State of Aether in Magnetic Fields: by Albert Einstein | |
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Prisoner of Technology User ID: 792783 United States 10/08/2010 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post once again. Came across some info that might interest you. [link to ddsdtv.blogspot.com] No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are. Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points. |
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just a dude User ID: 1080654 United States 10/09/2010 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein. A is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node. According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared. I like the use of "manifestations" -) So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper) Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process... It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field. A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour. A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs. Anyway, I'm rambling... |
TheWatcher User ID: 997697 United States 10/09/2010 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein. You might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1124001 United States 10/09/2010 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein. Quoting: TheWatcherYou might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth Yes, I know about that concept in your thread. The satellite systems for GPS always have to be adjusted (by the Air Force) because of that phenomenon. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1124001 United States 10/09/2010 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein. Quoting: just a dudeA is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node. According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared. I like the use of "manifestations" -) So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper) Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process... It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field. A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour. A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs. Anyway, I'm rambling... JustaDude, I know you can explain that better...or rather, more easily to comprehend...my head just started bleeding from somewhere...getting dizzy |
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just a dude User ID: 1080654 United States 10/09/2010 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein. Quoting: SickscentA is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node. According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared. I like the use of "manifestations" -) So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper) Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process... It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field. A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour. A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs. Anyway, I'm rambling... --- JustaDude, I know you can explain that better...or rather, more easily to comprehend...my head just started bleeding from somewhere...getting dizzy I know, I sideline a lot... Just seems to me that the proposed magnetic field around a conductor experiment needs to be refined a bit. We're either looking at subatomic scale or macroscale. At subatomic scale the elasticity of a magnetic field should blur with that of the aetheric unit field. And then magnetism gets superceded by much stronger single node vortex forces. At the macro scale, magnetic interaction at a distance interacts with the aetheric "grid" field which has different elasticity. The aether in general is soft with respect to its multinode response, but each node has its own "tenser" characteristics. These studies of the aetheric "grid" involve imposing a geometric field upon a naturally fractal distribution. Experimental magnetic fields are usually well structured, to allow for characterisation of magnetic flux and field. The reaction from the aether is to locally align and conform with the magnetic field. So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions... The aether unit in itself is subordinate to ordered structures which resonate with similarly ordered external biases, so vortex shaped magnetic fields should produce more interactivity. Studying an aether field electrostatically results in geometric distortions which are created in the image of what the experimenter is seeking to exploit. Looking at gravitational similies sidelines all kinds of other interesting possibilities. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1124001 United States 10/09/2010 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently the author didn't like the "if" statement about wavelength being proportional to sqrt(A+k)... critical of a young Einstein. Quoting: just a dudeA is the elastic aether force, a priori a constant which we have to determine empirically, and k the (variable) strength of the magnetic field Would seem to me that if A is constant, it deters from the "intelligent" nature of an aetheric node. According to further reading from the author, the Unified Force Theory provides for 2 charge "manifestations", so charge is distributed as charge squared. I like the use of "manifestations" -) So far so good, two spinning opposing vortices, but like anything with momentum, that inherent momentum is subject to external biases... (RLC // Spring-Mass-Damper) Seems aether has to be pinned between two high density fields/masses to really get a grasp for high stress/strain elastic behavior, otherwise it flows like a sheet in the wind... A shearing high amplitude bias near 0 K, could produce vortex separation, which would most likely result in either light generation as entropy or a tear in 3D and thus time. Doing so, in a controlled environment at higher temperatures should allow for "conduit" formation between the two receding vortices. As a vortex elongates into a tube, ajacent charge pairs (around the vortex "mouth") would then participate in the process... It appears to me that the aether behaves like a fine migrative as well as electrophoretic medium that can also gel like an electrorheological fluid in a static field. A is intrinsically a dominant sub-elastic component of k (the elasticity of aether underlies all other fields), then at a particular magnetic field strength both should exhibit similar elastic behaviour. A behaves as k does, relative energy density dictates charge flow, but an artificial magnetic field warps charge flow and even more so when charge set separation occurs. Anyway, I'm rambling... --- JustaDude, I know you can explain that better...or rather, more easily to comprehend...my head just started bleeding from somewhere...getting dizzy I know, I sideline a lot... Just seems to me that the proposed magnetic field around a conductor experiment needs to be refined a bit. We're either looking at subatomic scale or macroscale. At subatomic scale the elasticity of a magnetic field should blur with that of the aetheric unit field. And then magnetism gets superceded by much stronger single node vortex forces. At the macro scale, magnetic interaction at a distance interacts with the aetheric "grid" field which has different elasticity. The aether in general is soft with respect to its multinode response, but each node has its own "tenser" characteristics. These studies of the aetheric "grid" involve imposing a geometric field upon a naturally fractal distribution. Experimental magnetic fields are usually well structured, to allow for characterisation of magnetic flux and field. The reaction from the aether is to locally align and conform with the magnetic field. So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions... The aether unit in itself is subordinate to ordered structures which resonate with similarly ordered external biases, so vortex shaped magnetic fields should produce more interactivity. Studying an aether field electrostatically results in geometric distortions which are created in the image of what the experimenter is seeking to exploit. Looking at gravitational similies sidelines all kinds of other interesting possibilities. OK, there is a shit-ton to digest here...first reading is elusive as its throwing up some gaps in my head. I've got some small, but vital questions in your response. One of them has to do with your statement: So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions... oh, wait, I think I am seeing...ok, along with your statement above it can be stated that the aether does not give any trace of being pre-stressed...only through present observation can you see that it has been pre-stressed. Once released, no trace is left of it being pre-stressed. Hence, it misses all the pre-loading, only the present observation of it is available for study. |
Celtic (woad-man) User ID: 1087934 Netherlands 10/09/2010 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein. Quoting: TheWatcherYou might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth Never knew Einstein considered magnetic fields either, but apparently he ignored electrical phenomena in his theories? Ah well.. can't win 'em all It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
just a dude User ID: 1080654 United States 10/09/2010 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, there is a shit-ton to digest here...first reading is elusive as its throwing up some gaps in my head. I've got some small, but vital questions in your response. One of them has to do with your statement: So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions... Quoting: Sickscentoh, wait, I think I am seeing...ok, along with your statement above it can be stated that the aether does not give any trace of being pre-stressed...only through present observation can you see that it has been pre-stressed. Once released, no trace is left of it being pre-stressed. Hence, it misses all the pre-loading, only the present observation of it is available for study. Agreed. Unless, the magnetic field is coupled with "piercing" sub-fields that can directly affect down to a single aether unit. The issue then becomes what effect such a singular and possibly destructive action would have and how it could potentially propagate. Nature "sings" through the aether, let's not stab through it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1124001 United States 10/09/2010 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell, you could start a whole thread with just that picture,lol. Thanks Sick, I have never seen this from Einstein. Quoting: Celtic (woad-man)You might find this interesting, rather ties into some topics you have studied. Thread: Scientists use atomic clocks to show that time moves faster at altitude, even on Earth Never knew Einstein considered magnetic fields either, but apparently he ignored electrical phenomena in his theories? Ah well.. can't win 'em all Yep...remember , in the beginning of his studies, he need the aether to make his work...'work'. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1124001 United States 10/09/2010 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, there is a shit-ton to digest here...first reading is elusive as its throwing up some gaps in my head. I've got some small, but vital questions in your response. One of them has to do with your statement: So aether reacts to a magnetic field and locally "densifies" in response. Being prestressed, any elastic measure misses the "preloading" lighter interactions... Quoting: just a dudeoh, wait, I think I am seeing...ok, along with your statement above it can be stated that the aether does not give any trace of being pre-stressed...only through present observation can you see that it has been pre-stressed. Once released, no trace is left of it being pre-stressed. Hence, it misses all the pre-loading, only the present observation of it is available for study. Agreed. Unless, the magnetic field is coupled with "piercing" sub-fields that can directly affect down to a single aether unit. The issue then becomes what effect such a singular and possibly destructive action would have and how it could potentially propagate. Nature "sings" through the aether, let's not stab through it. Right, I remember an experiment...it had to do with formation of vortexes and how they occur through a completely frictionless area...I responded to that as 'snag' points...though getting deep now. It has to do with discharge of excess, which is interaction through aether unit (manifest...not dormant...in other words, interacting with material environment), and movement of matter through manifested aether unit...once aether unit is 'manifested' and stable, it does have affects on material due to its electro/magnetic properties...which can still be frictionless and superluminal. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34583 United States 10/09/2010 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Einstein later rejected the concept of aether. Quoting: SickscentSo what is your point? Nothing at all...move along. So young Einstein was a genius. But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot. Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1124001 United States 10/09/2010 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Einstein later rejected the concept of aether. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34583So what is your point? Nothing at all...move along. So young Einstein was a genius. But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot. Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings. I did not say that at all...you are the one assuming how I feel about it...go away, or I'll ban you from my thread. |
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Celtic (woad-man) User ID: 1087934 Netherlands 10/09/2010 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Einstein later rejected the concept of aether. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34583So what is your point? Yeah, but he didn't know much about plasma, or he wouldn't have had to use aether in the first place It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1124539 United Kingdom 10/09/2010 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Einstein later rejected the concept of aether. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34583So what is your point? Nothing at all...move along. So young Einstein was a genius. But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot. Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings. |
Celtic (woad-man) User ID: 1087934 Netherlands 10/09/2010 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So young Einstein was a genius. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34583But the older, Theroy of Relatviety Einstein was an idiot. Or maybe the PTB got to him and made him change his findings. Black holes, sun spots, neutron stars & pulsars were all theorized by later proponents of Einstein's theories, even though in Eistein's own words, his theory didn't fit his requirements It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
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