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State of Aether in Magnetic Fields: by Albert Einstein

 
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Einstein-æther theories were popularized by Maurizio Gasperini in a series of papers, such as Singularity Prevention and Broken Lorentz Symmetry in the 1980s. In addition to the metric of general relativity these theories also included a scalar field which intuitively corresponded to a universal notion of time. Such a theory will have a preferred reference frame, that in which the universal time is the actual time. The dynamics of the scalar field is identified with that of an æther which is at rest in the preferred frame. This is the origin of the name of the theory, it contains Einstein's gravity plus an æther.
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You familiar with the Thunderbolts Project, Sickscent?


Yep, but not familiar as I want to be...I post some stuff on their forum, but not much
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Ahh, didn't know they had forums, but been reading/watching their productions & never been so fascinated by cosmology, and the other subjects plasma cosmology can't help touching on


Might check their forums out, cheers
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You familiar with the Thunderbolts Project, Sickscent?


Yep, but not familiar as I want to be...I post some stuff on their forum, but not much


Ahh, didn't know they had forums, but been reading/watching their productions & never been so fascinated by cosmology, and the other subjects plasma cosmology can't help touching on


Might check their forums out, cheers
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I would...it is mostly comprised of extremely intelligent people.
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Generalized Einstein-Aether theories and the Solar System - 2007
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Rodinlink

Just rambling but this is kinda how I think of it.

Aether is a perfectly linear wave from the zero points Z axis. It's the invisible energy that connects all matter and manifests matter when it is spun in a vortex creating acceleration without distance.

When this connection is twisted into a harmonious vortex with 2 z axis it creates a vibrational field and causes matter to manifest but when it travels out of the Z axis it is impossible to detect and causes no resistance.

When some of this energy escapes the vortex it turns into light and the shape of the vortex is changed and the matter decays.

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No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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Us humans are just preschooler's trying to apprehend what the adults are doing.. and because our knowledge is limited we tend to dismiss things as new age nonsense or something if it does not configure to our (main stream) understanding.
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I don't understand any of this, but I'm glad to see it being posted and talked about!

I also don't understand how my vision board and thoughts to the Universe work either, but they do anyway, thankfully! afro
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Us humans are just preschooler's trying to apprehend what the adults are doing.. and because our knowledge is limited we tend to dismiss things as new age nonsense or something if it does not configure to our (main stream) understanding.
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Because, many times, intuition is disregarded in favor of 'standards'...and funding
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I don't understand any of this, but I'm glad to see it being posted and talked about!

I also don't understand how my vision board and thoughts to the Universe work either, but they do anyway, thankfully! afro
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hf
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:Rodinlink:

Just rambling but this is kinda how I think of it.

Aether is a perfectly linear wave from the zero points Z axis. It's the invisible energy that connects all matter and manifests matter when it is spun in a vortex creating acceleration without distance.

When this connection is twisted into a harmonious vortex with 2 z axis it creates a vibrational field and causes matter to manifest but when it travels out of the Z axis it is impossible to detect and causes no resistance.

When some of this energy escapes the vortex it turns into light and the shape of the vortex is changed and the matter decays.
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Yes, Prisoner, I love this model as well...fits nice and 'simple'.
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Thread: Aether= Quantum 2 spin rotating magnetic field that encapsulates primary Angular Momentum and via tensengrity forms MATTER with resulting quantum 1/2
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The picture Prisoner posted reminds me of plasma discharges in space, which we can see with the latest radio telescopes; are scalable, and can be recreated in terrestrial laboratories

Even in the original post, some instances of "aether" can be replaced by "plasma" and make just as much, if not more sense

And now I'll probably stay quiet cos I don't wanna hijack the topic
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The picture Prisoner posted reminds me of plasma discharges in space, which we can see with the latest radio telescopes; are scalable, and can be recreated in terrestrial laboratories

Even in the original post, some instances of "aether" can be replaced by "plasma" and make just as much, if not more sense

And now I'll probably stay quiet cos I don't wanna hijack the topic
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Celtic, I love your comments, and would never feel that you hijacked a thread of mine...continue!
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I don't understand any of this, but I'm glad to see it being posted and talked about!

I also don't understand how my vision board and thoughts to the Universe work either, but they do anyway, thankfully! afro
 Quoting: germanbini

There is clear, visual evidence proving the existence of the Aether using a magnet and cathode ray tube. The cathode ray tube could be your computer monitor, TV, or oscilloscope screen. Just make sure your cathode ray tube has a degaussing feature before doing this experiment, or you may permanently disfigure your viewing screen.
Place the magnet against the cathode ray tube with the north or south pole facing the screen. You will notice a pattern seemingly caused by the magnetic flux of the magnet as it reorganizes the electron beams. Once the magnet is flush against the screen, twist it back and forth. You will notice the pattern on the screen does not change. Had the magnet been the source of the magnetic flux, the pattern would have changed since the magnetic flux would link to the molecules and atoms of the magnet. However, the magnetic flux arises from the Aether and thus exists relative to the Aether. Twisting the magnet will not affect the magnetic flux of the Aether. This experiment will work regardless of the shape of the magnet.

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I have know fucking idea what you people are talking about, but FUCK!, IT SOUNDS AMAZING!!!
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I have know fucking idea what you people are talking about, but FUCK!, IT SOUNDS AMAZING!!!
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Aether doesn't exist you morons. That was what people thought when Maxwell derived the equation of the propagation of light from Maxwell equations. He arrived at a velocity "c", which was thought as the propagation velocity of electromagnetic field relative to this "aether". I don't know how you relate this to special relativity, but one of the postulates is that there is no preferred reference frame. That was also the conclusion Michelson and Morley arrived at their famous experiment in 1887 (or so, can't remember the exact date now). Anyways, after Lorentz had derived the transformations laws between frames in order to include the Maxewll equation he found that objects contract in the direction of movement. It was sugested the aether created a force causing this contraction. In 1905 Einstein rejected Lorentz's idea by considering the contraction as a local spacetime effect and not of the objects themselves. This is how it happened.
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Sickcent, There are only a few writers/researchers That I admire and open the link everytime I seethere name,
I'm not kissing ass but believe you do good research and therotical thinking, (excuse spelling)
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:Rodinlink:

Just rambling but this is kinda how I think of it.

Aether is a perfectly linear wave from the zero points Z axis. It's the invisible energy that connects all matter and manifests matter when it is spun in a vortex creating acceleration without distance.

When this connection is twisted into a harmonious vortex with 2 z axis it creates a vibrational field and causes matter to manifest but when it travels out of the Z axis it is impossible to detect and causes no resistance.

When some of this energy escapes the vortex it turns into light and the shape of the vortex is changed and the matter decays.
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Music to my EYES... hf
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Aether doesn't exist you morons. That was what people thought when Maxwell derived the equation of the propagation of light from Maxwell equations. He arrived at a velocity "c", which was thought as the propagation velocity of electromagnetic field relative to this "aether". I don't know how you relate this to special relativity, but one of the postulates is that there is no preferred reference frame. That was also the conclusion Michelson and Morley arrived at their famous experiment in 1887 (or so, can't remember the exact date now). Anyways, after Lorentz had derived the transformations laws between frames in order to include the Maxewll equation he found that objects contract in the direction of movement. It was sugested the aether created a force causing this contraction. In 1905 Einstein rejected Lorentz's idea by considering the contraction as a local spacetime effect and not of the objects themselves. This is how it happened.


damnit...my stalker's back
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Truth hurts doesn't it? 5a
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Sickcent, There are only a few writers/researchers That I admire and open the link everytime I seethere name,
I'm not kissing ass but believe you do good research and therotical thinking, (excuse spelling)
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Thanks Rocky!
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Re: State of Aether in Magnetic Fields: by Albert Einstein
Aether doesn't exist you morons. That was what people thought when Maxwell derived the equation of the propagation of light from Maxwell equations. He arrived at a velocity "c", which was thought as the propagation velocity of electromagnetic field relative to this "aether". I don't know how you relate this to special relativity, but one of the postulates is that there is no preferred reference frame. That was also the conclusion Michelson and Morley arrived at their famous experiment in 1887 (or so, can't remember the exact date now). Anyways, after Lorentz had derived the transformations laws between frames in order to include the Maxewll equation he found that objects contract in the direction of movement. It was sugested the aether created a force causing this contraction. In 1905 Einstein rejected Lorentz's idea by considering the contraction as a local spacetime effect and not of the objects themselves. This is how it happened.


damnit...my stalker's back



Truth hurts doesn't it? 5a
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About you being a stalker...yes

No worries now though...I can just delete your replies. chuckle

5a
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If there is an aether, the the zero-velocity result of the Michelson-Morley experiment is REAL not apparent! That the Earth is stationary at the centre of the universe is re-enshrined: GEOCENTRICTY RULES!

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Sickcent, There are only a few writers/researchers That I admire and open the link everytime I seethere name,
I'm not kissing ass but believe you do good research and therotical thinking, (excuse spelling)


Thanks Rocky!

Now THIS is kissing ass

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I always thought my little dog was smelling my german shepards privats but I'm going have to look a little closer, none the less funny! (excuse spelling)
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:Rodinlink:

Just rambling but this is kinda how I think of it.

Aether is a perfectly linear wave from the zero points Z axis. It's the invisible energy that connects all matter and manifests matter when it is spun in a vortex creating acceleration without distance.

When this connection is twisted into a harmonious vortex with 2 z axis it creates a vibrational field and causes matter to manifest but when it travels out of the Z axis it is impossible to detect and causes no resistance.

When some of this energy escapes the vortex it turns into light and the shape of the vortex is changed and the matter decays.
 Quoting: Prisoner of Technology

i dig that. so if you could alter the vortex axis- or create more/less, you could do some fascinating things. probably been done without knowing it. that could narrow things though.. to get more controlled results..
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Bookmarked to read later ...

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Sickscent - this is off topic but there's an interesting guest on journeys with rebecca radio program just now: Mike Barra talking about solar system changes and its impact on consciousness - maybe a bit more esoteric than this particular topic - but I thought you might be interested:)
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I am a bigger fan of Whittaker's Bi-wave Relativity Theory. It seems to want to marry itself to Quantum Mechanics and Quantum Dynamics in a better relationship the an attempted disharmoius marriage of Einstein's General Relativity. That said, it is good to see this clip of Einstein himself declaring that there has to be an Aethyr.

Noticed also that the last couple of frames of this clip is Tom Bearden.

I am fascinated with this entire realm of study, but tonight by brain is mush... to many sensory problems to deal with to commit many neurons to deep comptemplation of physics.

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