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OK ... I saw many of you were trying to find the safest country/place to be when all hell breaks loose. This info is mostly directed to white people :) ... From taking my time to figure it out based on the knowledge I have, I came up with the safest and most developed spot on the planet for the events to come.



Some of you came up with moving to South American country and living a simple life in nature with not many people around. One problem is that those not developed countries are mostly controlled by drug cartels, dictators, militia. Not so safe (unless you're a Hispanic and know the language).


Other place I saw few of you talk about was the Pacific. Another REALLY bad idea. Australia and New Zealand had their gun rights taken away for a reason. At the start of WW3 (yes I do know this for a fact) both of these countries will be invaded by the Chinese. You don't want to be there when that happens ...


For those of you in North America, that think stocking up on food, weapons and ammo will save you ... think again. At first maybe it will help you get the "American savages" out of your property and avoiding the shit that will happen first, but after few weeks of chaos, nothing can save you from the "Red Dawn". The only safest spot in North America will be the very East side of Canada (around Nova Scotia).


Countries on some parts of the globe are very obvious why not to go there ... These are African countries, Middle-Eastern countries. The only part of Asia that is developed/safe and will stay unchanged is Japan (but still, too many people in small area dependent on the system).


This leaves us to only one continent to look at ... and it is Europe. You may think that when SHTF all those Western countries go to the shitter ... not exactly. When the system breaks in a highly developed country, bad stuff happens, but it is quickly restored and replaced by a new one. Yes ... it will be more Fascist one but it will be safe (you can continue your daily life). The only countries on this continent that will be highly affected by riots and really "bad stuff" ... are the ones having the most of uneducated African and Middle-Eastern Immigrants (mostly France and England). Eastern Europe is much less developed and will take much more time to restore order and safety (you don't want to be in any highly populated city with desperate people without police ... even if its majority white).
This leaves us to only two highly developed countries in Europe, that are mildly populated and majority white ... and those are ----> Austria and Switzerland !!!


For those of you already living there .... CONGRATS!!!! you lucky bastards :D


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My wife is from Poland. Both parents are still living and would welcome us. I'm just an hour away from the Ozark mountains and have friends there. I think that is my best option. Hard to just pick up and move where you don't have any friends or family.
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My wife is from Poland. Both parents are still living and would welcome us. I'm just an hour away from the Ozark mountains and have friends there. I think that is my best option. Hard to just pick up and move where you don't have any friends or family.
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Yes ... Poland is the richest of the Eastern European countries and has lots of undeveloped land/forests ... and alllll white people ;D

that would be my second choice banana
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Baffin island
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gets real cold there, and has a short growing season, I would say you would need people helping you , unless you have been in that climate all your life, freezing or starving not much to look forward to.
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gets real cold there, and has a short growing season, I would say you would need people helping you , unless you have been in that climate all your life, freezing or starving not much to look forward to.
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agree

Baffin island ...fail
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Eastern Europe and Caucasus countries in Central Asia are probably the safest bet.

Expect hardship though, not burgers or manicure
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Eastern Europe and Caucasus countries in Central Asia are probably the safest bet.

Expect hardship though, not burgers or manicure
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Eastern Europe ... yes, if you live in the suburbs not in a city

Caucasus countries around Russia ... NO ... new "Soviet Union" coming soon.
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Baffin island
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like I said ... if you dont feel like leaving North America, go to Nova Scotia :D
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Other place I saw few of you talk about was the Pacific. Another REALLY bad idea. Australia and New Zealand had their gun rights taken away for a reason. At the start of WW3 (yes I do know this for a fact) both of these countries will be invaded by the Chinese. You don't want to be there when that happens ...






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Do you know what you're talking about?
You are a fucking tard.
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Africa will be the safest place you'll see the black dudes and duddettes will become the new majority in this world.
As the world surrenders to tyranny will you do the same thing?

Will you be able to stand your ground without faith?

Think about it!
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Other place I saw few of you talk about was the Pacific. Another REALLY bad idea. Australia and New Zealand had their gun rights taken away for a reason. At the start of WW3 (yes I do know this for a fact) both of these countries will be invaded by the Chinese. You don't want to be there when that happens ...








Do you know what you're talking about?
You are a fucking tard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129080


Can you own a gun now in Australia ???

Can Australias military protect itself from an invading Chinese army/navy ??? or will someone else protect them from that ???

If the answer to both is no ... I prove my point :D and I feel sorry for your country's future. Not that it will happen any time soon tounge
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Africa will be the safest place you'll see the black dudes and duddettes will become the new majority in this world.
 Quoting: resistor


keep dreaming rofl
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OK ... I saw many of you were trying to find the safest country/place to be when all hell breaks loose.

Austria and Switzerland !!!


For those of you already living there .... CONGRATS!!!! you lucky bastards :D


catdance
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This leaves us to only two highly developed countries in Europe, that are mildly populated and majority white ... and those are ----> Austria and Switzerland !!!
 Quoting: <Pontifus Maximus>


I agree with your conclusion, but I think the Scandinavian countries will fare reasonably well too, as long as you stay clear of the worst immigrant ghettos.

Some of the developed Asian countries might be good too, but that's not much of an option for most of us.

Restructuring to a poorer lifestyle and an even more Fascist society, but surviving. That's what's in the cards here, for the lucky ones. Many will just have to face the culling with a brave face...
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Other place I saw few of you talk about was the Pacific. Another REALLY bad idea. Australia and New Zealand had their gun rights taken away for a reason. At the start of WW3 (yes I do know this for a fact) both of these countries will be invaded by the Chinese. You don't want to be there when that happens ...








Do you know what you're talking about?
You are a fucking tard.


Can you own a gun now in Australia ???

Can Australias military protect itself from an invading Chinese army/navy ??? or will someone else protect them from that ???

If the answer to both is no ... I prove my point :D and I feel sorry for your country's future. Not that it will happen any time soon tounge
 Quoting: <Pontifus Maximus>


OP..you are a total TARD...

Us NOT having guns is WHAT is going to keep all US ALIVE...

Yes..we may get china walking around all over the place...fuck me..they already DO...and they are not all that bad these chineese..so long as ya dont piss em off.

But if you were to RESIST an army of million...with a few measly guns..what the FUCK do you think they will do??..yep..rape..pillage..KILL.

The chineese will march right in..hardly a shot fired..and sure..the government will change..and life will be fucking HARD for a while..but we will STILL be alive..while you gun toting fucked in the head arrogant stupid YANKS will try to rests an OVERWHELMING FORCE with your measly pea shooters..and be TOTALLY SLAUGHTERED.

An invading force shows NO MERCY to those who vehemently shoot back...and by shooting back..you DOOM yourselves.

I am NOT saying just lay down your guns and let em in...I am saying..the smart thing to realise...is that a dead citizen can NOT overthrow anything.

Let the fuckers come..get all settled in..get complacent..and then take the fuckers out from BENEATH..
But resist them at the very stard when they are all trigger happy..and you all DIE..then and there.
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City of Ponta Grossa, state of Parana - Brazil.
For sure the zumbies won't find this city.
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Russia.
Sorry. It is the only FREE country on the planet.
+ you have the added confidence of knowing that you are protected by the most highly sophisticated military and weaponry in the world.
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upstate South Carolina--foothills of Appalachians
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Russia.
Sorry. It is the only FREE country on the planet.
+ you have the added confidence of knowing that you are protected by the most highly sophisticated military and weaponry in the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116933


I must admit I'd never in a million years would have thought I'd hear an American say this twenty years ago...

Russia could get a little nuked though. Just a little.
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This leaves us to only two highly developed countries in Europe, that are mildly populated and majority white ... and those are ----> Austria and Switzerland !!!


I agree with your conclusion, but I think the Scandinavian countries will fare reasonably well too, as long as you stay clear of the worst immigrant ghettos.

Some of the developed Asian countries might be good too, but that's not much of an option for most of us.

Restructuring to a poorer lifestyle and an even more Fascist society, but surviving. That's what's in the cards here, for the lucky ones. Many will just have to face the culling with a brave face...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Yep ... any country in European Union will be safe from outside threat

and the ones with fewer ghettos will be the safest when SHTF

do you guys in Sweden have any black immigrants ??
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Kaua'i

we're already set up for self sufficiancy

if we get cut off from the rest of the world, no big deal. Life slows down. Plenty of horses, wild game, fish and food.

No cities - low population.
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Russia.
Sorry. It is the only FREE country on the planet.
+ you have the added confidence of knowing that you are protected by the most highly sophisticated military and weaponry in the world.


I must admit I'd never in a million years would have thought I'd hear an American say this twenty years ago...

Russia could get a little nuked though. Just a little.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


No nukes will ever fly ... ever ...

part of it is a hoax ... so dont count on no airborn nuclear war cuz it will never happen :D
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I envision micro-cosmic communities

safely existing in and around the globe.

It shouldn't be a national question,

as national boundries are illusionary.

The safest place to be when the SHTF

is At One With The Universe.

Atonement.


At-One-Ment

At-One-Mind

At One With The Universal Mind


The safest place to be is

here and now.


Your physical locality may change.

The safest physcial locality today,

may not be the safest physical locality tomorrow.

If you are plugged into the Universal Mind,

You will know when and where you will need to be.

eq

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Kaua'i

we're already set up for self sufficiancy

if we get cut off from the rest of the world, no big deal. Life slows down. Plenty of horses, wild game, fish and food.

No cities - low population.
 Quoting: Rev. Mother Nene


Looks good on paper. Not a single drawback?
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Russia.
Sorry. It is the only FREE country on the planet.
+ you have the added confidence of knowing that you are protected by the most highly sophisticated military and weaponry in the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116933


lol ... have you ever been to that corrupt shithole called Russia ?

and if you mean the "Scalar weapons" ... then you dont know a lot of things ... Russian military right now is a joke ... it will improve only after America starts to crumble (by design)
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I love my sailboat.
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Kaua'i

we're already set up for self sufficiancy

if we get cut off from the rest of the world, no big deal. Life slows down. Plenty of horses, wild game, fish and food.

No cities - low population.
 Quoting: Rev. Mother Nene


if you mean Hawaii ... then your wrong ...

same thing will happen to your island as the other pacific islands :P
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Can you own a gun now in Australia ???

Can Australias military protect itself from an invading Chinese army/navy ??? or will someone else protect them from that ???

If the answer to both is no ... I prove my point :D and I feel sorry for your country's future. Not that it will happen any time soon tounge
 Quoting: <Pontifus Maximus>


Yes.... you can own guns in australia. You just need to have a good reason to do so.

Good reasons include:

- Being a farmer or primary producer
- Be a member of of a gun club or shooters association
- Be involved in feral animal control
- knowing someone who has a rural property that will give you permission to shoot there.

Sure, there are a few hoops to jump through to get your license, but it is relatively easy to get a licence if you have a good reason to own a gun.
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This leaves us to only two highly developed countries in Europe, that are mildly populated and majority white ... and those are ----> Austria and Switzerland !!!


I agree with your conclusion, but I think the Scandinavian countries will fare reasonably well too, as long as you stay clear of the worst immigrant ghettos.

Some of the developed Asian countries might be good too, but that's not much of an option for most of us.

Restructuring to a poorer lifestyle and an even more Fascist society, but surviving. That's what's in the cards here, for the lucky ones. Many will just have to face the culling with a brave face...


Yep ... any country in European Union will be safe from outside threat

and the ones with fewer ghettos will be the safest when SHTF

do you guys in Sweden have any black immigrants ??
 Quoting: <Pontifus Maximus>


Yes a few, mostly Somali. Most of the immigrants are middle Easterners though. There's a bunch of them everywhere. But they're concentrated in ghettos for the most part. Twenty years from now we'll be overrun by immigrants if things continue as they are, but if TSHTF soon it's not going to be that bad after all. There's only ONE immigrant family living on my street for example. A few immigrants here and there don't cause any problems, it's when they cluster together things get ugly.





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