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An Annunaki-based Question

 
Anonymous Coward
07/03/2005 01:51 AM
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Some theorists, such as Sitchin, believe the Igigi (post Sumer annunaki, biblical fallen angels) mentioned in ancient texts and in Genesis 6 were purely geneticists. However, I have done a bit of research into the original meaning of the cuneiform word, Igigi, which basically seems to indicate they were watchers (signified by the "eye" cuneiform) who were involved in alot more than genetic manipulation. They were also procreating the natural way (signified by the meaning of "gi", which is to deflower or penetrate sexually).

Thusly, the theory that the Annunaki Igigi were purely scientific geneticists who remained above on their craft, is not indicated by the cuneiforms or the biblical and pseudopigraphical texts.

Also of note is the fact the "eye" glyph is interpreted in other pseudopigraphical texts as "watcher", which pretty much lays to rest the masonic concept that the "eye of God" (or Horus or Osiris or Ra) is actually of God, when historically it has represented the fallen angels, such as the Igigi and their Annunaki predecessors who were known to the ancient mesopatamians as the "Watchers".

If youīd like to test my theory, check out the Penn State Sumerian Encyclopedia and select "I" from the alphabetic list, scroll down to "Igi". Then select "A" from the alphabetic list and scroll down to "A gi". Take special note of the glyph for "to deflower..." in "A gi" and compare and contrast it to the glyphs in "I gi", which indicate the "eye" and "to deflower, penetrate sexually" as one compound word. The word Igigi then explains/defines the entire Genesis 6:2 verse in one fell swoop.

In summary, the Annunaki/Fallen Angels/Igigi were doing more than simply tinkering with human genes according to the Sumerians, Akkadians, Babylonians, and the Hebrews.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Ooops hereīs the address for the encyclopedia:
[link to psd.museum.upenn.edu]
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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To me, itīs obvious the history of Manīs evolution is one of extra-terrestrial intervention...
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "extra-terrestrial." Pretty much anything that doesnīt come from Terra, is "extra-terra."
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Combine that with the serpent-kundalini symbolism that runs through Sumerian and Egyptian art and it becomes pretty clear there were a special ruling class of people back then who were psychic beings. Iīve met some of their descendants.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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1691,

Care to elaborate?
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To understand the serpent-kunalini symbolism I recommend Joseph Campbellīs books. In short, the snake represents sexual energy.

People who have these psychic abilites are all around us. They tend to be morally superior, although not in any conventional sense.

Hereīs an example:

[link to tinyurl.com]
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1691,

Remote viewers? You mean people gifted with extra-sensory gifts?
Anonymous Coward
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Yes. This was originally what set apart the ruling class.
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Well, that seems pretty biblical as well, since itīs my contention they were angels, and in the case of the Annunaki and Igigi, they were more specifically the fallen angels (also known as the sons of God in the Genesis 6:2 verse, although not all sons of God were necessarily "fallen". Only the ones that tinkered with us genetically and/or sexually, appear to have been in error, initially).
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Your question might seem more creditable if you spell Anunnaki right. Why does everyone spell it wrong. Go to Sitchinīs official site, first paragraph and youīll see the correct spelling is Anunnaki NOT Annunaki.

[link to www.sitchin.com]
Xenshin
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Hi OP, I would also like to add your info that the name for Sumer (Summeria) can be translated to "The Land of the Watchers". The Egyptian name Neteru, is a literal translation of "Watchers" as the legends clame they arrived with "heavenly boats" i.e. a flying spaceship derrived from ancient technology.

The "Watchers" are also found in the Book of Enoch and Genesis 6 that chose to co-habitate with the "daughters of men" and bring about the race of giants called the Nephilim or "fallen ones".
to 924
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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And YOU Sir ARE A TWEEB.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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942,

I apologize. Iīve been studying them for quite awhile now and just got in the habit of spelling it that way. Anyway, "ad hominem" arguments donīt play well when the premise is perfectly valid.
ooppss
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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should have been 942
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These special abilities are now often used for exploitative purposes. What was a potential gift has become a curse. Itīs too easy for some to exploit those still in the "dark".
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Xenshin,

Ah yes, I recall reading about Neteru. The quote in which it was found was from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, correct? Concerning Enoch, I usually just bundle Enoch and Jasher under the "pseudopigraphical books," so that anyone interested in the subject realizes Iīm taking the various hebrew histories into consideration when presenting the concept and not strictly the bible and/or sumerian/akkadian/babylonian cuneiforms.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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1691,

Do you honestly believe they (referring to the fallen angels now and not some poor human who has nephilim ancestors) ever stopped using it for exploitation? I sure donīt. That was their trademark down through history.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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ooppss

Nope, just factual. To many people spell it wrong and it looks silly. Sorry!
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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942,

Eek. I want ...to...correct.. your ...grammar, but ...must ...resist..the urge. hf
Anonymous Coward
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"An Annunaki-based Question"


So whereīs the question?
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16684,

Perhaps it wouldīve been better titled, "Anunnaki Theory." The question is whether or not the Anunnaki Igigi actually stayed up in their craft, per Sitchinīs theory or interacted physically with humans. I believe the word itself reveals the answer to that question.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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1622

My grammar is quite adequate!

Please note, you canīt even spell grammar right!
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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942,

Hrm. "Grammar." "Grammar." Seems the same to me. ;) Interesting conversation we are having. :)
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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Why do threads tend to degenerate into this type of sniping?
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1622

As stated, my grammar is quite adequate!
Xenshin
12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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>>>>The quote in which it was found was from the Egyptian Book of the Dead, correct?

I do believe so. It seems as though many cultures seem the carry their own "Book of the Dead". Even Lovecraft has his.

Neteru also pertains to the "gods" or "goddesses". Since it also means "Watchers", perhaps the Annunaki also pertains to the Watchers since it means gods in plural form? Do you think they have anything to do with the modern day theory of Reptilians or "Dracos"?

The Hebrew "Elohim" and "Adonai" also carries the same plural connotations.

The Book of Enoch also happens to predate the edited Biblical cannon, which is...interesting.
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12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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942,

For me, yes, your grammar is quite adequate. For you, it probably wouldnīt be if I were the one saying it. hf

What exactly disturbs you about the concepts Iīm advancing here, other than the fact they disagree in some small way with one of Sitchinīs theories?
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1622

Really, have you looked at your grammar and sentence structure? You have your nerve to criticize mine!
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Xenshin,

I did a bit of study on the meaning of the word, "Anunnaki," as well. Sitchin says it means, "Those who from Heaven to Earth came." But actually, the roots of the word reveal its meaning.

"An" was the premier sumerian god, also called "inu" in akkadian, which, by the way, also translates to "Igi" and therefore "eye." "An" is also translated at some point as "Heaven."

"Ki" was the "wife" of "An" in some texts and is also translated as "Earth," at some point.

So the Annunaki could also be called "the children of An and Ki." (The children of Heaven and Earth, et.al, the nephilim).

Thereīs a small problem with that, particularly because the nephilim were not the fallen angels, but rather the offspring of the fallen angels and humans (human hybrids). It may just be a case of generalization somewhere along the line, combining both the children and their parents into one package, for racial definition.
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942,

Fascinating. :)





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