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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 819985 United States 10/14/2010 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the comments, the INDIANS are pissed! # his deal could potential open up the flood gates for Israeli and European arms sales to China. Flag 4 people liked this. Like Reply Reply # Kkengaiah [Moderator] 3 days ago Obama is INSENSITIVE to Indian sensitivies. I am not sure why he wants to appease the Chicoms. Flag 1 person liked this. Like Reply Reply # Anil S [Moderator] 3 days ago IT is good deal.. Once they get it, they will reverse engineer this and develop own their own.. Flag 3 people liked this. Like Reply Reply # Tito [Moderator] 3 days ago The most anti-Indian US president since Nixon. Flag 9 people liked this. Like Reply Reply # ShreyasN [Moderator] 1 day ago in reply to Tito You are totally right. It has proven how he has been helping Pakistan in the name war against terror instead of knowing Pakistan using this aid against India. India should cancel all defence deal with US & should not pursue any defence deal in his regime instead India should open the door for domestic private sector than pushing hard DRDO & HAL who take decades to invent anything Flag Like Reply Reply # Pawankoyar [Moderator] 3 days ago obama get ready to hear the news " china makes xerox of c-130 but it is not c-130" Flag 3 people liked this. Like Reply Reply # Rajan [Moderator] 3 days ago This guy is coming to India and expects to get big orders for the very same US firms who are seeking to sell the very same planes to China!! This is some audacity!!! Well as long as our Govt. keeps on placing huge contracts to US firms without any reciprocal commitment from US to be at least sensitive to India's interests, where is the need for US to be sensitive to India's interests? Flag 3 people liked this. Like Reply Reply # Rnjnsrkr [Moderator] 3 days ago Mr.Obama taking every decision against India from visa to Kasmir issue, he certainly understood that India will be bigger but neutral power player in global politics in near future and will advocate for multi-polar world that is a big threat .I also read that he advocated for selling B2 to China but that was rejected for security concern. Flag Like Reply Reply # Aries_firesea [Moderator] 3 days ago Well it wont be surprise if you hear they are selling F-22 RAPTOR to CHINA sooner or later.Cause for some people all they want is MONEY NATION comes second. GOD SAVE U.S.A/ASIA Flag Like Reply Reply # Aks [Moderator] 3 days ago India must cancel the C17 and c130 deal if the news is true Flag 1 person liked this. Like Reply Reply # abhinaba [Moderator] 3 days ago this Dumba** is completely out of his mind....wat utter bollox...... Flag Like Reply Reply # Jay [Moderator] 2 days ago well.. America is about to show it colours :). Always America used to sell arms to opposing armies thus profiting itself. Didnt you notice President Obama saying, 'American national interest' :)). Well 30k jobs on the way ;) Flag Like Reply Reply # Singh [Moderator] 2 days ago Do not buy american planes for the MMRCA! Go with the Europeans and get full Transfer Of Technology and get them to agree to set up a production line in India. In the end, everyone looks out for themselves, and the Europeans can do the same as the Americans. India needs to get the Technology and develop it's own aerospace industry. India must stand proudly on her own one day, this must be national urgent priority number one. The crooked babus in Delhi need to be voted out ASAP as they are incapable of formulating and promoting India's national security interests. Obama and others take India for granted as we have a proven history of gutless national governments. Why blame others for your own problems? As a country, do not trust another country! I could go on and on. Flag 1 person liked this. Like Reply Reply # LiveS [Moderator] 2 days ago It should be interesting to note that Russia too has been supplying advanced offensive weapons to China for decades. Reality is that India doesn't have the kind of leverage over U.S./Russia that China does. We should remain pragmatic and realistic and look to counter any threats. The only concern here is that this *may* signal the ending of the Western arms embargo on China which would enable the Chinese to gain a technological edge over India in a decade / decade and a half. Flag Like Reply Reply # Singh [Moderator] 2 days ago The way things are going for the Democratic Party in the US, largely due to the performance of Mr. Obama (good with speeches only), there is a good chance that the Republicans will have the next President of the US. The Republicans are also expected to win a majority in the Senate elections at the end of 2010. So, it is likely that Obama's request to export the C-130 to china will be turned down. But India must learn a lesson from this and not pin it's hopes on any particular country. She must do what is in her self interests. Flag 1 person liked this. Like Reply Reply # LiveS [Moderator] 1 day ago in reply to Singh Agree with your comments. Interesting to see how the elections turn out later this year. Flag Like Reply Reply # Eagle [Moderator] 2 days ago Not good,Obama is hurting India's interest.If USA start suppling arms to China then it has great strategic implication. |
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Gife Awk User ID: 1115288 United States 10/14/2010 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article. Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right [link to www.ndtv.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 819985 United States 10/14/2010 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This guy is coming to India and expects to get big orders for the very same US firms who are seeking to sell the very same planes to China!! This is some audacity!!! Well as long as our Govt. keeps on placing huge contracts to US firms without any reciprocal commitment from US to be at least sensitive to India's interests, where is the need for US to be sensitive to India's interests?" -Obama is to go to India in November. Lucy u got some splaining to do! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 496282 United States 10/14/2010 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article. Quoting: Gife Awk 1115288Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right [link to www.ndtv.com] When it comes to metal - China doesn't really make anything worth a crap - and that is a fact |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1026437 United States 10/14/2010 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama wants to export weapons to China! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819985[link to www.india-defence.com] "American Weapons for China - President Obama Pushes for Sale of C-130s to China 2010-10-11 In a complete reversal of decades of U.S. policy on geopolitics and strategic security, U.S. President Barack Obama has written to the House of Representatives and to the President of the Senate seeking a termination of suspension of Arms Exports to China and to allow the sale of C-130..." (50% or less) Meanwhile, the disarming of the citizens marches on. Smells like we are being set up for take down. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 819985 United States 10/14/2010 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 496282Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right [link to www.ndtv.com] When it comes to metal - China doesn't really make anything worth a crap - and that is a fact You are correct. A bicycle mechanic here in the states had to explain to a sales rep. selling to the Chinese the basics of making decent nuts and bolts - what degrees etc... |
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Gife Awk User ID: 1115288 United States 10/14/2010 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder India is not pleased about this. Notice the date of the article. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819985Seriously, the plane is based on 1950s technology, you would think the Chinese could, would, simply build their own version. Hell, there are enough of them around the world in foreign service, they could simply buy one and copy it. Something about this doesn't smell right [link to www.ndtv.com] When it comes to metal - China doesn't really make anything worth a crap - and that is a fact You are correct. A bicycle mechanic here in the states had to explain to a sales rep. selling to the Chinese the basics of making decent nuts and bolts - what degrees etc... I find both of these statements very interesting. Any piece of capital equipment is only as good as the nuts and bolts that hold it together. Given these two statements...Is China really the threat they appear to be? If they can't make decent grade small scale hardware then I tend to think no. (Pending more research) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1121571 United States 10/15/2010 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bush’s Twenty-Billion Dollar Arms Sale to Saudi Arabia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129867[link to www.globalresearch.ca] Republicans are much better Barack Obama to authorise record $60bn Saudi arms sale Biggest arms deal in US history will shore up a Gulf ally against Iran threat, but angers Tehran and worries Israel [link to www.cbsnews.com] OB is arming everyone, while disarming America, and Americans! Our enemies will be well armed, when they invade us soon. Thanks again to all you how voted for this traitor! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 983722 Canada 10/15/2010 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In response to a comment made about the C-130 being based on obsolete '50s tech is somewhat accurate in regards to overall design/airframe. My question, what high tech navigation, communication, electronic countermeasures,radars, etc would be included that could be reveresed engineered to come and haunt us? Also, China has had problems developing engines for their indigenous fighters, could US tech be reverse engineered as well? Also, what advanced composite materials would be handed over as well? The C-130 from the 60's isn't in the same league as today's high tech uber modern version. Besides, Russia has a similiar sized plane with almost double the cargo capacity and longer range that China could either buy or pirate anyways. Russia always has made good cargo aircraft. So to my armchair, obese, gravy and beer soaked brain- this issue isn't about cargo, it is about tech transfer. The C-130 is just the benign "vehicle" to provide it. A reverse trojan horse, so to speak. Didn't Clinton give the Chicoms missile tech as well? Is there a pattern here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 771576 Canada 10/15/2010 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama wants to export weapons to China! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819985[link to www.india-defence.com] "American Weapons for China - President Obama Pushes for Sale of C-130s to China 2010-10-11 In a complete reversal of decades of U.S. policy on geopolitics and strategic security, U.S. President Barack Obama has written to the House of Representatives and to the President of the Senate seeking a termination of suspension of Arms Exports to China and to allow the sale of C-130..." (50% or less) Meanwhile, the disarming of the citizens marches on. Smells like we are being set up for take down. this says c 130's. Not exactly weapons. And the chinese have weapons greater than ours already, maybe just not c 130's |
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