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Congressional Concerns Remain as NASA Chief Prepares for China Trip

Space News - Amy Klamper - ‎2 hours ago‎
WASHINGTON — Despite separate requests from two Republican lawmakers, NASA does not plan to formally brief Congress before the agency's top ... Bolden to Beijing?
Texas Insider - ‎3 hours ago‎

“Considering that Congress has raised concerns about and set limitations on cooperation with China, I do not believe it is appropriate for the Administrator ... Letter From NASA Administrator Bolden to Rep. Wolf Regarding China
Space Ref (press release) - ‎6 hours ago‎
Thank you for your letter regarding my planned travel to China later this month. As we discussed during our recent meeting, I greatly value your advice and ...
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Bolden told Wolf he has been invited to visit manned spaceflight facilities "that were previously not offered to my predecessors."
more by Charles Bolden - 2 hours ago - Space News (1 occurrences)


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Congressman Raises Concern About NASA Chief's Visit to China
Gather.com - Christine Zibas - ‎6 hours ago‎
With all the recent budget cuts to NASA, it's no surprise that the space agency is looking for new partnerships to help fund space projects. ... All 4 related articles »
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Hurry Hurry before they broadcast their lunar probe's findings to the world! LOL
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Virtually every UFO sighting to date has been either Chinese lanterns or RC planes. Flying saucers buzzing around Earth is total fiction.
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Virtually every UFO sighting to date has been either Chinese lanterns or RC planes. Flying saucers buzzing around Earth is total fiction.
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Wrong.
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Virtually every UFO sighting to date has been either Chinese lanterns or RC planes. Flying saucers buzzing around Earth is total fiction.



Wrong.

Ok...correction...virtually every UFO sighting to date has been Chinese lanterns, RC planes, or swamp gas.
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Go start your own thread instead of taking mine off-topic. Thanks.
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What a sad world we live in when people won't wake up to the truth.
All the 'alien' disclosure info to for a reason. There are NO COICIDENCES in life.
BTW, these entities are demonic...in nature.
Peace & Blessings-ENDTIMESWATCHER
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A NASA official said Oct. 12 that Bolden would be tied up in a senior management retreat before he departs Oct. 15 for China. “No formal briefs are scheduled but we will be prepared to answer any questions,” the official said.

In an Oct. 8 letter to Wolf, Bolden outlined his itinerary, characterized the trip as “introductory” and said NASA will not consider any specific proposals from the Chinese for human spaceflight cooperation. He also said a reciprocal visit by Chinese government officials to NASA facilities in November would be guided by “the degree of transparency and openness that is displayed during my visit.”

[link to www.spacenews.com]




Also leaving for China this week is White House science chief John Holdren, who will travel to Beijing for the second round of meetings under a U.S.-China Innovation Dialogue, according to White House spokesman Rick Weiss.

“Participants will include representatives from the Departments of State, Treasury, Commerce, Energy, the Office of the US Trade Representative and the United States Trademark and Patent Office,” Weiss said in an Oct. 12 e-mail to Space News. The meeting, which will occur Oct. 13-15, will also include representatives from the private sector, including Microsoft and GE, Weiss said. In addition, Holdren will be traveling to Shanghai where he will deliver a speech Oct. 15 at Tongi University about science, technology and innovation in the Obama administration.

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What a sad world we live in when people won't wake up to the truth.
All the 'alien' disclosure info to for a reason. There are NO COICIDENCES in life.
BTW, these entities are demonic...in nature.
Peace & Blessings-ENDTIMESWATCHER
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I hope you're somehow mistaken about any demonic entities! That would suck!
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Remember to throw your poo straight up into the air.
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Remember to throw your poo straight up into the air.
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Are you dweebs trying to force me to log in so I can delete you? Go spam your own threads! thanks.
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And do you have any legitimate proof for your wild claim that "these entities are demonic...in nature" or did you just completely make it up?


What a sad world we live in when people won't wake up to the truth.
All the 'alien' disclosure info to for a reason. There are NO COICIDENCES in life.
BTW, these entities are demonic...in nature.
Peace & Blessings-ENDTIMESWATCHER
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Remember to throw your poo straight up into the air.



Are you dweebs trying to force me to log in so I can delete you? Go spam your own threads! thanks.
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From Mike Rivero at whatreallyhappened.com:

[link to whatreallyhappened.com]

Now, this gets interesting. The real videos of the China UFO (not the obvious fakes with disks and lights) clearly show an ultra-high atmospheric vehicle in operation, with at least a portion of the flight above the atmosphere. Whether what was seen in the Chinese sky was the Shenlong, Hermez, or the "601" H-2, the message is clear. Whether weaponized or not, China's space program has jumped way beyond that of the United States.

So why the UFO cover story?

Simple. America's self-image is in large part linked to the Apollo Moon program and America's achievements in space during the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s.
But the shuttle fleet is about to be retired after suffering a 40% loss rate, and the replacement shuttle, along with the return to the Moon, have been cut from NASA's budget by the Obama administration. Indeed NASA is but a thin shadow of its former self, like NOAA mostly used for propaganda value to support the push for a global carbon tax. After the last shuttle flies, Americans will no longer be able to fly into space; our crews will have to hitch rides on other nations' rockets.

So now as the USA loses its space-faring capability comes a dramatic demonstration that China has advanced into some amazing new technologies. The USA failed to keep up because once again short-sighted government policy squandered the technology lead created by the Apollo program in the 1960s.

This is a major embarrassment for the US government, especially just before an election, especially for the President and the Congress that gutted NASA to shower money all over Wall Street and buy F-35s for Israel.

Now, in studying the video I think that what was over the skies of China was not specifically the Shenlong. The Shenlong is a non-staged vehicle and in the below video what appears to be a staging event is seen at 30 seconds.



From the flight performance, and staging, I think we are dealing with a larger vehicle, like the Aurora a high altitude transport that deploys a much smaller exo-atmospheric vehicle. And this Chinese image showing potential designs for manned space shuttles includes such a design, possibly the Horizontal take-off and completely reusable H-2.

This talk of UFOs is intended to conceal from the voters and taxpayers that other nations have taken the lead in space away from the United States.


Sooner or later China will fly this machine over the United States with impunity in a replay of the days when the US sent the U-2 and later the SR-71 over the USSR knowing that (with the sole exception of the sabotage which brought down Francis Gary Powers) the Soviets could do nothing about the flights. Pre-conditioning the Americans to shout UFO when the glowing contrails appear in the night sky allows the US Government to pretend that at least here on Earth, American technology still reigns supreme.

Even if we avoid war with China, what remains of America's manufacturing is based on sales of weapons promoted as the most technologically advanced in the world. But that claim, and those sales, must crumble in the face of a clear demonstration that China is the new technological giant of the 21st Century!
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From Mike Rivero at whatreallyhappened.com:

[link to whatreallyhappened.com]

Now, this gets interesting. The real videos of the China UFO (not the obvious fakes with disks and lights) clearly show an ultra-high atmospheric vehicle in operation, with at least a portion of the flight above the atmosphere. Whether what was seen in the Chinese sky was the Shenlong, Hermez, or the "601" H-2, the message is clear. Whether weaponized or not, China's space program has jumped way beyond that of the United States.

So why the UFO cover story?

Simple. America's self-image is in large part linked to the Apollo Moon program and America's achievements in space during the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s.
But the shuttle fleet is about to be retired after suffering a 40% loss rate, and the replacement shuttle, along with the return to the Moon, have been cut from NASA's budget by the Obama administration. Indeed NASA is but a thin shadow of its former self, like NOAA mostly used for propaganda value to support the push for a global carbon tax. After the last shuttle flies, Americans will no longer be able to fly into space; our crews will have to hitch rides on other nations' rockets.

So now as the USA loses its space-faring capability comes a dramatic demonstration that China has advanced into some amazing new technologies. The USA failed to keep up because once again short-sighted government policy squandered the technology lead created by the Apollo program in the 1960s.

This is a major embarrassment for the US government, especially just before an election, especially for the President and the Congress that gutted NASA to shower money all over Wall Street and buy F-35s for Israel.

Now, in studying the video I think that what was over the skies of China was not specifically the Shenlong. The Shenlong is a non-staged vehicle and in the below video what appears to be a staging event is seen at 30 seconds.



From the flight performance, and staging, I think we are dealing with a larger vehicle, like the Aurora a high altitude transport that deploys a much smaller exo-atmospheric vehicle. And this Chinese image showing potential designs for manned space shuttles includes such a design, possibly the Horizontal take-off and completely reusable H-2.

This talk of UFOs is intended to conceal from the voters and taxpayers that other nations have taken the lead in space away from the United States.


Sooner or later China will fly this machine over the United States with impunity in a replay of the days when the US sent the U-2 and later the SR-71 over the USSR knowing that (with the sole exception of the sabotage which brought down Francis Gary Powers) the Soviets could do nothing about the flights. Pre-conditioning the Americans to shout UFO when the glowing contrails appear in the night sky allows the US Government to pretend that at least here on Earth, American technology still reigns supreme.

Even if we avoid war with China, what remains of America's manufacturing is based on sales of weapons promoted as the most technologically advanced in the world. But that claim, and those sales, must crumble in the face of a clear demonstration that China is the new technological giant of the 21st Century!
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Good article. Very thought-provoking.

IMO the author is missing something key: we don't show our cards.

Fact: If the chinese were truly that advanced they'd have no need to be stealing our 'feeble' technology.

I think we're years ahead of them and they just don't know it yet.

But, we still aren't wanting them to make us prove it.
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Virtually every UFO sighting to date has been either Chinese lanterns or RC planes. Flying saucers buzzing around Earth is total fiction.
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It's harvest time - and the self-proclaimed 'rulers' of this planet are trying to circle the wagons to try to save themselves. They know that there are 'others' above them in the food chain - and they are all lunch!
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It's harvest time - and the self-proclaimed 'rulers' of this planet are trying to circle the wagons to try to save themselves. They know that there are 'others' above them in the food chain - and they are all lunch!
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Not sure about 'harvest'. That term has always distressed me. Things are only harvested to be eaten...
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From Mike Rivero at whatreallyhappened.com:

[link to whatreallyhappened.com]

Now, this gets interesting. The real videos of the China UFO (not the obvious fakes with disks and lights) clearly show an ultra-high atmospheric vehicle in operation, with at least a portion of the flight above the atmosphere. Whether what was seen in the Chinese sky was the Shenlong, Hermez, or the "601" H-2, the message is clear. Whether weaponized or not, China's space program has jumped way beyond that of the United States.

So why the UFO cover story?

Simple. America's self-image is in large part linked to the Apollo Moon program and America's achievements in space during the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s.
But the shuttle fleet is about to be retired after suffering a 40% loss rate, and the replacement shuttle, along with the return to the Moon, have been cut from NASA's budget by the Obama administration. Indeed NASA is but a thin shadow of its former self, like NOAA mostly used for propaganda value to support the push for a global carbon tax. After the last shuttle flies, Americans will no longer be able to fly into space; our crews will have to hitch rides on other nations' rockets.

So now as the USA loses its space-faring capability comes a dramatic demonstration that China has advanced into some amazing new technologies. The USA failed to keep up because once again short-sighted government policy squandered the technology lead created by the Apollo program in the 1960s.

This is a major embarrassment for the US government, especially just before an election, especially for the President and the Congress that gutted NASA to shower money all over Wall Street and buy F-35s for Israel.

Now, in studying the video I think that what was over the skies of China was not specifically the Shenlong. The Shenlong is a non-staged vehicle and in the below video what appears to be a staging event is seen at 30 seconds.



From the flight performance, and staging, I think we are dealing with a larger vehicle, like the Aurora a high altitude transport that deploys a much smaller exo-atmospheric vehicle. And this Chinese image showing potential designs for manned space shuttles includes such a design, possibly the Horizontal take-off and completely reusable H-2.

This talk of UFOs is intended to conceal from the voters and taxpayers that other nations have taken the lead in space away from the United States.


Sooner or later China will fly this machine over the United States with impunity in a replay of the days when the US sent the U-2 and later the SR-71 over the USSR knowing that (with the sole exception of the sabotage which brought down Francis Gary Powers) the Soviets could do nothing about the flights. Pre-conditioning the Americans to shout UFO when the glowing contrails appear in the night sky allows the US Government to pretend that at least here on Earth, American technology still reigns supreme.

Even if we avoid war with China, what remains of America's manufacturing is based on sales of weapons promoted as the most technologically advanced in the world. But that claim, and those sales, must crumble in the face of a clear demonstration that China is the new technological giant of the 21st Century!



Good article. Very thought-provoking.

IMO the author is missing something key: we don't show our cards.

Fact: If the chinese were truly that advanced they'd have no need to be stealing our 'feeble' technology.

I think we're years ahead of them and they just don't know it yet.

But, we still aren't wanting them to make us prove it.
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Agreed. Saved me some typing time.
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Maybe china sucessfully developped their emdrive prototype
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Maybe china sucessfully developped their emdrive prototype
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What's that?
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Maybe china sucessfully developped their emdrive prototype


What's that?
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A propellant less thruster
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Virtually every UFO sighting to date has been either Chinese lanterns or RC planes. Flying saucers buzzing around Earth is total fiction.



Wrong.

Ok...correction...virtually every UFO sighting to date has been Chinese lanterns, RC planes, or swamp gas.



Go start your own thread instead of taking mine off-topic. Thanks.
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he isnt going off topic he is just pointing out that you talk crap and lie alot...very imaginative though a bit sad.
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Virtually every UFO sighting to date has been either Chinese lanterns or RC planes. Flying saucers buzzing around Earth is total fiction.



Wrong.

Ok...correction...virtually every UFO sighting to date has been Chinese lanterns, RC planes, or swamp gas.



Go start your own thread instead of taking mine off-topic. Thanks.



he isnt going off topic he is just pointing out that you talk crap and lie alot...very imaginative though a bit sad.
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Wrong. I can and do tell exactly why I think what I'm thinking, and the people who know me say I reek of integrity.

1) I don't lie, it would bother me.

2) Imagination is for creative ventures, not discussions. I speculate sometimes, and I make that clear if it isn't clear in what I'm saying. Generally any person can discern that from the context of both the topics and the replies.

Shame on you for even bothering to 'watch' anybody's particular posts. Each should stand alone, on their own merits of content.

That said, since you're accusing me of talking crap and lying, what is it - in particular - that you're taking issue with?
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What's that?

A propellant less thruster
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Thanks :^)
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Okay, so you're thinking Microsoft and GE are going along to sell them plans for state of the art toaster ovens and keyboards? And they need to keep that secret from Congress?LOL
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Gee, does this seem like even more timely now with the disappearing chinese village?
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Except for the fact that this footage was lifted from an earlier video of an "UFO" over Bishkek, the capital of Kyrgyzstan:
[link to www.youtube.com]

That turned out to be a Progress launch from Baikonur:
[link to forum.nasaspaceflight.com]
(links and images in that thread, scroll down)

Do you feel duped now?

As for Bolden, I suggest reading the coverage at NASA Watch:
[link to www.nasawatch.com]
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Go start your own thread instead of taking mine off-topic. Thanks.
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Have you any evidence to what are you claiming?

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The article isn't about disclosure.

How did you come to that conclusion?

This is about China the next Superpower and a flaccid US space program.

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