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when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?

 
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when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
who did it and why?
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
SHoulda been changed to the ostrich.....with it's head in the sand....
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
SHoulda been changed to the ostrich.....with it's head in the sand....
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lol,i have to admit I like ostriches, funny lookin birds.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
The phoenix bird symbolizes immortality, resurrection and life after death. In ancient Greek and Egyptian mythology, it is associated with the sun god

Iranian Empires (Persia) are among the first who used eagle as a standard[citation needed]. To the pagans, the eagle was an emblem of Jupiter, the god of the sky. The eagle and lion of Inishowen were used as Celtic drudic holy symbols. In 102 B.C. the Roman Consul Gaius Marius decreed that the eagle would be the symbol of the Senate and People of Rome. It is said that when the Second Temple of Jerusalem was being expanded and renovated in 20 B.C., Herod the Great offended the people by mounting a Roman golden eagle over the gate. When Herod died some years later, his opponents tore down the eagle. It is believed that the Prophet Muhammad's first standard or flag in 7th century A.D. was a plain flag with no insignia on it to contradict the national standard of the opposing pagan Quraish tribe, Al-Uqaab, that had a black eagle on white background, the sacred Eagle that carried pagan prayers from Earth to the Sky.

Central Asian Turkish Shamans carried a wooden stick pole with seven or nine horizontal sticks forming stairs to an Eagle put on the top of the stick during their rituals. The eagle was regarded, for example, as a holy bird, a protective spirit, and the guardian of heaven. It was also a symbol of potency and fertility. Eagles on tombstones reflected the Shamanistic belief that the souls of the dead rose up to Heaven in the form of birds or were accompanied and protected by the eagle while traveling in the underworld and the sky. Eagle also was believed to be a carrier of prayers to the sky. The Altaic figures carved into rocks suggest that the eagle also was a sign of grandeur and magnificence among the Turks.

The Turkish shamanistic religious heritage of Asian roots survived to some extent after their acceptance of Islam and migration westwards. The metaphorical meaning of the name of Tougrul Beig (993-1063 A.D.) who founded the Seljuk State as its foremost commander was "Eagle". The spirit of the Türkmen is accepted as 'horse' in the fifth and as "eagle" in the third period.

In mediæval and modern heraldry eagles are often said to indicate that the armiger (person bearing the arms) was courageous, a man of action and judicious. Where an eagle's wings were spread ("displayed") it was said to indicate the bearer's rôle as a protector. When mythological beasts are used, such as a griffin (part eagle, part lion) they indicate that the bearer of the arms possessed a combination of those animals' qualities.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
Timeline shift? Wasn't it always an eagle?
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
SHoulda been changed to the ostrich.....with it's head in the sand....
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Or a lolcat cuz we're a joke.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
SHoulda been changed to the ostrich.....with it's head in the sand....

Or a lolcat cuz we're a joke.
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EXACTLY!!!! Most people have their heads in a hole...instead of engaging corruption....
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
Timeline shift for sure! Always an eagle for me.

Ben Franklin wanted the Turkey, lol.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
Timeline shift? Wasn't it always an eagle?
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No timeline shift just someone making up history instead of actually looking it up.

Its always been the bald eagle and the initial thought was using the turkey.

And WTF kind of ritualistic shit is a "national bird" anyway?
Just silly made up billshit, good thing the countries founders thought ahead and made sure we would have a national bird.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
SHoulda been changed to the ostrich.....with it's head in the sand....

Or a lolcat cuz we're a joke.
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LOL

+1
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
The National Bird has always been the Bald Eagle!
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
1841,it was changed from the phoenix to the eagle, i just googled it.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
Timeline shift? Wasn't it always an eagle?


No timeline shift just someone making up history instead of actually looking it up.

Its always been the bald eagle and the initial thought was using the turkey.

And WTF kind of ritualistic shit is a "national bird" anyway?
Just silly made up billshit, good thing the countries founders thought ahead and made sure we would have a national bird.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1132263


Yeah like the State flower and the State motto etc. what is that for except to make elementary school kids learn memorization of useless trivia?
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
1841,it was changed from the phoenix to the eagle, i just googled it.
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But how could the national bird be a mythical creature?
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
1841,it was changed from the phoenix to the eagle, i just googled it.


But how could the national bird be a mythical creature?
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Well this is America...
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
1841,it was changed from the phoenix to the eagle, i just googled it.
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Yeah Regan was a great president and his economic policies worked, i just googled it.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
1841,it was changed from the phoenix to the eagle, i just googled it.


Yeah Regan was a great president and his economic policies worked, i just googled it.
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you didnt look too hard then libtard.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
1841,it was changed from the phoenix to the eagle, i just googled it.


Yeah Regan was a great president and his economic policies worked, i just googled it.
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I JUST GOOGLED MY BUNGHO
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10/22/2010 04:17 PM
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
The best non-winning idea was the rattlesnake.
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When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
The best non-winning idea was the rattlesnake.
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A deceitful treacherous predator?


Yeah that is a better symbol of our nation than a eagle.
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
The best non-winning idea was the rattlesnake.


A deceitful treacherous predator?


Yeah that is a better symbol of our nation than a eagle.
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I was thinking more along the lines of ...

Don't Tread on Me
:SWT name:

When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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Re: when did they change the national animal from the phoenix to the eagle?
I don't know of any record of a phoenix being a national bird. Manly P. Hall said the early depictions of the national bird were secretly depicting a phoenix, but who knows where he got his information....

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