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Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?

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Emperor Kenton
6/29/2005 4:10 PM

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Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?
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Ever seen the pic of Haley´s comet as taken during the Giotto Mission:

[link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Pic of nucleus:
[link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

When they first broadcast these images on TV it created quite a stir. Peering into the nucleus was like looking into an inkwell, a void.


Better pic of Haley´s Comet Nucleus

[link to seds.lpl.arizona.edu]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Rex
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Dude, that´s a trailer.

Have you seen the movie "Lifeforce"?
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
idol harobed
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

EK, what did make you think Haley comet is made of anti-matter?
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Rex
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

If I don´t mind, does it matter?
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
old lady
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

You are possessed by the devil, BOY!!! Now STFU.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Dude, that´s a trailer.
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[link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

You are possessed by the devil, BOY!!!
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Just wearing my Ol Nick suit, son.

Helps to understand the imps at NASA
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

It´s called contrast Kenton, you dork. Just because something appears dark in an image doesn´t mean that it´s made of anti-matter (or that it´s even particularly ´dark´).

Talk about speculative leaps!

You are a master of the unjustified assumption.
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

It´s called contrast Kenton, you dork. Just because something appears dark in an image doesn´t mean that it´s made of anti-matter (or that it´s even particularly ´dark´).
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Show me another comet nucleus, the real thing, not the NASA artist´s snowcone renderings

QUOTH:
"We have many ideas but not many constraints on the interior structure of cometary nuclei. What little we know is inferred from observations of comets that split, and from our limited knowledge of the way in which comets accrete in the protoplanetary nebula."
[link to www.ifa.hawaii.edu]

"The composition of the nucleus is determined by measuring the composition of the coma. We know nothing directly about the interior structure."
[link to www.ifa.hawaii.edu]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

"Show me another comet nucleus, the real thing, not the NASA artist´s snowcone renderings"

Nah, YOU show ME some evidence to back up your ludicrous idea that the Halley nucleus might be made of anti-matter. If you can do that I´ll engage you in a serious discussion, but if you can´t I´ll just add this thread to the growing list of Kenton´s idiotic brain-farts.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Kent if the comet is truly anty-mater you will have a bomb with a yield of 2 billion megatons.

Even we will feel it as the EMP pulse will fry every electronics in the solar systems ...

Even Ufos will be screwd !

and we will have a second sun 100 times biger than our own for a few seconds .....

If jupiter is near it may even Ignite it ....

that if it were pure Anty mater ....

Else as Profet I risk Impalement ....

s226 ← Equine Impaler # 36


worshipcow
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

[link to www.matter-antimatter.com]

"When galactic antimatter enters our solar system, antimatter is called comets. The dusty-ice model of comets was dispelled when the European Space Agency spacecraft took pictures of Halley´s Comet. The nucleus was blacker than coal except for the bright area where matter & antimatter annihilations were producing the light. A recent analysis of Borrelly´s Comet has found that the nucleus exhibits no trace of water ice or any water-bearing minerals. Since water was observed in the comet´s coma & tail, the water could have only come from the solar wind and interstellar dust particles."

Norm Hansen

n April 2002, Mr. Hansen announced at the joint meeting of the American Physical Society and American Astronomical Society that comets are natural sources of antimatter, identified 108 antimatter elements, and developed a Periodic Table of Matter-Antimatter Elements.

Anti-hydrogen was identified by CERN in 1995. Antimatter is a mirror image of matter and can be a solid, liquid, gas or plasma. Like matter, antimatter is composed of elements. Each of the antimatter element´s nuclear, physical, and chemical properties have been defined to such an extent that people know almost as much about antimatter as matter. See www.matter-antimatter.com.

Mr. Hansen worked at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory for U.S. Department of Energy for over fifteen years. He was involved in the design, construction, and operation of accelerators that made antimatter, detectors that observed the matter-antimatter energy signatures, and computer facilities that analyzed the data for elementary particles. He was DOE Project Manager for $60 million D-Zero Detector, $23 Million Linac Upgrade Project, $24.6 Million Feynman Computer Facility, and $48.8 Million Tevatron II Project. Scientists used the D-Zero and CDF detectors to discover Top Quark and are searching for Higgs boson(s). He mentored Fermilab Project Managers on hundreds of small projects.

Education
Mr. Hansen has a Bachelors & Masters of Science, Masters in Business Administration, plus 25 years of experience working for government, business and education organizations. He is a Professional Engineer and Certified Energy Manager.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Disinfo Agent
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

kent. forgive me if im not quite getting the jist of this but have you ever been down the road in ice and been dazzled by light off the sun - the term is snowblind ?

well would you agree that the sun could quite possibly have been shining on the comet and also that since it is mostly made of ice then that ice would have been reflecting the light and giving us that nice piccy we have there ?


just an idea
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

"QUOTH:
"We have many ideas but not many constraints on the interior structure of cometary nuclei. What little we know is inferred from observations of comets that split, and from our limited knowledge of the way in which comets accrete in the protoplanetary nebula."
[link to www.ifa.hawaii.edu]

"The composition of the nucleus is determined by measuring the composition of the coma. We know nothing directly about the interior structure."
[link to www.ifa.hawaii.edu]

Neither of those quotes say anything about anti-matter. We might not know exactly what´s in all comets (although scientists can make pretty good educated guesses - unlike Kenton), but we can be pretty sure that the ones in our solar system at least contain matter, not anti-matter, because everything else around here seems to be made of matter.
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

but we can be pretty sure that the ones in our solar system at least contain matter, not anti-matter, because everything else around here seems to be made of matter.
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You forgot your sources, lad... got any?

One More time:

"When galactic antimatter enters our solar system, antimatter is called comets. The dusty-ice model of comets was dispelled when the European Space Agency spacecraft took pictures of Halley´s Comet. The nucleus was blacker than coal except for the bright area where matter & antimatter annihilations were producing the light. A recent analysis of Borrelly´s Comet has found that the nucleus exhibits no trace of water ice or any water-bearing minerals. Since water was observed in the comet´s coma & tail, the water could have only come from the solar wind and interstellar dust particles."

[link to www.matter-antimatter.com]

Quoting a scientist, Norm Hansen, that directed projects at the big accelerators, Fermilab, Tevatron and others.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

""When galactic antimatter enters our solar system, antimatter is called comets. The dusty-ice model of comets was dispelled when the European Space Agency spacecraft took pictures of Halley´s Comet. The nucleus was blacker than coal except for the bright area where matter & antimatter annihilations were producing the light. A recent analysis of Borrelly´s Comet has found that the nucleus exhibits no trace of water ice or any water-bearing minerals. Since water was observed in the comet´s coma & tail, the water could have only come from the solar wind and interstellar dust particles."

[link to www.matter-antimatter.com]

That ´theory´ is not generally accepted by scientists. The only mention of antimatter comets is on kook sites. It´s more pseudoscience Kenton, and you know it.
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

That ´theory´ is not generally accepted by scientists. The only mention of antimatter comets is on kook sites. It´s more pseudoscience Kenton, and you know it.
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Now you´re outgassing.

The theory comes from a scientist that has MADE antimatter.

QUOTH:
"During the last century, Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet broke up and the fragments. The collides with Jupiter produced 21 explosions equivalent to over 200 million Megatons of TNT. In 1908, a fragment from Encke´s comet hit the earth´s atmosphere in Russian Siberia and exploded with an energy of equivalent to over 30 Megatons of TNT."

Pretty good reaction for a popsicle.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

So Kenton, if any comet contains even a small amount of anti-matter, how come it doesn´t immediately annihilate itself when it meets some of the matter that we KNOW (from previous experiments/landings) is there?
Disinfo Agent
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

why would the nucleaus of a snowball in space be made from antimatter ?
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Rex
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Wow. Antimatter is a solid. I need to burn my books.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

"Now you´re outgassing."

No I´m not, I´m stating the truth, unlike you. Provide a link to any site where general acceptance of that belief (i.e. that comets consist of anti-matter) is shown. That theory is not regarded as scietifically credible, and you know it, and you are trying to pretend that it has more credibility than it has. You are deliberately trying to mislead people, which I have noticed is your usual modus-operandi.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Just another reason for Kenton to try to promote his site...

Cyberspaceorbit.com (Kenton I expect a check for the plug)

The same way that he was so sure of PX in May 2003 and Let´s not forget the big Galeleo explosion. After this he will disapeer back to his cave and wait for the next thing.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

"Quoting a scientist, Norm Hansen, that directed projects at the big accelerators, Fermilab, Tevatron and others."

Doesn´t mean he´s right. You´ll need more than that to support your wacko ideas.
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

I´ve listed my sources, where are yours?
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Galeleo explosion
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That´s "Galileo" explosion

Not a POSSIBLE matter/antimatter reaction like Shoemaker-Levy 9
[link to www.matter-antimatter.com]

The Galileo cheap-stunt just made a dinky black spot a few times bigger than earth.

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

Oh and by the way I still collect and keep tabs the many PX theories, especially those published in the Harvard Abstracts by Dr. Harrington and many other academics. I´ve never made a prediction as to what PX is or when it will arrive if ever.

Most interested in Sedna...
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Dr P
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

The optical properties of anti-matter are exactly the same as those of ordinary matter. You cannot distinguish one from the other by looking. It is impossible to "identify anti-matter elements" in a comet from spectral data. And the Periodic Table for antimatter would be identical to the Periodic Table for ordinary matter. Furthermore, if Halley´s (note spelling) Comet were composed of anti-matter, it would be emitting gamma radiation from the annihilation reactions occurring when it was struck by ordinary-matter meteorites.

Hansen is a crackpot (like Steadman). Any member of the American Physical Society...and anyone who can pay the dues can be a member...can present a paper at an APS meeting. Some of these papers make Hansen´s bit of crackpottery look tame.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Hi DrP. After reading your statement above

"The optical properties of anti-matter are exactly the same as those of ordinary matter. You cannot distinguish one from the other by looking. It is impossible to "identify anti-matter elements" in a comet from spectral data. And the Periodic Table for antimatter would be identical to the Periodic Table for ordinary matter."

Are you trying to say that it is impossible to actually know if comets are composed of anti-matter.

So if I misunderstood it.
Dr P
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Not quite, AC 1144. It is impossible to tell matter from anti-matter by looking. But an anti-matter object could be identified by the gamma rays, with characteristic energies, that it would emit when struck by ordinary-matter meteorites. No comet is known to emit such gamma rays.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Emperor Kenton
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Halley´s [Brit] or Haley´s [Yank]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Thank You DrP.

But have any comets actually ever been checked to confirm that they are not comprised of anti-matter
Dr P
12/8/2005 10:14 AM
Re: Haley´s Comet Nucleus a thing or an anti-thing?Quote

Steadman, when you´re caught saying something stupid (a not-infrequent occurrence), you might have the grace to admit it. Halley´s name is spelled only one way.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
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