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CHEMTRAILS ONCE AGAIN MASKING THE SUN Northampton

 
Anonymous Coward
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10/12/2010 02:49 AM
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I haven't seen chemtrails all summer. First summer in 10 years where we didn't have them and it was the hottest summer in 10 years.


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10/12/2010 03:47 PM
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What....and then present the evidence on You-Tube??? so funny.

The only way for it to gain credibility is for the MSM to be involved in reporting it. Since the global elites control the MSM, many of our politicians, and are the ones ultimately responsible for all the poisons that we injest daily.....your suggestion might run into a bit of interference.
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As long as chemtrail believers are as apathetic as you, "chemtrails" will remain nothing but a story. Even I tried to raise money for a sampling plane and lab analysis. Not enough people were interested.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
ASZ Mr.gibbles
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10/13/2010 08:35 PM
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If they have no problems with injecting you by needle with aluminum and other toxins.....why would they have a problem with spraying you.....whether it is by a white trail or invisible.

The list of poisons allowed by the government in food, water, medication, vaccines goes on and on.


Once you have an established criminal record.....it is no longer innocent until proven guilty....but vice versa.....guilty until proven innocent.


The burden is therefore on you to prove that what people are seeing up in the sky is harmless.


And the only way to do this is to bring down a suspected plane and search it.


Cute attempt at logical wrangling, but it failed. Well-understood, tried, and tested facts of chemistry, physics, and meteorology explain why contrails sometimes form clouds. If you think it's something different, then you must present physical evidence. Anything else is just you making up stories.
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Whenever i think of the Guy i will think of tiny tim and tip toeing thru the tulips song and look up and say the atmospheric conditions are always what the Guy taught me, la la la lala,NOT.
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10/13/2010 10:45 PM
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Not only are these shills getting paid by the air force to be traitors against the U.S. and humanity in general, they really enjoy trying to cover up and propagate further use of these poison’s on their Family, Friends, on all Life in the sea, land and air.
No one can be so thick as to think that by parroting a link to a picture of a group or wing heading for Berlin during WW2, that we will then forget that we have all read another thirty pages of facts and seen ten hours of video on the Chemtrail/Geo Engineering, HAARP, issues (and that is being conservative).
The reason I say you are shills is because if you ;

#1. Don’t read the heading of threads (If you did - you would see this thread is for people seeking additional information or for adding additional information on the subject of Chemtrails/GeoEng. - None of them are asking if Chemtrails exist anymore.

#2. Just like the group that says we didn’t go to the moon: instead of acknowledging when you are wrong you misdirect on to a different subject in an endless circle jerk of wasted time and intellect. (Classic intelligence method to keep people from actually learning anything, used by mainstream media and TPTB).

#3. Refuse to start your own thread and talk with others that think with the same mind - Boy that would be a lively discussion!

#4. Totally and obviously refuse to look at or learn any of the facts, patents, scientific results, witnesses and physical laws involved, instead constantly throw tantrums demanding to be taught the subject while they show their bomber picture over and over.


Just having the shills here proves the subject is a big fear to the powers that be, LETS KEEP DIGGING, and KEEP TELLING OTHERS!!! Probably better to call it Geo-Engineering to people unfamiliar with the issues. Chemtrails = Conspiracy Theory, thanks to the Bomber Guys.

PS - Not necessary to reply, I am not interested in your bomber tantrums.
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10/13/2010 11:57 PM
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What....and then present the evidence on You-Tube??? so funny.

The only way for it to gain credibility is for the MSM to be involved in reporting it. Since the global elites control the MSM, many of our politicians, and are the ones ultimately responsible for all the poisons that we injest daily.....your suggestion might run into a bit of interference.


As long as chemtrail believers are as apathetic as you, "chemtrails" will remain nothing but a story. Even I tried to raise money for a sampling plane and lab analysis. Not enough people were interested.
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"Mr. Scientist.....could you take a day off from teaching chemistry and fly up into that cloud up there. Take a sample. Look for something toxic.

I understand that your school does receive some Federal Funding.....but you can use an alias name in your research paper.

Once you identify the poison......all that you have to do then is say in your conclusions that a plane put that cloud and poison up there....

and that you just happen to also know that it was a NATO plane."


And here's a hundred bucks for your time and trouble.
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10/14/2010 12:07 AM
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Preparation bombing takes place first.....then the troops arrive.


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The Guy

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10/14/2010 05:10 AM
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"Mr. Scientist.....could you take a day off from teaching chemistry and fly up into that cloud up there. Take a sample. Look for something toxic.

I understand that your school does receive some Federal Funding.....but you can use an alias name in your research paper.

Once you identify the poison......all that you have to do then is say in your conclusions that a plane put that cloud and poison up there....

and that you just happen to also know that it was a NATO plane."


And here's a hundred bucks for your time and trouble.
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Rent the plane, hire a pilot, and take the sample yourself. Find an independent lab, and have the sample analyzed. The lab doesn't need to know the source, only wht they're looking for (metals, organics, etc.). Do I have to do all your thinking for you?
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10/16/2010 08:03 PM
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Guy....Guy....Guy


We are so patient with you.


OK.....let's say that you took the samples.....and the lab found something.


So what?


How do you prove that they were sprayed from a plane???


And how do you prove that it was a government plane???


"Do I have to do all your thinking for you?" (no strike that.......not nice)
The Guy

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Guy....Guy....Guy


We are so patient with you.


OK.....let's say that you took the samples.....and the lab found something.


So what?


How do you prove that they were sprayed from a plane???


And how do you prove that it was a government plane???


"Do I have to do all your thinking for you?" (no strike that.......not nice)
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The fact that there was something in a direct sample at a higher concentration than in ground samples would speak volumes, no matter who was operating the responsible plane.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
Anonymous Coward
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10/16/2010 09:02 PM
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Ideas for Geoengineering: Alvia Gaskill.

Direct Injection of Sulfur Dioxide Gas Using Dedicated Fleet of Jet Aircraft

This is also an old idea (both Budyko and Broecker proposed it in the 1980’s), but one which is possibly doable. Sulfur dioxide gas is used on a large scale to bleach paper and as one of the feedstocks in the manufacturing of nearly 40 million tons of sulfuric acid in the U.S. alone. It is obtained by burning sulfur. Thus, there is no shortage of sulfur dioxide. It is available in 2000lb tanks as a 99.5% pure liquid. Converting this to a gas onboard an aircraft for purposes of release into the ambient air is a process that will have to be studied. It remains a liquid below 14°F and might stay one if simply bled out into the air behind a plane carrying it. If so, then it will have to be converted to a gas onboard and then bled out.


Using the 1.612Tg per year in the 2030 example from the table and considering that sulfur is half the weight of sulfur dioxide and assuming as in Option 1 that half the SO2 is converted to sulfuric acid aerosol, this requires roughly 17,600 tons per day must be released globally. Assuming a single plane can release 40 tons per day or 2.5 tons/hr, this requires a fleet of 440 planes. Each plane flies 3, 6 hour shifts per day and is in the stratosphere for 16 hours each day. This requires that 92lbs be released per minute from each plane.


The aircraft can likely be obtained from those retired from service that are stored in the U.S. in the Mojave Desert. These planes can probably be purchased for a few million dollars each and retrofitted for the sulfur dioxide release program. The sulfur dioxide cost is also borne by the government. This plan could also be carried out by a single country, most likely the U.S. or Russia, although to effectively distribute the sulfur dioxide would require use of the airspace of other countries, thereby reducing its utility as a unilateral approach.


Some of the same concerns as with the sulfur in jet fuel option apply here as well. Burning of jet fuel produces water that will react with SO2 emitted from the turbines and form sulfuric acid. In the case of direct injection of SO2 gas into the stratosphere, the conversion to sulfuric acid may be much slower. Likewise, it is not known how much SO2 is actually converted to sulfuric acid. Thus, it will be necessary to monitor the release to determine how much is converted. A co-release of water vapor along with the SO2 might speed the process of conversion.


Direct spraying of sulfuric acid is not practical, since dilutions on the order of 20-100:1 with water would be required and aerosolizing of the acid solution would probably not be possible or might result in ice formation or simply droplets too large to stay suspended.


Use of a dedicated fleet also frees up the planes to fly the most advantageous routes and times for release. As noted earlier, releases along the equator are more likely to become evenly distributed globally, while those at high latitudes tend to stay there. By not being locked into existing flight schedules, this release program will have much more flexibility.


The potential for civilian casualties is also greatly reduced, since the dedicated flights will carry no more than a dozen individuals vs. hundreds on commercial aircraft should a catastrophic failure result. Unlike the commercial fleet, these planes will not use high sulfur fuel, so any accidents would have to come from some other cause.

[link to www.global-warming-geo-engineering.org]
Anonymous Coward
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10/16/2010 10:08 PM
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1. You would have the lab saying that the sample you gave tested positive for toxins A,B,C,etc.

2. You would have your word saying that you collected it from the sky.....and perhaps the pilot who took you up. This would not even count as evidence. You would need MSM with you or several will known scientists.....to serve as witnesses.....while you collected samples from the air.

3. You still would not be able to prove that it was sprayed intentionally from a government plane.....which was the original premise.


4. Aluminum particles in the air can also be attributed to industry and other sources.

So just finding a lot in the air is not enough.


[link to www.jstor.org]

[link to www.furnacemanufacturer.co.in]


[link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]



5. One of the few ways to prove the government is spraying us would be to obtain a jet to follow the suspected plane. This would be much more expensive than what you originally suggested. You would be picked up on their radar. This would likely result in a very unpleasant response.

If you were able to follow them to their airfield.....you would then have to quickly obtain a court order to have the place searched by many policeman. This could very well be refused.....or take a long time. The base could be made to appear squeeky clean by the time anyone arrived. Local police in addition are now much more subservient to the Feds... following changes in our laws after 9/11.


6. The task is neither cheap, simple, or without risk....so it should not be made to look trivial.


7. As for my own views......the government (or those that actually give the orders) has already proven itself guilty of endangering the public on many fronts.....and over the course of many years. This is just one more evil action on their part. God will one day punish all involved. Nothing escapes His attention.
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10/16/2010 10:25 PM
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CHEMTRAILS ONCE AGAIN MASKING THE SUN Northampton
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Anonymous Coward
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12/05/2010 05:28 AM
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WTF!! It is not just the sun, the chemtrail also has a new path.
Anonymous Coward
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12/05/2010 05:50 AM
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Northampton! Ew what a hole of a place!

They can chem-trail that place as much as they like as far as I'm concerned! 5a
Anonymous Coward
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12/05/2010 06:20 AM
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I haven't seen chemtrails all summer. First summer in 10 years where we didn't have them and it was the hottest summer in 10 years.


HMMMZ
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I can see them all the time, even now in winter. I'll sell U a hell. Bloddy. And the power I have.
Anonymous Coward
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12/05/2010 06:21 AM
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I haven't seen chemtrails all summer. First summer in 10 years where we didn't have them and it was the hottest summer in 10 years.


HMMMZ

I can see them all the time, even now in winter. I'll sell U a hell. Bloddy. And the power I have.
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SorrY : bloody.
Judeth

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12/05/2010 06:26 AM
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Same here in Vermont. None for a few days and then today chemtrails.


You mean contrails, right? lol
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Az3 I think that most people (except you and Snakie) know the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail.





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