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PROOF!!! EARTH is only 6,000 YEARS OLD!

 
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PROOF!!! EARTH is only 6,000 YEARS OLD!
NOT!


Okay, Sorry for the BS thread title, but I'm pissed.

Just got off the phone with a bible thumping brother-in-law who has been brainwashed with some religious fundamentalist garbage to believe that GOD created the Earth 6000 years ago.

He said GOD made the dinosaur bones to TEST OUR FAITH!

Twice I tried to get him to reconsider his dogma and consider a larger picture;

But stopped, when he said that I would go to HELL if I did not join his church and get saved.

As I hung up the phone, I thought, buddy you are the one who needs saving.

Sigh... I get some programmed slaves are not destined to change their stars.
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Geeze, I have learned to just ignore the religious brainwashed types... but your bro-in-law takes this to a new low... 10 mins with the guy and I would test his faith as I can show him the errors in his faith..
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But stopped, when he said that I would go to HELL if I did not join his church and get saved.

So I hung up the phone, withdrew $10,000 from my 401K, and immediately joined his church...

Praise Geebus!
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Good. I was going to say look at the rocks at the bottom of the grand canyon.
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What century is this!?
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So how do they know.
Did they count the rings?
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THE YOUNG EARTH

Science has developed a method of dating which in many cases can determine how long ago a plant or animal lived. This method is known as carbon-14 dating and is based on the radioactive decay of this isotope.

Carbon is vital to all life on earth. All living systems on earth utilize large amounts of the element carbon in their life processes. Carbon is the element which primarily makes up coal, charcoal, pencil leads, lamp-black, and many other familiar substances. When food is burned in a pot, the hard, black material remaining is primarily the carbon which the food contained.

There are three isotopes or forms of carbon which occur naturally on earth. These are carbon-12, carbon-13, and carbon-14. Carbon-12 and carbon-13 are stable, non-radioactive isotopes, and they do not decay. Carbon-14, however, is radioactive, and over a period of time each carbon-14 atom emits a beta particle (electron) and becomes a stable isotope of nitrogen.

If an amount of carbon-14 were placed in a jar and put on a shelf, 5,730 years later only half of it would remain. This number, 5,730, is termed the half-life in years of carbon-14. If sometime in the past, a jar containing one pound of carbon-14 had been placed on a shelf and had not been bothered since then, knowing that the jar originally contained one pound, we could measure the amount remaining in the jar and determine fairly accurately how long it had been there.

Carbon-14 is produced in the earth’s atmosphere by atomic radiation from the sun. All life forms ingest carbon-14 into their living systems by eating and breathing. Carbon-14, therefore, permeates all living tissue with the same percentage of total carbon that is found in the atmosphere.
Approximately 99% of the carbon in the world today is carbon-12. About one percent is carbon-13, and only traces of carbon-14 exist. Because carbon-14 is radioactive and gives off atomic radiation, the tiny amounts in organic material are sufficient to measure the carbon-14 remaining after a fossilized plant or animal has been dead for many years, thereby allowing a determination of the approximate date of death.

Based on carbon-14 dating, scientists have theorized that the world is billions of years old. When the amount of carbon-14 remaining in dinosaur bones is measured, an extremely tiny amount is found, indicating apparently that these prehistoric animals lived millions of years ago.
These findings, however, do not agree with the Bible, for the Bible indicates that the world is only about 6,000 years old. The technique of using carbon-14 for dating is sound only if the original amount of carbon-14 is known. Thus, in using carbon-14 to date ancient life, scientists assume that the amount of carbon-14 on earth has always been what it is today. The Bible indicates, however, that this assumption is not correct and explains why it is not correct.

Genesis 1:6-8 describes the second day of creation week: “And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.”

Notice that the firmament divided the waters. Some of the water was above the firmament, and some of the water was below the firmament.

The firmament is the atmosphere surrounding the planet earth. Genesis 1:20 shows this by stating that God made the birds to fly in the firmament: “And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.” This verse in the New International Version says, “And God said, ‘Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky.’” Thus, we see that the firmament is the expanse of the sky, which separates the water from the water. Genesis 1:6-8 says that part of the water was above this firmament and part of the water was below the firmament.

Notice that these verses tell us that the water is above the firmament, and not in the firmament. What water is in the firmament is really particles of water from the earth, from under the firmament, temporarily suspended during the water cycle of evaporation and rain. These particles occur only in the lower part of the firmament, the upper parts being free of water vapor.

Much of the water which flooded the earth during the time of Noah came from that which was above the firmament. The water above the firmament was in orbit around the earth and provided a very effective radioactive shield which enveloped the earth and protected the earth’s atmosphere from the atomic radiation from the sun. Since atomic radiation from the sun was not reaching the earth, carbon-14 was virtually nonexistent in the atmosphere.

Carbon-14 dating, therefore, is an accurate method only for dating material which lived after the flood. This method cannot be used accurately to date organic material before the flood because we do not know how much carbon-14 ancient life contained.

This situation is analogous to the example of our jar containing one pound of carbon-14. If the jar had been put on the shelf containing only a fraction of an ounce of carbon-14 and we were told that it originally contained one pound, our dating method would determine that the jar had been there for millions of years.

As always, the Bible states the situation correctly when it indicates that the earth is about 6,000 years old. No evidence has ever been found which, when correctly interpreted, shows the Bible to be in error.

[link to www.pacinst.com]
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I just knew some tard would toss out the 'young earth' BS...
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Even I know, that's not true.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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I'm a Christian, but sometimes I just have to shake my head in disbelief when I hear that Christians out there still insist on ignoring all the science of the last 200 years because it doesn't line up with a poetic account of creation in a Bible that makes no claim to be literal or scientific.
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it's true !!!

God made the earth 6000 years ago

and as a joke he made the earth look like it was billions of years old by planting fossils and other things

he also surrounded earth with a universe that looks 10's of billions of years old ...

... what a cut-up !!
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Re: PROOF!!! EARTH is only 6,000 YEARS OLD!
The Bible says the world is about six thousand years old.

How do we arrive at that number?

The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

Is there anything wrong with figuring out the age of the earth this way? No. There is nothing to indicate the genealogies are incomplete. There is nothing to indicate God left anything out. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates in any way that the world is older than 6,000 years old.

The Bible does tell us, however, that the fossils we find could not have been buried before God created Adam. The animals whose bones became fossilized had to have died after God created Adam. That means those fossils must be less than 6,000 years old.

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it's true !!!

God made the earth 6000 years ago

and as a joke he made the earth look like it was billions of years old by planting fossils and other things

he also surrounded earth with a universe that looks 10's of billions of years old ...

... what a cut-up !!
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Pearl Harbor was an inside job.
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I try to not mention religion when I am talking to certain family members....for obvious reasons.
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The New Jerusalem has mankind with awareness of God starting about 6000 years ago but the planet is much older. Before Adam humanity was just in spiritual darkness.

So this way of thinking fits science and religion.


Mon Sept 7/23/10
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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The New Jerusalem has mankind with awareness of God starting about 6000 years ago but the planet is much older. Before Adam humanity was just in spiritual darkness.

So this way of thinking fits science and religion.


Mon Sept 7/23/10
 Quoting: NewJerusalemRuss




You are a COWARD!!


And a liar!!
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THE YOUNG EARTH

Science has developed a method of dating which in many cases can determine how long ago a plant or animal lived. This method is known as carbon-14 dating and is based on the radioactive decay of this isotope.

Carbon is vital to all life on earth. All living systems on earth utilize large amounts of the element carbon in their life processes. Carbon is the element which primarily makes up coal, charcoal, pencil leads, lamp-black, and many other familiar substances. When food is burned in a pot, the hard, black material remaining is primarily the carbon which the food contained.

There are three isotopes or forms of carbon which occur naturally on earth. These are carbon-12, carbon-13, and carbon-14. Carbon-12 and carbon-13 are stable, non-radioactive isotopes, and they do not decay. Carbon-14, however, is radioactive, and over a period of time each carbon-14 atom emits a beta particle (electron) and becomes a stable isotope of nitrogen.

If an amount of carbon-14 were placed in a jar and put on a shelf, 5,730 years later only half of it would remain. This number, 5,730, is termed the half-life in years of carbon-14. If sometime in the past, a jar containing one pound of carbon-14 had been placed on a shelf and had not been bothered since then, knowing that the jar originally contained one pound, we could measure the amount remaining in the jar and determine fairly accurately how long it had been there.

Carbon-14 is produced in the earth’s atmosphere by atomic radiation from the sun. All life forms ingest carbon-14 into their living systems by eating and breathing. Carbon-14, therefore, permeates all living tissue with the same percentage of total carbon that is found in the atmosphere.
Approximately 99% of the carbon in the world today is carbon-12. About one percent is carbon-13, and only traces of carbon-14 exist. Because carbon-14 is radioactive and gives off atomic radiation, the tiny amounts in organic material are sufficient to measure the carbon-14 remaining after a fossilized plant or animal has been dead for many years, thereby allowing a determination of the approximate date of death.

Based on carbon-14 dating, scientists have theorized that the world is billions of years old. When the amount of carbon-14 remaining in dinosaur bones is measured, an extremely tiny amount is found, indicating apparently that these prehistoric animals lived millions of years ago.
These findings, however, do not agree with the Bible, for the Bible indicates that the world is only about 6,000 years old. The technique of using carbon-14 for dating is sound only if the original amount of carbon-14 is known. Thus, in using carbon-14 to date ancient life, scientists assume that the amount of carbon-14 on earth has always been what it is today. The Bible indicates, however, that this assumption is not correct and explains why it is not correct.

Genesis 1:6-8 describes the second day of creation week: “And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.”

Notice that the firmament divided the waters. Some of the water was above the firmament, and some of the water was below the firmament.

The firmament is the atmosphere surrounding the planet earth. Genesis 1:20 shows this by stating that God made the birds to fly in the firmament: “And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.” This verse in the New International Version says, “And God said, ‘Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky.’” Thus, we see that the firmament is the expanse of the sky, which separates the water from the water. Genesis 1:6-8 says that part of the water was above this firmament and part of the water was below the firmament.

Notice that these verses tell us that the water is above the firmament, and not in the firmament. What water is in the firmament is really particles of water from the earth, from under the firmament, temporarily suspended during the water cycle of evaporation and rain. These particles occur only in the lower part of the firmament, the upper parts being free of water vapor.

Much of the water which flooded the earth during the time of Noah came from that which was above the firmament. The water above the firmament was in orbit around the earth and provided a very effective radioactive shield which enveloped the earth and protected the earth’s atmosphere from the atomic radiation from the sun. Since atomic radiation from the sun was not reaching the earth, carbon-14 was virtually nonexistent in the atmosphere.

Carbon-14 dating, therefore, is an accurate method only for dating material which lived after the flood. This method cannot be used accurately to date organic material before the flood because we do not know how much carbon-14 ancient life contained.

This situation is analogous to the example of our jar containing one pound of carbon-14. If the jar had been put on the shelf containing only a fraction of an ounce of carbon-14 and we were told that it originally contained one pound, our dating method would determine that the jar had been there for millions of years.

As always, the Bible states the situation correctly when it indicates that the earth is about 6,000 years old. No evidence has ever been found which, when correctly interpreted, shows the Bible to be in error.

[link to www.pacinst.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 150114


The SIGN of the creation myth, the SIGN of the flood myth, and the SIGN of the baptism:

waters above, waters below:

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This is funny because I have rocks that are older than 6000 years old. Bible'ers are funny as hell. Thanks for the laugh.
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The New Jerusalem has mankind with awareness of God starting about 6000 years ago but the planet is much older. Before Adam humanity was just in spiritual darkness.

So this way of thinking fits science and religion.


Mon Sept 7/23/10




You are a COWARD!!


And a liar!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113349



But wait a minute here, you are the one with coward in your name.


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John 4:24
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Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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This is funny because I have rocks that are older than 6000 years old. Bible'ers are funny as hell. Thanks for the laugh.
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I am a Bibler and I believe the planet is older than 6000 years and I like science.


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John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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Ahh well you know live and let live...
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He must be going to this museum.

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But wait a minute here, you are the one with coward in your name.


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Right, you spew your BS like it's fact. You are now denying the word of God in public, all you drag down with you will be blood on your hands!

You are a liar and a coward!
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I'm a Christian, but sometimes I just have to shake my head in disbelief when I hear that Christians out there still insist on ignoring all the science of the last 200 years because it doesn't line up with a poetic account of creation in a Bible that makes no claim to be literal or scientific.
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The Bible also does not say the earth is only 6,000 years old.

To the contrary, it indicates that it is VERY old.

The time since Adam's creation is about 6,000 years - the years since man's creation is about 13-14 thousand years.

The earth its self is untold millions of years old.
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The New Jerusalem has mankind with awareness of God starting about 6000 years ago but the planet is much older. Before Adam humanity was just in spiritual darkness.

So this way of thinking fits science and religion.


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 Quoting: NewJerusalemRuss


OMG, this is the first post you have posted that I actually agree with!
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OK, so there's some here who are saying they believe in a GAP Theory?

Just say it then.
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The New Jerusalem has mankind with awareness of God starting about 6000 years ago but the planet is much older. Before Adam humanity was just in spiritual darkness.

So this way of thinking fits science and religion.


Mon Sept 7/23/10


OMG, this is the first post you have posted that I actually agree with!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081511



Sure it is, he's bending over for the world's view, so I'm sure you would agree.
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OK, so there's some here who are saying they believe in a GAP Theory?

Just say it then.
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my theory is still the best
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The New Jerusalem has mankind with awareness of God starting about 6000 years ago but the planet is much older. Before Adam humanity was just in spiritual darkness.

So this way of thinking fits science and religion.


Mon Sept 7/23/10




You are a COWARD!!


And a liar!!



But wait a minute here, you are the one with coward in your name.


Mon Sept 7/23/10
 Quoting: NewJerusalemRuss



lmao
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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But wait a minute here, you are the one with coward in your name.


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Right, you spew your BS like it's fact. You are now denying the word of God in public, all you drag down with you will be blood on your hands!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113349



Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.


So it looks like heaven and earth were created in the beginning and Adam was about 6000 years ago which began humanity's awareness of God and journey with God .


Mon Sept 7/23/10
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God