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Message Subject TSA Refuses Commercial Airline Pilot Access to his Plane
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You don't have to be so literal regarding 9/12. The rules regarding jumpseating were changed ON 9/12 at my airline whether planes were flying or not. That was my point! Isn't that a coincidence?

Yes, I am aware that at certain airports, the crew doesn't go through security. But in one of my previous comments, which you didn't read, pointed out the 1fact that if three pilots show up in uniform for a flight when two are assigned, THAT would be questioned, wouldn't it? DUH!

2I am trying to get across to people like you that Michael Roberts was about to be a PASSENGER and was NOT a crew member for the flight. Yet, he doesn't want to ever go through security because he's wearing a uniform?

Apparently you are not aware that pilot uniforms have been stolen from hotel rooms and are also being sold on ebay. 3That means that anyone wearing one of these uniforms and about to be a passenger can pass through security anytime according to you!

And I am well aware that there are those working at airports who do not pass through security. That has always been one of my gripes, but after 9/11 and a few other failed attempts at blowing up a plane, it shows that the terrorists want to be martyrs.4 They want to GO DOWN with the plane and meet the 72 virgins waiting for them! :o)

5It's no longer the days when crews were taught to comply with hijackers...that all the hijacker wanted to do was to get from Point A to Point B when they brandished a gun. Whether you know it or not...that was what every pilot and flight attendant was taught the days prior to 9/11.


 Quoting: flygirl



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They hijackers were not in jumpseats.

1.by who? TSA ? Think again. That check is by the gate agents.
2. Jumpseaters--here is an example of a jumpseat policy of a major US carrier-edited to not have the name of the airline
=Proceed directly to the gate and request and complete a jumpseat boarding pass from the gate agent, then proceed to the aircraft to get the captain’s approval. Uniform or business casual is required, along with company ID and airman’s certificate. Check-in at the gate. Will accept as many jumpseaters as there are open seats in the cabin on both domestic & international flights. See Captain for authorization. For international segments, the jumpseater's company must have a Reciprocal Jumpseat Agreement with US Airways. Check in at the ticket counter no less than 60 minutes prior to scheduled departure and pay departure taxes.
-Now the FO in question had gone thru the metal detector and didnt beep. Yet for some reason known only to TSA he was tagged to go more indepth.
3.No it does not. You obviously know jack shit about airline ops or jumpseating.
If you are going to js in the flightdeck-You have to be in the CASS system. That involves name employee number and picture in the database.Thats checked at the gate. The CASS -Cockpit Access Security System costs about 1 million dollars per airline so that Joe pilot from united can be verified by John ticket agent at American before he ever walks down the jetway.And then only if there are no empty seats in the back.
4. mmm. and?
5. Common strategy2. Ever hear of it?Should have had it in day 1 of indoc.

Now as for :people like me-
Who have been airline pilots for 16 years. Who have 5 type ratings, 3 ATP(L)s-FAA JAA and another, who have been instructors on transport category jets, a chief pilot at a major US airline, and a FIDO.
People like me think people like you are just full of shit.
 
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