Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? | |
goodmockingbird User ID: 1131586 United States 10/15/2010 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? I have wondered this myself. Here are some ideas: Most of us here in the US are of British Isles, German, or other western European ancestry. Our history books here pretty much concentrate on what was the old Roman Empire, and what became of it. During the 1950s and 60s the old Soviet Union and satellite states were treated with mistrust and were largely a mystery to us. Poland has a wonderful and fascinating history. Decades ago the popular historical novelist James Michener wrote a magnificent novel (called simply "Poland") about your country from prehistoric times up to the 20th century. I Support Our First Responders |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 972619 Netherlands 10/15/2010 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? any suggestions? Quoting: Johny777not sure what you mean...care to explain? anyway in the town where i grew up they always honoured the polish veterans of ww2 and we had a polish exchange with the football club and stuff...the vodka was always very good... |
Johny777 (OP) User ID: 1131591 Poland 10/15/2010 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? People in fear don't believe in reality , but in this what in their opinion should be. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1111794 United States 10/15/2010 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? any suggestions? Quoting: Johny777You better believe they do. My great grandfather came from Poland in 1909 and settled in this country. I don't even know one word of my native language. It took me many years to learn how Poland was totally dismissed from history. Most of Europe was Poland at one time. Do we ever hear about that? NO, the second voyage of the Mayflower brought Polish architects to Plymouth rock because the English did not know how to build their own houses, (they had to be taught how to eat by the natives). You NEVER hear that Poland had an Elected King when the English were still in caves and painting themselves blue. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. You never hear that Poland had more Nobelmen and woman than any other country in the world. You never hear about the fighting abilities of the Polish mounted soldiers or the wings they attached to their horses to frighten the enemy. The Polish National Anthem was named after one of my clan members and I am proud to be a Pole, even though I consider myself in exile and will never return the the land my family fought and died for. |
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Xytx User ID: 1116833 United States 10/15/2010 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? Agreed. I don't remember learning too much about Poland's history in school, other than their involvement with World War II, which was pretty significant. After WWII, though, Poland became a communist country and remained so until 1989. With the Cold War going on, I think it kind of got lumped in (in people's minds) with the Soviet Union or only referred to regionally as "Eastern Europe" even though Poland is obviously a bit different from its neighbors. Sorry about that. No reason we can't all be friends now, right? I wouldn't take it personally, though. The U.S. doesn't even cover it's own history in schools very well. I didn't know that Abraham Lincoln was pro-slavery until recently... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1125637 France 10/15/2010 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? You're no better than other people. Not bad either. We're all the same. But... If you want me seem more intelligent (just kidding) Keep the memory of Maria Sklodowska in hell. Otherwise .. thank you again to exist. Merci |
Sword0fGideon User ID: 1131649 United States 10/15/2010 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? I know that there is many books about Poland in U.S (separate case is the number of copies) but Poland seems to be absent in the mass culture I mean that you force in your films names like: people from the Middle - East Europe , the Republic of Cracossia (Cracow we have such a city and in 1981 we had police state - introduced by Jaruzelski) or things like Poles are more less Russians , polish guerrillas are more less russians guerillas (ww2) and so on. I can bet that the strong majority of U.S citizens don't know that the polish constitution was the first in Europe. Quoting: Johny777well..... seems to me that now the world is in the shadow of a one world order, the people of poland would be greatful not to be in their spotlight....... america is facing a battle of political correctness and green crap now and our economy is fixing to tank. seems that the polish people would start taking precautions along their borders to insure whats happening in greece and could happen in germany doesnt seep in to their borders, but, this type of actions would be viewed as politically incorrect and thrust into the worlds spotlight. Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1044765 United States 10/15/2010 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? any suggestions? Quoting: Johny777Not taboo. Most Americans are ignorant. Poland get a small blurb (few paragraphs)in a history book. Mostly related to WW II. They figure, if it was important, we would hear more about it. GLPers are the ones who questioned this and augmented their learning after the state indoctrination. |
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Lion Stare User ID: 1069341 Canada 10/16/2010 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? My grandfather was born in Pommern...in East Prussia...NOW part of Poland. Quoting: weegieSo were my grandparents, although they were from Silesia, now part of Poland as well. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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G. House User ID: 1132276 United States 10/16/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? any suggestions? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111794You better believe they do. My great grandfather came from Poland in 1909 and settled in this country. I don't even know one word of my native language. It took me many years to learn how Poland was totally dismissed from history. Most of Europe was Poland at one time. Do we ever hear about that? NO, the second voyage of the Mayflower brought Polish architects to Plymouth rock because the English did not know how to build their own houses, (they had to be taught how to eat by the natives). You NEVER hear that Poland had an Elected King when the English were still in caves and painting themselves blue. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. You never hear that Poland had more Nobelmen and woman than any other country in the world. You never hear about the fighting abilities of the Polish mounted soldiers or the wings they attached to their horses to frighten the enemy. The Polish National Anthem was named after one of my clan members and I am proud to be a Pole, even though I consider myself in exile and will never return the the land my family fought and died for. Never told? YOU have to be told? All that info has always been available IF you were interested. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. What? Maybe if you were upper class. The common people were serfs that were more or less owned by the upper class. "Everybody lies." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047610 United States 10/16/2010 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? any suggestions? Quoting: Johny777The history writters in the west are the same sort who wrote Soviet "history." Poland, the ones who brought down Utopia, have been air brushed. Plus you have not surrendered your moral princials to the Western humanist elite as ordered. Be glad they hate you. Celebrate it! |
Johny777 (OP) User ID: 1131591 Poland 10/16/2010 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? Most Americans are ignorant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1131933Most Americans are busy. We don't have time for provincial fruit-loopery. . It can be the source as you call it: "...that silly mistakes..." |
Johny777 (OP) User ID: 1131591 Poland 10/16/2010 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? any suggestions? Quoting: G. HouseYou better believe they do. My great grandfather came from Poland in 1909 and settled in this country. I don't even know one word of my native language. It took me many years to learn how Poland was totally dismissed from history. Most of Europe was Poland at one time. Do we ever hear about that? NO, the second voyage of the Mayflower brought Polish architects to Plymouth rock because the English did not know how to build their own houses, (they had to be taught how to eat by the natives). You NEVER hear that Poland had an Elected King when the English were still in caves and painting themselves blue. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. You never hear that Poland had more Nobelmen and woman than any other country in the world. You never hear about the fighting abilities of the Polish mounted soldiers or the wings they attached to their horses to frighten the enemy. The Polish National Anthem was named after one of my clan members and I am proud to be a Pole, even though I consider myself in exile and will never return the the land my family fought and died for. Never told? YOU have to be told? All that info has always been available IF you were interested. You never hear about the freedoms that were Polish. What? Maybe if you were upper class. The common people were serfs that were more or less owned by the upper class. he is talking about the XVI reality, not current times |
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Johny777 (OP) User ID: 1131591 Poland 10/16/2010 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sometimes , I have the impression that the West treats the history of my country as a taboo. Why? any suggestions? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044765Not taboo. Most Americans are ignorant. Poland get a small blurb (few paragraphs)in a history book. Mostly related to WW II. They figure, if it was important, we would hear more about it. GLPers are the ones who questioned this and augmented their learning after the state indoctrination. so no information that the polish constitution was the first in europe??? |