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Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?

 
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Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
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Last Edited by Johny777 on 10/15/2010 07:46 PM
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
I have wondered this myself.

Here are some ideas: Most of us here in the US are of British Isles, German, or other western European ancestry.

Our history books here pretty much concentrate on what was the old Roman Empire, and what became of it.

During the 1950s and 60s the old Soviet Union and satellite states were treated with mistrust and were largely a mystery to us.

Poland has a wonderful and fascinating history.

Decades ago the popular historical novelist James Michener wrote a magnificent novel (called simply "Poland") about your country from prehistoric times up to the 20th century.
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10/15/2010 07:51 PM
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
I for one love the Polish. They work hard and have beautiful women.
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
Im very grateful for Chopin
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
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not sure what you mean...care to explain?

anyway in the town where i grew up they always honoured the polish veterans of ww2 and we had a polish exchange with the football club and stuff...the vodka was always very good...
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
I know that there is many books about Poland in U.S (separate case is the number of copies) but Poland seems to be absent in the mass culture I mean that you force in your films names like: people from the Middle - East Europe , the Republic of Cracossia (Cracow we have such a city and in 1981 we had police state - introduced by Jaruzelski) or things like Poles are more less Russians , polish guerrillas are more less russians guerillas (ww2) and so on. I can bet that the strong majority of U.S citizens don't know that the polish constitution was the first in Europe.
People in fear don't believe in reality , but in this what in their opinion should be.
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
My grandfather was born in Pommern...in East Prussia...NOW part of Poland.
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I for one love the Polish. They work hard and have beautiful women.
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agreed bump
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You better believe they do.

My great grandfather came from Poland in 1909 and settled in this country. I don't even know one word of my native language. It took me many years to learn how Poland was totally dismissed from history. Most of Europe was Poland at one time. Do we ever hear about that? NO, the second voyage of the Mayflower brought Polish architects to Plymouth rock because the English did not know how to build their own houses, (they had to be taught how to eat by the natives). You NEVER hear that Poland had an Elected King when the English were still in caves and painting themselves blue. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. You never hear that Poland had more Nobelmen and woman than any other country in the world. You never hear about the fighting abilities of the Polish mounted soldiers or the wings they attached to their horses to frighten the enemy. The Polish National Anthem was named after one of my clan members and I am proud to be a Pole, even though I consider myself in exile and will never return the the land my family fought and died for.
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 Quoting: Johny777



Nobody cares enough about your country to work that hard.



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Im very grateful for Chopin
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Yes, Chopin is awesome.
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
Agreed. I don't remember learning too much about Poland's history in school, other than their involvement with World War II, which was pretty significant.

After WWII, though, Poland became a communist country and remained so until 1989. With the Cold War going on, I think it kind of got lumped in (in people's minds) with the Soviet Union or only referred to regionally as "Eastern Europe" even though Poland is obviously a bit different from its neighbors.

Sorry about that. No reason we can't all be friends now, right?

I wouldn't take it personally, though. The U.S. doesn't even cover it's own history in schools very well. I didn't know that Abraham Lincoln was pro-slavery until recently...
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You're no better than other people.
Not bad either.
We're all the same.

But...
If you want me seem more intelligent (just kidding)
Keep the memory of Maria Sklodowska in hell.

Otherwise ..
thank you again to exist.
Merci
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
I know that there is many books about Poland in U.S (separate case is the number of copies) but Poland seems to be absent in the mass culture I mean that you force in your films names like: people from the Middle - East Europe , the Republic of Cracossia (Cracow we have such a city and in 1981 we had police state - introduced by Jaruzelski) or things like Poles are more less Russians , polish guerrillas are more less russians guerillas (ww2) and so on. I can bet that the strong majority of U.S citizens don't know that the polish constitution was the first in Europe.
 Quoting: Johny777

well..... seems to me that now the world is in the shadow of a one world order, the people of poland would be greatful not to be in their spotlight.......

america is facing a battle of political correctness and green crap now and our economy is fixing to tank. seems that the polish people would start taking precautions along their borders to insure whats happening in greece and could happen in germany doesnt seep in to their borders, but, this type of actions would be viewed as politically incorrect and thrust into the worlds spotlight.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
Interesting question OP. Now I am very curious.
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
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Not taboo.

Most Americans are ignorant. Poland get a small blurb (few paragraphs)in a history book. Mostly related to WW II.

They figure, if it was important, we would hear more about it.

GLPers are the ones who questioned this and augmented their learning after the state indoctrination.
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is an inspiration to me. They made other countries of their time look like totally backwards, slaving fools.
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
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 Quoting: Johny777

Tell us a story about Poland, then. What would you like us to know?
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
My grandfather was born in Pommern...in East Prussia...NOW part of Poland.
 Quoting: weegie

So were my grandparents, although they were from Silesia, now part of Poland as well.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
It was Western Historians who found out the truth about the Katyn Woods incident. The rest of your history just seems to be you getting invaded from all angles.
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
Most Americans are ignorant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044765



Most Americans are busy.

We don't have time for provincial fruit-loopery.



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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
Poland once extended from the Baltic to the Black Sea.

I heard once that Hebrew word for Poland is "Polin" which means "God dwells here".
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Impressionists never impressed me.
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Keep the memory of Maria Sklodowska in hell.
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and you keep in hell the memory of Bonaparte
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
My grandfather was born in Pommern...in East Prussia...NOW part of Poland.
 Quoting: weegie


do you feel pain?

Czesi maja takie powiedzenie , co se stalo to se ne wroci
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You better believe they do.

My great grandfather came from Poland in 1909 and settled in this country. I don't even know one word of my native language. It took me many years to learn how Poland was totally dismissed from history. Most of Europe was Poland at one time. Do we ever hear about that? NO, the second voyage of the Mayflower brought Polish architects to Plymouth rock because the English did not know how to build their own houses, (they had to be taught how to eat by the natives). You NEVER hear that Poland had an Elected King when the English were still in caves and painting themselves blue. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. You never hear that Poland had more Nobelmen and woman than any other country in the world. You never hear about the fighting abilities of the Polish mounted soldiers or the wings they attached to their horses to frighten the enemy. The Polish National Anthem was named after one of my clan members and I am proud to be a Pole, even though I consider myself in exile and will never return the the land my family fought and died for.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111794


Never told?

YOU have to be told?

All that info has always been available IF you were interested.

You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish.

What?

Maybe if you were upper class. The common people were serfs that were more or less owned by the upper class.
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 Quoting: Johny777

The history writters in the west are the same sort who wrote Soviet "history." Poland, the ones who brought down Utopia, have been air brushed. Plus you have not surrendered your moral princials to the Western humanist elite as ordered. Be glad they hate you. Celebrate it!
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Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why?
Most Americans are ignorant.



Most Americans are busy.

We don't have time for provincial fruit-loopery.



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1131933


It can be the source as you call it: "...that silly mistakes..."
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You better believe they do.

My great grandfather came from Poland in 1909 and settled in this country. I don't even know one word of my native language. It took me many years to learn how Poland was totally dismissed from history. Most of Europe was Poland at one time. Do we ever hear about that? NO, the second voyage of the Mayflower brought Polish architects to Plymouth rock because the English did not know how to build their own houses, (they had to be taught how to eat by the natives). You NEVER hear that Poland had an Elected King when the English were still in caves and painting themselves blue. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. You never hear that Poland had more Nobelmen and woman than any other country in the world. You never hear about the fighting abilities of the Polish mounted soldiers or the wings they attached to their horses to frighten the enemy. The Polish National Anthem was named after one of my clan members and I am proud to be a Pole, even though I consider myself in exile and will never return the the land my family fought and died for.



Never told?

YOU have to be told?

All that info has always been available IF you were interested.

You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish.

What?

Maybe if you were upper class. The common people were serfs that were more or less owned by the upper class.
 Quoting: G. House


he is talking about the XVI reality, not current times
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 Quoting: Johny777


Where is my car?! Oh well .......


Mr.Poland can you plz stop stealing cars and selling them back? Thats not fair! : (
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Not taboo.

Most Americans are ignorant. Poland get a small blurb (few paragraphs)in a history book. Mostly related to WW II.

They figure, if it was important, we would hear more about it.

GLPers are the ones who questioned this and augmented their learning after the state indoctrination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044765


so no information that the polish constitution was the first in europe???

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