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Obama wants to Arm the Chinese!

 
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Obama wants to Arm the Chinese!
Obama wants to export weapons to China!

[link to www.india-defence.com]

"American Weapons for China - President Obama Pushes for Sale of C-130s to China
2010-10-11 In a complete reversal of decades of U.S. policy on geopolitics and strategic security, U.S. President Barack Obama has written to the House of Representatives and to the President of the Senate seeking a termination of suspension of Arms Exports to China and to allow the sale of C-130..."

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Meanwhile, the disarming of the citizens marches on.

Smells like we are being set up for take down.
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10/14/2010 03:28 PM
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Of course a far-left America-hating radical wants to make Red China the most powerful nation in the world.
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Wonder about the perks and kickbacks. George Soros and Maurice Strong who resides in China probably made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Deja vu just like the 90s when Clintons committed treason
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Read the comments, the INDIANS are pissed!

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his deal could potential open up the flood gates for Israeli and European arms sales to China.
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Kkengaiah [Moderator] 3 days ago
Obama is INSENSITIVE to Indian sensitivies. I am not sure why he wants to appease the Chicoms.
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Anil S [Moderator] 3 days ago
IT is good deal.. Once they get it, they will reverse engineer this and develop own their own..
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Tito [Moderator] 3 days ago
The most anti-Indian US president since Nixon.
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ShreyasN [Moderator] 1 day ago in reply to Tito
You are totally right. It has proven how he has been helping Pakistan in the name war against terror instead of knowing Pakistan using this aid against India. India should cancel all defence deal with US & should not pursue any defence deal in his regime instead India should open the door for domestic private sector than pushing hard DRDO & HAL who take decades to invent anything
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Pawankoyar [Moderator] 3 days ago
obama get ready to hear the news " china makes xerox of c-130 but it is not c-130"
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Rajan [Moderator] 3 days ago
This guy is coming to India and expects to get big orders for the very same US firms who are seeking to sell the very same planes to China!! This is some audacity!!! Well as long as our Govt. keeps on placing huge contracts to US firms without any reciprocal commitment from US to be at least sensitive to India's interests, where is the need for US to be sensitive to India's interests?
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Rnjnsrkr [Moderator] 3 days ago
Mr.Obama taking every decision against India from visa to Kasmir issue, he certainly understood that India will be bigger but neutral power player in global politics in near future and will advocate for multi-polar world that is a big threat .I also read that he advocated for selling B2
to China but that was rejected for security concern.
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Aries_firesea [Moderator] 3 days ago
Well it wont be surprise if you hear they are selling F-22 RAPTOR to CHINA sooner or later.Cause for some people all they want is MONEY NATION comes second.
GOD SAVE U.S.A/ASIA
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Aks [Moderator] 3 days ago
India must cancel the C17 and c130 deal if the news is true
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abhinaba [Moderator] 3 days ago
this Dumba** is completely out of his mind....wat utter bollox......
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Jay [Moderator] 2 days ago
well.. America is about to show it colours :). Always America used to sell arms to opposing armies thus profiting itself. Didnt you notice President Obama saying, 'American national interest' :)). Well 30k jobs on the way ;)
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Singh [Moderator] 2 days ago
Do not buy american planes for the MMRCA! Go with the Europeans and get full Transfer Of Technology and get them to agree to set up a production line in India. In the end, everyone looks out for themselves, and the Europeans can do the same as the Americans. India needs to get the Technology and develop it's own aerospace industry. India must stand proudly on her own one day, this must be national urgent priority number one. The crooked babus in Delhi need to be voted out ASAP as they are incapable of formulating and promoting India's national security interests. Obama and others take India for granted as we have a proven history of gutless national governments. Why blame others for your own problems? As a country, do not trust another country! I could go on and on.
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LiveS [Moderator] 2 days ago
It should be interesting to note that Russia too has been supplying advanced offensive weapons to China for decades. Reality is that India doesn't have the kind of leverage over U.S./Russia that China does.

We should remain pragmatic and realistic and look to counter any threats. The only concern here is that this *may* signal the ending of the Western arms embargo on China which would enable the Chinese to gain a technological edge over India in a decade / decade and a half.
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Singh [Moderator] 2 days ago
The way things are going for the Democratic Party in the US, largely due to the performance of Mr. Obama (good with speeches only), there is a good chance that the Republicans will have the next President of the US. The Republicans are also expected to win a majority in the Senate elections at the end of 2010. So, it is likely that Obama's request to export the C-130 to china will be turned down.
But India must learn a lesson from this and not pin it's hopes on any particular country. She must do what is in her self interests.
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LiveS [Moderator] 1 day ago in reply to Singh
Agree with your comments. Interesting to see how the elections turn out later this year.
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Eagle [Moderator] 2 days ago
Not good,Obama is hurting India's interest.If USA start suppling arms to China then it has great strategic implication.
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i would only ok this if he made $700trill on the deal and kept all the landing gear or ignition switches.

if you sell guns to your enemy it should never be firing pins included.
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10/14/2010 03:32 PM
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Bush’s Twenty-Billion Dollar Arms Sale to Saudi Arabia
[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Republicans are much better chuckle
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Let's hope he doesn't leg them too.
Pearl Harbor was an inside job.
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shocked
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No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article.

Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right

[link to www.ndtv.com]
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Of course a far-left America-hating radical wants to make Red China the most powerful nation in the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129495

THIS...
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Rajan [Moderator] 3 days ago
"This guy is coming to India and expects to get big orders for the very same US firms who are seeking to sell the very same planes to China!! This is some audacity!!! Well as long as our Govt. keeps on placing huge contracts to US firms without any reciprocal commitment from US to be at least sensitive to India's interests, where is the need for US to be sensitive to India's interests?"

-Obama is to go to India in November. Lucy u got some splaining to do!
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Wonder about the perks and kickbacks. George Soros and Maurice Strong who resides in China probably made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Deja vu just like the 90s when Clintons committed treason
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819985

And THIS.
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No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article.

Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right

[link to www.ndtv.com]
 Quoting: Gife Awk 1115288



When it comes to metal - China doesn't really make anything worth a crap - and that is a fact
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Obama wants to export weapons to China!

[link to www.india-defence.com]

"American Weapons for China - President Obama Pushes for Sale of C-130s to China
2010-10-11 In a complete reversal of decades of U.S. policy on geopolitics and strategic security, U.S. President Barack Obama has written to the House of Representatives and to the President of the Senate seeking a termination of suspension of Arms Exports to China and to allow the sale of C-130..."

(50% or less)

Meanwhile, the disarming of the citizens marches on.

Smells like we are being set up for take down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819985

bump bump
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No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article.

Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right

[link to www.ndtv.com]



When it comes to metal - China doesn't really make anything worth a crap - and that is a fact
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 496282


You are correct. A bicycle mechanic here in the states had to explain to a sales rep. selling to the Chinese the basics of making decent nuts and bolts - what degrees etc...
bed
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Chips ahoy!
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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Chips ahoy!
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Hey bed, how is your dad?
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No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article.

Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right

[link to www.ndtv.com]



When it comes to metal - China doesn't really make anything worth a crap - and that is a fact


You are correct. A bicycle mechanic here in the states had to explain to a sales rep. selling to the Chinese the basics of making decent nuts and bolts - what degrees etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819985


I find both of these statements very interesting. Any piece of capital equipment is only as good as the nuts and bolts that hold it together. Given these two statements...Is China really the threat they appear to be?
If they can't make decent grade small scale hardware then I tend to think no. (Pending more research)
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Chips ahoy!


Hey bed, how is your dad?
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leggo.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

[link to www.livius.org]
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Great, the Chinese can use our planes to transport their troops to our shores.

wtf
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:burnit\

Mods must be busy, could someone else start a new thread? This is pinworthy
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LOL

You knee jerk jokers.

They are fucking transports!

Hardly something that will destroy the nation.
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It's official. Obama belongs in mental hospital.
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Has the NWO minions picked commie china to be the dominate nation in the NWO? Yes they have. Obama, is a great operative to engineer their progress!
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Bush’s Twenty-Billion Dollar Arms Sale to Saudi Arabia
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Republicans are much better chuckle
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Barack Obama to authorise record $60bn Saudi arms sale

Biggest arms deal in US history will shore up a Gulf ally against Iran threat, but angers Tehran and worries Israel
[link to www.cbsnews.com]

OB is arming everyone, while disarming America, and Americans!

Our enemies will be well armed, when they invade us soon.

Thanks again to all you how voted for this traitor!
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*who
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In response to a comment made about the C-130 being based on obsolete '50s tech is somewhat accurate in regards to overall design/airframe. My question, what high tech navigation, communication, electronic countermeasures,radars, etc would be included that could be reveresed engineered to come and haunt us? Also, China has had problems developing engines for their indigenous fighters, could US tech be reverse engineered as well? Also, what advanced composite materials would be handed over as well?
The C-130 from the 60's isn't in the same league as today's high tech uber modern version.

Besides, Russia has a similiar sized plane with almost double the cargo capacity and longer range that China could either buy or pirate anyways. Russia always has made good cargo aircraft. So to my armchair, obese, gravy and beer soaked brain- this issue isn't about cargo, it is about tech transfer. The C-130 is just the benign "vehicle" to provide it. A reverse trojan horse, so to speak.

Didn't Clinton give the Chicoms missile tech as well?
Is there a pattern here?
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Obama wants to export weapons to China!

[link to www.india-defence.com]

"American Weapons for China - President Obama Pushes for Sale of C-130s to China
2010-10-11 In a complete reversal of decades of U.S. policy on geopolitics and strategic security, U.S. President Barack Obama has written to the House of Representatives and to the President of the Senate seeking a termination of suspension of Arms Exports to China and to allow the sale of C-130..."

(50% or less)

Meanwhile, the disarming of the citizens marches on.

Smells like we are being set up for take down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819985

this says c 130's. Not exactly weapons. And the chinese have weapons greater than ours already, maybe just not c 130's
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Blackmail payment? Do this or DYX is going down!

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