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TSA Refuses Commercial Airline Pilot Access to his Plane

 
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10/18/2010 07:35 PM
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My point is the TSA is a window dressing Dog and Pony show unless 100% of the cargo you and you families are sitting above is screened.
That my friends is the bottom line without the TSA bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977055


exactly.

a good majority of the items that is sitting and being transported doesn't even get "screened"....mostly the cargo including shipping items.

I once heard this "agent" say...if they had to screen each cargo item in ONE PLANE plus the checked bags, it would take more than a week for the plane to take off...

eerie, eh?

TSA is a TOTAL JOKE....got people acting like hamsters with all this "take your shoes off" mess....
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10/18/2010 07:39 PM
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um, im not sure how memphis works it, but flight crew is not subject to all the same searches regular passengers are. im going to call semi bs on this on, having an ex flight attendant as a fiance.

having the SITA badge means that flight crew has already passed security background checks and is allowed access to damn near anywhere inside or outside the terminal. they quickly pass through security and go through a metal detector and arent required to take off shoes, etc.
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10/18/2010 07:39 PM
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I support the pilot dude!

TSA, or nobody has any business x-raying us and groping us.

I don't feel one bit safer on any airline by knowing passengers has passed a "peek" or "grope" test.

There never were any hijackers with box cutters anyway.
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10/18/2010 07:44 PM
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Something tells me the original screener was black. Have you ever tried to reason with a 7 dollar an hour black screener?
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yep all tsa employees are nearly brain dead over weight negroids.
 Quoting: 508527


oh please!

don't make this a "black/white" thing. I see lots of middle aged white screeners working for TSA along with mexicans and blacks (but strangely, I've yet to see an Asian TSA employee.)
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10/18/2010 07:45 PM
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There was another government who liked to have people disrobe as well...


:hitler:


Remember?

Your Gov. is betting you won't!
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10/18/2010 07:50 PM
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As far as I am concerned, I have flown for the last time. I really don't care to support the airline industry anymore. I can't believe so many Americans put up with illegal search and seizure that is the T S A.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777821


Don't do that, that's exactly what they want.

They are trying to hassel Americans to give up flying, then they will crack down further. Do you think they are going to stop at airports? They are not.

Fight back, fly then when they try to put you through a naked radioactive body scanner raise a stink. Refuse to be groped.

You are going to have to fight back eventually, start now while this shit is still in the beginning stages.
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10/18/2010 07:53 PM
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It's not like the pilot can't crash the plane anytime he wants, yeah i'm sure he needs a bomb.
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10/18/2010 07:59 PM
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Re: TSA Refuses Commercial Airline Pilot Access to his Plane
Expressjet rich-ass pilots aren't really even pilots.

Anyone even marginally proficient in video games could fly one of Expressjet's piece of shit jets.

Pull a TSA agent off the scanner and put his ass in the cockpit.

lol
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10/18/2010 08:04 PM
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I worked as a "Lead Screener" for three years.
The TSA workers all knew the pilot. This is about the power trip the TSA has become since 90% of the managers had fast food jobs before the TSA hired them. This was done for obvious reasons, since the TSA wanted the lower end of the IQ spectrum.
His first mistake was not asking the screener for the TSA supervisor. As soon as you know they are violating your rights, stop everything and demand a TSA supervisor come to the checkpoint. TSA screeners use the fact that you need to make your flight to bust balls.
Get the TSA supervisors name as soon as they arrive.
In this case the pilot should have explained to the TSA supervisor that he was being harassed. Then explain how you will make an official complaint with the TSA District Office.
Keep in mind this is a dog and pony show becaue the commercial cargo they load into the belly of every passenger jet is not screened.
Think about what I just said.
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Thank you!
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10/18/2010 08:06 PM
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Screening of known employees such as pilots and stewards should not be done in the same context as the general public. These are known workers and should have their own access entry checks.
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I have to agree in this particular situation b/c they work for the airlines and they should get to go through a different line. If they pass thru the same thing daily then what is the issue for security?
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10/18/2010 08:07 PM
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Has anyone ever just gotten so fed up with the tsa and just striped naked and walked through? I would love to see what happens. A group that is flying should just get their tickets go to the tsa line and trhought there clothing on the x-ray belt. Make sure to tape it to get the reaction of everyone.
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Or...why don't they make the TSA goons go through the scan as well, does the seven dollar an hour laborer represent more of a threat to us then the pilot? I think probably so....
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And meanwhile, the islamics are sailing through security UNMOLESTED.

While in the corner, a soldier of the United States of America is being frisked by an islamo.

I have seen it.
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10/18/2010 08:15 PM
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If you can't trust the pilot what's the point?
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The best comment so far...he just might as well plunge the airplane after he was airborn,..if he realy was a terrorist that is
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10/18/2010 08:22 PM
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So...Whos going to fly the damn plane?


The TSA goons?

Screening is screening. It has to be done for the public safety. If this man is so mentally unstable that he wants to cause difficulty for the screening process, he needs to be fired.

That is all there is to it.

TSA has no way of knowing for certain that he IS the pilot or a phony. They are tasked with preventing any object that can be used to harm passengers from passing through security. They have to do their job for the safety of the traveling public. This idiot airline pilot seems to think that because he is wearing a uniform, he does not need to be screened.

He is a fucking idiot. Fire his ass.
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth


SHILL!!!!
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10/18/2010 08:25 PM
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You're the idiot, this guy passed thru the same security gate for nearly five years. If they don't recognize him by now.... In case you missed it, he's a pilot.
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I will add, it is a different situation when you full body scan a random passenger who you will likely never remember or see again... it is another to body scan for someone they have known for 5 years and may very well know for the next 5 years. It only increases the indignity of the situation.

Having dealt with some very professional TSA agents -- and some incredibily unprofessional ones as well, I have to believe he ran into the latter.
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10/18/2010 08:38 PM
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Simple solution. Tell him to become a Muslim.
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10/18/2010 08:42 PM
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So...Whos going to fly the damn plane?
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maybe illegals since them and Muslims get to do whatever they want and we get punished for it. maybe we should change the name of our country to beau geste.
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10/18/2010 08:43 PM
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this is disgusting and the false flag crotch rot bomber wannabe made it more possible. doesn't matter that he was escorted onto a flight without a passport...

soon, it won't matter if you don't fly since they are introducing these security measures to sporting events and will try to start using it in other aspects of your lives. wake up america and stop putting up with the bull shit.
learn from france and start protesting against the people that are eroding your rights.

RFID National ID card is coming.
Then the chip.
The sheep will line up for it just like the "flu shot".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977055


i don't think they will need a chip with the artificial neurons growing in their brains and the crystals and metals from the chemtrails
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10/18/2010 08:46 PM
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The same M...F....who makes money on 9/11 making money again by selling those X- machine and more.
America - wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10/18/2010 08:47 PM
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Re: TSA Refuses Commercial Airline Pilot Access to his Plane
You're the idiot, this guy passed thru the same security gate for nearly five years. If they don't recognize him by now.... In case you missed it, he's a pilot.


I will add, it is a different situation when you full body scan a random passenger who you will likely never remember or see again... it is another to body scan for someone they have known for 5 years and may very well know for the next 5 years. It only increases the indignity of the situation.

Having dealt with some very professional TSA agents -- and some incredibily unprofessional ones as well, I have to believe he ran into the latter.
 Quoting: TraderRob


it is still a strip search without probable cause or a warrant

looking at thousands or naked people all day long constitutes nothing but sexual abuse on the part of TSA

it is sexual abuse
sexual assault

no strange men are allowed to look under my clothes, period
if i see one of those vans around my house i am reporting them and their license plate and suing for sexual assault

it is bad enough that they do it all the time with the satellites, anyway
Anonymous Coward
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10/18/2010 08:49 PM
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Rules are rules.... The pilot knew them, and instead had to play smartass. Just sayin'
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no, the rule is the 4th Amendment
read it sometime
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10/18/2010 08:50 PM
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I support the pilot dude!

TSA, or nobody has any business x-raying us and groping us.

I don't feel one bit safer on any airline by knowing passengers has passed a "peek" or "grope" test.

There never were any hijackers with box cutters anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1134617


The pilot didn't want to be groped or zapped himself, but he still wants all the passengers groped or zapped.
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10/18/2010 08:51 PM
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Rules are rules.... The pilot knew them, and instead had to play smartass. Just sayin'



no, the rule is the 4th Amendment
read it sometime
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you'd probably be one of those, "It's the rule: all Jews, gays, political activists, Constitutionalists, feminists, foreigners, and gypsies have to go to the death camp. Hey, that's the rules!"
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10/18/2010 08:52 PM
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Re: TSA Refuses Commercial Airline Pilot Access to his Plane
So...Whos going to fly the damn plane?


The TSA goons?

Screening is screening. It has to be done for the public safety. If this man is so mentally unstable that he wants to cause difficulty for the screening process, he needs to be fired.

That is all there is to it.

TSA has no way of knowing for certain that he IS the pilot or a phony. They are tasked with preventing any object that can be used to harm passengers from passing through security. They have to do their job for the safety of the traveling public. This idiot airline pilot seems to think that because he is wearing a uniform, he does not need to be screened.

He is a fucking idiot. Fire his ass.
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth



SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10/18/2010 08:54 PM
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Hooray for this dude! They're going to punish him severely for this, so I really wish more people would do this kind of thing. All this security BS is just to keep people used to jumping thru hoops. If everyone put up a fuss, they'd have no choice but to stop it. People are no safer now than they were from all this nonsense; they sure got allot less privacy now though.
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SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! propoganda
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10/18/2010 08:56 PM
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It's not like the pilot can't crash the plane anytime he wants, yeah i'm sure he needs a bomb.
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funny in a sick way, but true!
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Screening is screening. It has to be done for the public safety. If this man is so mentally unstable that he wants to cause difficulty for the screening process, he needs to be fired.

That is all there is to it.

TSA has no way of knowing for certain that he IS the pilot or a phony. They are tasked with preventing any object that can be used to harm passengers from passing through security. They have to do their job for the safety of the traveling public. This idiot airline pilot seems to think that because he is wearing a uniform, he does not need to be screened.

He is a fucking idiot. Fire his ass.
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth

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Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.

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You won't never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home.
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So...Whos going to fly the damn plane?


The TSA goons?

Screening is screening. It has to be done for the public safety. If this man is so mentally unstable that he wants to cause difficulty for the screening process, he needs to be fired.

That is all there is to it.

TSA has no way of knowing for certain that he IS the pilot or a phony. They are tasked with preventing any object that can be used to harm passengers from passing through security. They have to do their job for the safety of the traveling public. This idiot airline pilot seems to think that because he is wearing a uniform, he does not need to be screened.

He is a fucking idiot. Fire his ass.
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth


Idiot!
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10/18/2010 09:02 PM
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Hooray for this dude! They're going to punish him severely for this, so I really wish more people would do this kind of thing. All this security BS is just to keep people used to jumping thru hoops. If everyone put up a fuss, they'd have no choice but to stop it. People are no safer now than they were from all this nonsense; they sure got allot less privacy now though.




SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! propoganda
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FedUpAsWell -- Sorry
Got carried away. You are not a shill! Sorry.
I get so enraged at the freedoms that are being stripped from us.
Didn't mean to do that.
This weekend, my daughter who was flying home alone from a college break got groped and "molested" by some big lesbian TSA agent because she just happened to be one of their random search victims.
I am so upset about this. This was her first time flying by herself. So they picked an 18 year old toe-headed blonde to pick on for their random groping pleasure-seeking sessions!!!!
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I worked as a "Lead Screener" for three years.
The TSA workers all knew the pilot. This is about the power trip the TSA has become since 90% of the managers had fast food jobs before the TSA hired them. This was done for obvious reasons, since the TSA wanted the lower end of the IQ spectrum.
His first mistake was not asking the screener for the TSA supervisor. As soon as you know they are violating your rights, stop everything and demand a TSA supervisor come to the checkpoint. TSA screeners use the fact that you need to make your flight to bust balls.
Get the TSA supervisors name as soon as they arrive.
In this case the pilot should have explained to the TSA supervisor that he was being harassed. Then explain how you will make an official complaint with the TSA District Office.
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Keep in mind this is a dog and pony show because the commercial cargo they load into the belly of every passenger jet is not screened.
Think about what I just said.



Keep in mind this is a dog and pony show because the commercial cargo they load into the belly of every passenger jet is not screened.

Think about what I just said.




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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1134061

Keep in mind this is a dog and pony show because the commercial cargo they load into the belly of every passenger jet is not screened.



Indeed


Rarely fly anymore-

If I had my own plane, even a small one-it would be different

I do not need a jet like pelosi said she needed...with 220 additional seats...and all the perks



Likewise I know the cargo is not handled as roughly as travelers

I also have gotten a few of 'them' to let me know how long they are trained...2 weeks seemed common...and quite dangerous

I am not surprised most had low skills prior to their employment-or they would not be so compliant to their overlords(fallen as they are) and they would not be so eager to violate long standing laws and rights-only in such profound ignorance can one act the way most of them do.


Even the Israeli security expert with about 3-4 decades in security over there-stated the THZ(terahertz) scanners were useless for many items or skill

He cleared the machines with plenty to prove it-

Chertoff really does PROFIT with each one sold

and they offer a false sense of security


SOME BASIC CHANGES THAT WOULD HELP SECURITY IMMENSELY are ignored-so they can terrorize the public-many who have yet to recover from 911 or the chaos that unfolds daily
much of it contrived

dangerous to DNA and especially children or pregnant women or those who are in the ages of childbearing


They want everyone sterile for the most part-seriously-and most tsa have minimal understanding of radio frequency or the dangers to humans or living biologic tissue

Ionizing

and the frequency to jack ones DNA permanently-or their young or progeny far down the line.





GLP