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State of Aether in Magnetic Fields: by Albert Einstein

 
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Albert Einstein's Aether

Concerning the Investigation of the State of Aether in Magnetic Fields: by Albert Einstein

"When the electric current comes into being, it immediately sets the surrounding aether in some kind of instantaneous motion, the nature of which has still not been exactly determined. In spite of the continuation of the cause of this motion, namely the electric current, the motion ceases, but the aether remains in a potential state and produces a magnetic field. That the magnetic field is a potential state [of the aether] is shown by the [existence of a] permanent magnet, since the principle of conservation of energy excludes the possibility of a state of motion in this case. The motion of the aether, which is caused by an electric current, will continue until the acting [electro-] motive forces are compensated by the equivalent passive forces which arise from the deformation caused by the motion of the aether itself."

Einstein observes that the potential state of the Aether is shown by the existence of a permanent magnet, just as in the cathode ray tube and ferrofluid experiments above.

"The most interesting, but also the most difficult, task would be the direct experimental study of the magnetic field which arises around an electric current, because the investigation of the elastic state of the aether in this case would allow us to obtain a glimpse of the mysterious nature of the electric current. This analogy also permits us to draw definite conclusions concerning the state of the aether in the magnetic field which surrounds the electric current, provided of course the experiments mentioned above yield any result."

The "elastic state" of the Aether refers to the Aether's fluid behavior and its ability to return to a previous state without deformation. The insights into the "mysterious" nature of the electric current refers to the two different types of charges identified in the Aether Physics Model. Not only does electricity have a bipolar electrostatic charge, but it also has a bipolar electromagnetic charge. These two types of charges interact with each other in seemingly peculiar ways. Einstein could not have known it during his time, however, the two types of charges are the actual carriers of the forces quantified in his later developed, General Relativity theory.

"I believe that the quantitative researches on the absolute magnitudes of the density and the elastic force of the aether can only begin if qualitative results exist that are connected with established ideas. Let me add one more thing. If the wavelength does not turn out to be proportional to [sic], then the reason (for that) has to be looked for in the change of density of the moving aether caused by the elastic deformations; here A is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field which, of course, is proportional to the elastic forces in question that are produced."

The elastic Aether force Einstein presumes has been quantified in the Aether Physics Model as the Gforce. And, in fact, we have developed simple force laws for the electromagnetic charge, which are similar in structure to the Coulomb electrostatic force law and the Newton gravitational law. We also show that each of these force laws, including our strong force laws, directly involve the Gforce (elastic Aether force as Einstein called it). The total of all these simple and related force laws comprise the Unified Force Theory of the Aether Physics Model.
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Great post once again.

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Great post once again.

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Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein.

A is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field

Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node.

According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared.

I like the use of "manifestations" -)

So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper)

Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process...

It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field.

A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour.

A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs.

Anyway, I'm rambling...
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Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein.

You might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth
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Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein.

You might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth
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Yes, I know about that concept in your thread. The satellite systems for GPS always have to be adjusted (by the Air Force) because of that phenomenon.
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Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein.

A is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field

Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node.

According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared.

I like the use of "manifestations" -)

So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper)

Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process...

It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field.

A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour.

A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs.

Anyway, I'm rambling...
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JustaDude, I know you can explain that better...or rather, more easily to comprehend...my head just started bleeding from somewhere...getting dizzy
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Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein.

A is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field

Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node.

According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared.

I like the use of "manifestations" -)

So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper)

Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process...

It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field.

A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour.

A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs.

Anyway, I'm rambling...

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JustaDude, I know you can explain that better...or rather, more easily to comprehend...my head just started bleeding from somewhere...getting dizzy
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I know, I sideline a lot...

Just seems to me that the proposed magnetic field around a conductor experiment needs to be refined a bit. We're either looking at subatomic scale or macroscale. At subatomic scale the elasticity of a magnetic field should blur with that of the aetheric unit field. And then magnetism gets superceded by much stronger single node vortex forces.

At the macro scale, magnetic interaction at a distance interacts with the aetheric "grid" field which has different elasticity. The aether in general is soft with respect to its multinode response, but each node has its own "tenser" characteristics.

These studies of the aetheric "grid" involve imposing a geometric field upon a naturally fractal distribution. Experimental magnetic fields are usually well structured, to allow for characterisation of magnetic flux and field. The reaction from the aether is to locally align and conform with the magnetic field.

So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions...

The aether unit in itself is subordinate to ordered structures which resonate with similarly ordered external biases, so vortex shaped magnetic fields should produce more interactivity. Studying an aether field electrostatically results in geometric distortions which are created in the image of what the experimenter is seeking to exploit. Looking at gravitational similies sidelines all kinds of other interesting possibilities.
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Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein.

A is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field

Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node.

According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared.

I like the use of "manifestations" -)

So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper)

Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process...

It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field.

A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour.

A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs.

Anyway, I'm rambling...

---

JustaDude, I know you can explain that better...or rather, more easily to comprehend...my head just started bleeding from somewhere...getting dizzy


I know, I sideline a lot...

Just seems to me that the proposed magnetic field around a conductor experiment needs to be refined a bit. We're either looking at subatomic scale or macroscale. At subatomic scale the elasticity of a magnetic field should blur with that of the aetheric unit field. And then magnetism gets superceded by much stronger single node vortex forces.

At the macro scale, magnetic interaction at a distance interacts with the aetheric "grid" field which has different elasticity. The aether in general is soft with respect to its multinode response, but each node has its own "tenser" characteristics.

These studies of the aetheric "grid" involve imposing a geometric field upon a naturally fractal distribution. Experimental magnetic fields are usually well structured, to allow for characterisation of magnetic flux and field. The reaction from the aether is to locally align and conform with the magnetic field.

So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions...

The aether unit in itself is subordinate to ordered structures which resonate with similarly ordered external biases, so vortex shaped magnetic fields should produce more interactivity. Studying an aether field electrostatically results in geometric distortions which are created in the image of what the experimenter is seeking to exploit. Looking at gravitational similies sidelines all kinds of other interesting possibilities.
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OK, there is a shit-ton to digest here...first reading is elusive as its throwing up some gaps in my head. I've got some small, but vital questions in your response. One of them has to do with your statement: So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions...

oh, wait, I think I am seeing...ok, along with your statement above it can be stated that the aether does not give any trace of being pre-stressed...only through present observation can you see that it has been pre-stressed. Once released, no trace is left of it being pre-stressed. Hence, it misses all the pre-loading, only the present observation of it is available for study.
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Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein.

You might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth
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Never knew Einstein considered magnetic fields either, but apparently he ignored electrical phenomena in his theories?

Ah well.. can't win 'em all
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OK, there is a shit-ton to digest here...first reading is elusive as its throwing up some gaps in my head. I've got some small, but vital questions in your response. One of them has to do with your statement: So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions...

oh, wait, I think I am seeing...ok, along with your statement above it can be stated that the aether does not give any trace of being pre-stressed...only through present observation can you see that it has been pre-stressed. Once released, no trace is left of it being pre-stressed. Hence, it misses all the pre-loading, only the present observation of it is available for study.
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Agreed. Unless, the magnetic field is coupled with "piercing" sub-fields that can directly affect down to a single aether unit. The issue then becomes what effect such a singular and possibly destructive action would have and how it could potentially propagate.

Nature "sings" through the aether, let's not stab through it.
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Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein.

You might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth


Never knew Einstein considered magnetic fields either, but apparently he ignored electrical phenomena in his theories?

Ah well.. can't win 'em all
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Yep...remember , in the beginning of his studies, he need the aether to make his work...'work'.
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Einstein later rejected the concept of aether.

So what is your point?
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OK, there is a shit-ton to digest here...first reading is elusive as its throwing up some gaps in my head. I've got some small, but vital questions in your response. One of them has to do with your statement: So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions...

oh, wait, I think I am seeing...ok, along with your statement above it can be stated that the aether does not give any trace of being pre-stressed...only through present observation can you see that it has been pre-stressed. Once released, no trace is left of it being pre-stressed. Hence, it misses all the pre-loading, only the present observation of it is available for study.


Agreed. Unless, the magnetic field is coupled with "piercing" sub-fields that can directly affect down to a single aether unit. The issue then becomes what effect such a singular and possibly destructive action would have and how it could potentially propagate.

Nature "sings" through the aether, let's not stab through it.
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Right, I remember an experiment...it had to do with formation of vortexes and how they occur through a completely frictionless area...I responded to that as 'snag' points...though getting deep now. It has to do with discharge of excess, which is interaction through aether unit (manifest...not dormant...in other words, interacting with material environment), and movement of matter through manifested aether unit...once aether unit is 'manifested' and stable, it does have affects on material due to its electro/magnetic properties...which can still be frictionless and superluminal.
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Einstein later rejected the concept of aether.

So what is your point?
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Nothing at all...move along.
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Einstein later rejected the concept of aether.

So what is your point?


Nothing at all...move along.
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So young Einstein was a genius.

But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot.

Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings.
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Einstein later rejected the concept of aether.

So what is your point?


Nothing at all...move along.



So young Einstein was a genius.

But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot.

Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings.
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I did not say that at all...you are the one assuming how I feel about it...go away, or I'll ban you from my thread. chuckle
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So what is your point?
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Philadelphia Experiment.
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Einstein later rejected the concept of aether.

So what is your point?
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Yeah, but he didn't know much about plasma, or he wouldn't have had to use aether in the first place
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So young Einstein was a genius.

But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot.

Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings.
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So young Einstein was a genius.

But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot.

Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings.
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Black holes, sun spots, neutron stars & pulsars were all theorized by later proponents of Einstein's theories, even though in Eistein's own words, his theory didn't fit his requirements
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You familiar with the Thunderbolts Project, Sickscent?
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You familiar with the Thunderbolts Project, Sickscent?
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Yep, but not familiar as I want to be...I post some stuff on their forum, but not much

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