called on me buy my folks because i was spreading my "opinion(truth)" and they couldnt take it and thought i was having a nervous breakdown and going insane. So the cops came in and i was already frustrated and they tazed me... i ended up going to the mergency room and stayed there for about 16 hours until the Shrink was ready to see me. They wanted to keep me there for 4 days but i went back to "normal" and stated everything was just a joke and i wasnt really serious, so they let me go. Fuck the group, fuck all these brainwashed son of a bitches, they can burn in hell for all i care. I know what the deal is and im ready for it. Its up to everyone else to get there heads out there asses and see the bigger picture. I founnd out the hard way that its not that easy to deter people from this ongoing brainwashing madness. If you try to be the nice guy and savior of your people, you get downsized, shitted on and called crazy. I see why Jesus did what he did because no one could understand where he was coming from, there for he took the agony of pain and sufferage and eventually died for the fact that he wanted man to know he would go to thr grave knowing what he knew and what he did was for the good of the people. Fuck that, im not going down like jesus. Im not gonna be tortured for being correct, imma watch these mother fuckers burn for there sins rather me dying for them. Fuck everyone honestly. Time will tell who the good guys are, until then. Im holding all my information to myself and wasiting for the moment when people REALLY wake the fuck up for real.

by holding on to that idea presented by The Twilight Zone many years ago, you continue to push doubt and confusion into the minds of people. you are helping TPTB with their goal in causing great confusion and unknowing in the hearts and minds of people.