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Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????

 
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Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????
I guess so! As any conspiracy theorist, I'm aware of Project Phoenix, Montauk Project, Philadelphia Experiment and other alleged US military time-space travel black ops and I got excited about the possible time traveler woman, holding a "cellphone", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", but it seems that it already was debunked as a 1920's hearing device model manufactured by Siemens:

For a while, the carbon amplifier patented by Siemens played a major role in hearing aid technology and significantly raised the volume of hearing aids.

The electrical energy controlled by the carbon microphone was not fed to the receiver directly. It first drove the diaphragm of an electromagnetic system connected to a carbon-granule chamber. Current was transmitted across this chamber from the vibrating diaphragm electrode to the fixed electrode plate.

The amplified current produced mechanical vibrations in the electromagnetic hearing diaphragm that were then transmitted to the ear as sound.


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However a doubt remains: If it was a hearing device, what that woman was holding, why she was talking on device????

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Was she talking to/on the device or was she just talking?

Plenty of people talk to themselves, many of them are up in years. You have to remember senility can hit the best of us.

The problem with 'Cell Phone Theory' is that there were no cell phone towers in 1928.

Not even one.

So either she has a plan with a company that gets great reception, in which case I want to give up Verizon for that company... Or she does not have a cellphone.
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Was she talking to/on the device or was she just talking?

Plenty of people talk to themselves, many of them are up in years. You have to remember senility can hit the best of us.

The problem with 'Cell Phone Theory' is that there were no cell phone towers in 1928.

Not even one.

So either she has a plan with a company that gets great reception, in which case I want to give up Verizon for that company... Or she does not have a cellphone.
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Yep, it's a match point. And the senility is the most plausible explanation about why she's talking on/to device... I also have to say that she doesn't fit in the stereotype of black ops agent, mainly a time travel agent. No offending fat people.
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Yep, it's a match point. And the senility is the most plausible explanation about why she's talking on/to device... I also have to say that she doesn't fit in the stereotype of black ops agent, mainly a time travel agent. No offending fat people.
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If it's a hearing aid, she might be talking, self-adjusting the gain on the device so she could hear.

As for being a fat old lady, how do we know but that some quirkiness of time travel, some peculiar interaction of the process with human physiology, doesn't mean that fat old women are the perfect (or only?) candidates for time travel?

We're stuck in the paradigm of the buff fighter pilot astronaut, and it may be that that paradigm doesn't cut it for time travel.
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Fake..... Next!


The sheeple eat this stuff up....lol.
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Re: Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????
Occam's Razor would suggest this is a hearing device.

Having said that, *IF* time travel were possible, and *IF* this chick was time travelling, then I would think it very plausible that whatever devices time travelers have could be advanced and not require cell towers, etc...After all, their time travelers :) With that idea opens up questions of advance technologies, etc..so not necessary to categorize a device of theirs into a category of ours (cell phone, walkie talkie, etc.)

But personally, seems like a hearing device is the most plausible answer!
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ACK! that post should read "they're time travelers"!!!

(I hate grammar mistakes like that!!) :)
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Debunked?

Who the fuck brought into this shit in the first place?
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Re: Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????
Occam's Razor would suggest this is a hearing device.

Having said that, *IF* time travel were possible, and *IF* this chick was time travelling, then I would think it very plausible that whatever devices time travelers have could be advanced and not require cell towers, etc...After all, their time travelers :) With that idea opens up questions of advance technologies, etc..so not necessary to categorize a device of theirs into a category of ours (cell phone, walkie talkie, etc.)

But personally, seems like a hearing device is the most plausible answer!
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If the time travelling comms tech DID require either satellite or towers, consider the possibilities of the Black Knight Satellite which was discovered in polar orbit in 1960...much larger/heavier than Sputnik, and apparently not put into orbit by any of the nations taking their first tentative steps into space. Interesting to note: it's said that it repeated old radio programs from the 1920's-'30's.

from: [link to www.forbiddenhistory.info (secure)]

"What is the "Black Knight" satellite? It is a mysterious satellite, of unknown origin, discovered in 1960 which shadowed Sputnik. It is believed to have been of extraterrestrial origin, and signaled back old radio waves from the 1920s and 1930s before it disappeared."

If the necessity of towers is deemed a prerequisite, consider not only the Eiffel Tower in Paris, but the many radio towers of that era...could not a time-travelling or alien tech piggyback their signals using the towers extant?

Regardless, it seems likely to be a handheld hearing-aid device the person has slapped up to their ear. There'll likely be no conclusive proof of what it was or wasn't, unless other vids or stills emerge revealing more about the lady and what she was/wasn't carrying in her hand. We'll all just have to beleive whatever best suits our individual psychologies.
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If it were a hearing device, WHY wasn't she talking to another person IN HER PRESCENCE?? She was communicating to another 'being' NOT in her immediate prescence. Primitive hearing devices were only meant to amplify sound in the near proximity of the user.
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Re: Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????
Occam's Razor would suggest this is a hearing device.

Having said that, *IF* time travel were possible, and *IF* this chick was time travelling, then I would think it very plausible that whatever devices time travelers have could be advanced and not require cell towers, etc...After all, their time travelers :) With that idea opens up questions of advance technologies, etc..so not necessary to categorize a device of theirs into a category of ours (cell phone, walkie talkie, etc.)

But personally, seems like a hearing device is the most plausible answer!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950716

An actual time traveller would prefer something less conspicuous and clumsy then a handheld.
You can make transceivers real small and it would be easy enough to make it part of the clothing.
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Its a farnsworth device..

Debunked.
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I believe it was a hearing device. I bet she used that so she could hear the director telling extras where to walk and cross in front of the camera. Why she'd be moving her mouth or talking I don't know, perhaps she didn't pick up the sound well and was asking the director to repeat where she was to go.
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The problem with 'Cell Phone Theory' is that there were no cell phone towers in 1928.


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Were not many in 1985, either, but they still had cell phones.
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Re: Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????
It was a man in drag, not a woman.

You don't really think an old woman would:
1. be using the latest technology of 1928, assuming that some wireless communication device was even available then?
2. be sent to 1928 as a time traveler by a super-secret government agency, do you?
3. be a time traveller on her vacation in Hollywood?

Get real, fellow crazies. At least show some intelligence.
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If it were a hearing device, WHY wasn't she talking to another person IN HER PRESCENCE?? She was communicating to another 'being' NOT in her immediate prescence. Primitive hearing devices were only meant to amplify sound in the near proximity of the user.
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The guy above already answered it:

If it's a hearing aid, she might be talking, self-adjusting the gain on the device so she could hear.
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She may be talking on device to adjust the volume.
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I believe it was a hearing device. I bet she used that so she could hear the director telling extras where to walk and cross in front of the camera. Why she'd be moving her mouth or talking I don't know, perhaps she didn't pick up the sound well and was asking the director to repeat where she was to go.
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She was doing the volume adjust herself.
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Re: Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????
The real funny part is that a complete unknown lady from the '20s became a celebrity in a conspiracy forum 90 years later, in a thread about time travel...
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Yep, it's a match point. And the senility is the most plausible explanation about why she's talking on/to device... I also have to say that she doesn't fit in the stereotype of black ops agent, mainly a time travel agent. No offending fat people.

If it's a hearing aid, she might be talking, self-adjusting the gain on the device so she could hear.

As for being a fat old lady, how do we know but that some quirkiness of time travel, some peculiar interaction of the process with human physiology, doesn't mean that fat old women are the perfect (or only?) candidates for time travel?

We're stuck in the paradigm of the buff fighter pilot astronaut, and it may be that that paradigm doesn't cut it for time travel.
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The fact that she's fat adds to the possibility it's real; look at all the fatties in the world today vs. very few fatties back then.
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The real funny part is that a complete unknown lady from the '20s became a celebrity in a conspiracy forum 90 years later, in a thread about time travel...
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I'm waiting for the thread here ...

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Actually, a time traveller would have to fit in to the time they were visiting. So it would make more sense for them to use a dumpy old lady than a strapping brad pitt type with a tan, or a 6'5" Marine with a crew cut heading back into the 1920's s226

Real spies have to fit in to their mileau. That's why they're wear DISGUISE so you don't know there's something amiss.

You people watch too many movies.
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Re: Was the "time traveler", caught on Chaplin's movie "The Circus", debunked????
Occam's Razor would suggest this is a hearing device.

Having said that, *IF* time travel were possible, and *IF* this chick was time travelling, then I would think it very plausible that whatever devices time travelers have could be advanced and not require cell towers, etc...After all, their time travelers :) With that idea opens up questions of advance technologies, etc..so not necessary to categorize a device of theirs into a category of ours (cell phone, walkie talkie, etc.)

But personally, seems like a hearing device is the most plausible answer!

An actual time traveller would prefer something less conspicuous and clumsy then a handheld.
You can make transceivers real small and it would be easy enough to make it part of the clothing.
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Great point! ;)
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^^Exactly. if we were so advanced to be able to complete such a task, we would have much less conspicuous ear devices same as we already have...duh..
Beside's, doesn't everyone watch the History channel or is anyone an Engineer??? Going back in time isn't possible. Only way to physically go back in time is to go forwards first. This means you must lose a few years of your life just to go back or actually "freeze" time. Impossible to actually go back because nothing travels faster than the speed of light.
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1925 Western Electric Model 34A "Audiphone" Carbon Hearing Aid

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1925 Western Electric Model 34A "Audiphone" Carbon Hearing Aid

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thats = to a 78 year old woman walking around holding a 5 pound weight.

Those things were made with earphone because people could not, especially elder possibly lug that thing around constantly
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thats = to a 78 year old woman walking around holding a 5 pound weight.

Those things were made with earphone because people could not, especially elder possibly lug that thing around constantly
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