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In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...

 
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10/24/2010 05:36 PM
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economic/financial issues are not what makes people commit suicide. Personal issues are.
Sadly, most people have been successfully indoctrinated into believe that both are the same. We are being driven to believe that if you fail financially, everything else fails, and people kinda help each other into believing that, like a chain reaction.
We don't just need a better politic and financial ways to do things. What we really need is to re-learn how to be an Human being, and not just another gear on the huge machine that is society today.
Believe it, the ones that handle the machine don't care about a single gear. It can be replaced.



BRAV the fuck O. Portugal. Ive been thinking about this a lot lately. Here in the US. Its all money. u dont have it, u are a loser.

andf the system is setup in a way, that if you fall, even once, if you fail .....its really hard to "get back in".

No mercy when it comes to taxes. And since you didnt opay your taxes, people dont hire you. Have wage garnishments? LOSER! Get him the fuck out of here.

same with credit scores, and court sytems and driving laws,

You cant oay insruance, they take your license now you cant work and never will be able to pay insruance.

issue after issue like this....

this adjustment is going to kill people. like OP just posted. many wont make it. but the beat will go on, people will go on...

i would like to encourage people to start taking care of each other. if youre a cop, let that fucking guy go cuz he couldnt pay insruance, tell him, get it done when u can.

on and on......this is the only way, we at the bottom must band together.
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10/24/2010 05:37 PM
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Only the weak off themselves when the going gets rough.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

cruel but true
Failing to plan, is planning to fail.

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10/24/2010 05:38 PM
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Phoenix 2012, you're a fucking prick.
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So ... completely ... RIGHT!
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10/24/2010 05:39 PM
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They died cowards and I hope they are remembered as such.



Cowards, really? You think it easy to kill yourself....ding dong?

You think a twisted tortured mind is easy and cowardly?

Hmmmm......I hope you are never faced with the decision.

Armchair ding dongs are almost always wrong.

Hey where do we mail the first stone for you to toss?


whatchu talkin' bout willis?

Me commit suicide?..ain't going to happen and yes it is the fucking cowardly way out.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012



You have not been faced with a situation that would force you to consider........how about burning from heat and not being ablre to breath and being 1000 feet above ground level.....you can stay and continue to burn or jump......?

You ass-whole think you know the answer.......you do not!


I Recall that type of situation at the World Trade Tower 2001 terrorist attack.

Some decided to fly.........you would of course......?

Why is the arrogance at your level?
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10/24/2010 05:40 PM
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Wait a min....nope still just fucktards.




And instead of fixing it yourself, you want everyone else to do the work.

It's just so typically Randian, always foisting your own costs off on others and then demanding "justice".


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Whatchu' going to do then, Sparky?

Start a shelter and buy em a supply of lithium?

lol
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10/24/2010 05:42 PM
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Whatchu' going to do then, Sparky?

Start a shelter and buy em a supply of lithium?
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


Why don't you go stink up some other thread?
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10/24/2010 05:42 PM
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
Start a shelter and buy em a supply of lithium?
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012



Deflection.

The issue is you, not them.

Do the work, whiner.

Do the work to get what you want.


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The Biss  (OP)

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10/24/2010 05:43 PM
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The odd thing about the whole scenario today was this: Today at our church during our "Sunday school" the question arose, "Is suicide an unforgivable sin?"

We have a pastor from Kenya, Africa who lives with us. He has his doctorate in theology from SE Baptist Seminary. The Mrs and I posed that question to him for a lunchtime roundtable discussion.

Dr Njoroge, my wife and I agreed that Christ's death was suitable retribution for all our committed sins, past, present, and future... which would include the sin of offing oneself, even if the offender was a believing yet manically depressed Christian.

The creepy thing is that, at the same time we were having the conversation, my brother-in-law was sitting in his truck two hours drive away, with a revolver placed against his temple.
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10/24/2010 05:44 PM
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Start a shelter and buy em a supply of lithium?



Deflection.

The issue is you, not them.

Do the work, whiner.

Do the work to get what you want.


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Deflection and whining? maybe you should read back a few pages.

eyeroll...
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10/24/2010 05:45 PM
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I just love how the Randian religion is founded on all the rest of US to do the work to create the world that THEY want.

It's hilarious when they finally realize that they are the true freeloaders.

Quit freeloading on our pussified society, lazy-bag!



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10/24/2010 05:45 PM
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
look what their selfish acts did to you, and you only know them. how about their families.

probably the most selfish act a person can do.
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10/24/2010 05:47 PM
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Sorry to hear OP .
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10/24/2010 05:49 PM
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Don't blame the elitists for peoples failure to be able to survive a bad situation and not commit the selfish act of suicide.



I do blame the elitists for the destruction of the world's economy. They use this planet as their own chess board.
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10/24/2010 05:50 PM
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
I just love how the Randian religion is founded on all the rest of US to do the work to create the world that THEY want.

It's hilarious when they finally realize that they are the true freeloaders.

Quit freeloading on our pussified society, lazy-bag!


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10/24/2010 05:51 PM
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I've lived thru much harder times than these, could even call them desperate times, am much better off now and should have so much to live for, and yet, my desire to continue on is much diminished. I think my faith in humankind is nearly gone. I'm fairly old now and the effects of age alone take their toll.
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
Don't blame the elitists for peoples failure to be able to survive a bad situation and not commit the selfish act of suicide.



I do blame the elitists for the destruction of the world's economy. They use this planet as their own chess board.
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That's fine just don't blame them if you decide to take you own life.
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
look what their selfish acts did to you, and you only know them. how about their families.

probably the most selfish act a person can do.
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I don't disagree with this. It strikes me as responsibility avoidance as well.

I won't deny that both Pete and Ken were morose and taciturn people. I just wonder how/why financial pressure would lead someone to this form of behaviour adaptation.
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Some people are truly disgusting and vile .
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
look what their selfish acts did to you, and you only know them. how about their families.

probably the most selfish act a person can do.
I don't disagree with this. It strikes me as responsibility avoidance as well.

I won't deny that both Pete and Ken were morose and taciturn people. I just wonder how/why financial pressure would lead someone to this form of behaviour adaptation.
 Quoting: The Biss

maybe because in this society a person is valued according to what they have
and maybe because people arent always there for eachother

very sad
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
Only the weak off themselves when the going gets rough.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012



Yeah and only the strong should survive, just like its been all of history, evolving and trying to improve is strictly forbidden.
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10/24/2010 06:01 PM
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
suicide isnt cowardice, it takes BALLS, I doubt all the judgmental people are capable of it, you have to go against the will to live itself, which is the most powerful force in the universe


Total bullshit post. It takes balls to kill yourself instead of dealing with a bad situation...hahah yea right.
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society brainwashed every1 to say, its selfish and curse their memory. thats y in the middle ages anyone who committed dsuicide, their families would be locked up/imprisoned. why does society hate suicide? because they lose a productive tax paying member and the people who grive around them also risk losing productivity. remember, were in a MACHINE.
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I have a friend that was caught up the wave of financial murder-suicides in Las Vegas shot his wife before turning the gun on himself; another friend, who recently had heart surgery, is in the process of losing his business, and home to foreclosure has been drinking heavily and gorging on all-you-can-eat buffets, giving away his things which usually precedes suicide.

Am hearing more and more talk of single, aging, second-wave feminists are scared to death of losing their jobs, as 70% of the jobs in the public sector are made-up work for females, suspect to see more coming out of this demographic as the lay-offs accelerate.
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also no one owes anyone anything, were put in this earth by force. and no matter what u say, luck is EVERYTHING, luck of the genetics u got, the family u got, the opportunities u get, country your born in and what happens to us. i think the suicides selfish people are hurt most by it because the persons gone forever. but cursing their memories/insulting them is wrong. because their spirit lives on and is still suffering, they need love and support from beyond the grave.
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Re: In the past 3 weeks, two people I've known have committed suicide...
suicide isnt cowardice, it takes BALLS, I doubt all the judgmental people are capable of it, you have to go against the will to live itself, which is the most powerful force in the universe


Total bullshit post. It takes balls to kill yourself instead of dealing with a bad situation...hahah yea right.


society brainwashed every1 to say, its selfish and curse their memory. thats y in the middle ages anyone who committed dsuicide, their families would be locked up/imprisoned. why does society hate suicide? because they lose a productive tax paying member and the people who grive around them also risk losing productivity. remember, were in a MACHINE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 578383



Seriously in many cases these people are really just butthurt because the person how killed himself was directly responsible for taking care of a group of people.

Often he was doing this alone with no backup... shit i would off myself.

But that is why im not getting locked down with a number of dependents to enslave me.

Just look around at all of the slaves and endenured servants in our supposed free country.

Frankly i think the high volume of drugs and drinking keep the suicide numbers down...
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I have a friend that was caught up the wave of financial murder-suicides in Las Vegas shot his wife before turning the gun on himself; another friend, who recently had heart surgery, is in the process of losing his business, and home to foreclosure has been drinking heavily and gorging on all-you-can-eat buffets, giving away his things which usually precedes suicide.

Am hearing more and more talk of single, aging, second-wave feminists are scared to death of losing their jobs, as 70% of the jobs in the public sector are made-up work for females, suspect to see more coming out of this demographic as the lay-offs accelerate.
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Double so in our society where if you are over 40 you are no longer relevant.
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10/24/2010 06:13 PM
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This is a lyric of a spanish song.

I wake up without any desires, this day will be the last
few believe me, today my paradise comes.
I assume and I do not doubt, I swear with my heart, my dead soul warns.
Not a threat, is a lie that turned real.
I left the door open and a note not completely written, It is read with difficulty.
Mom and dad goodbye, saying it
I went barefoot, no strength, no desire
I figured on the ground, dead, and nobody cried
I walked a lonely street
everything is dark and raining
I watch the street lamps
and the time going by hurts
the edge of my blade press me, it´s her.
I will arrive at the end with the easy way
life is not beautiful
I seek only to be alone now
in a maze with no exit
I stopped asking God for help
I talk to my conscience, alone
she asks me to pull the trigger
but I am afraid to say goodbye
sorry if I failed again.
I noticed a shame when i looked myself in the mirror, Mom
forgive me, I beg you!
I don´t know if I explain
I'm sitting in a seventh floor rail
but I'm already dead inside and I'm tired
I'm tired of living always running away the past
I was a coward, I gave up more than once I almost
Pointing my book: the story incomplete, i don´t care to fight ,blank pages, tinted with red of my blood
I do not deserve a single tear
my suicide note was late
I signed a document with Satan
to be free only I have to jump and nothing more.
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10/24/2010 06:19 PM
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They died cowards and I hope they are remembered as such.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


You're cold, very cold. The kind of person who actually commits suicide.
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well, you can always fulfill the prophecy of 3
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This is a lyric of a spanish song.

I wake up without any desires, this day will be the last
few believe me, today my paradise comes.
I assume and I do not doubt, I swear with my heart, my dead soul warns.
Not a threat, is a lie that turned real.
I left the door open and a note not completely written, It is read with difficulty.
Mom and dad goodbye, saying it
I went barefoot, no strength, no desire
I figured on the ground, dead, and nobody cried
I walked a lonely street
everything is dark and raining
I watch the street lamps
and the time going by hurts
the edge of my blade press me, it´s her.
I will arrive at the end with the easy way
life is not beautiful
I seek only to be alone now
in a maze with no exit
I stopped asking God for help
I talk to my conscience, alone
she asks me to pull the trigger
but I am afraid to say goodbye
sorry if I failed again.
I noticed a shame when i looked myself in the mirror, Mom
forgive me, I beg you!
I don´t know if I explain
I'm sitting in a seventh floor rail
but I'm already dead inside and I'm tired
I'm tired of living always running away the past
I was a coward, I gave up more than once I almost
Pointing my book: the story incomplete, i don´t care to fight ,blank pages, tinted with red of my blood
I do not deserve a single tear
my suicide note was late
I signed a document with Satan
to be free only I have to jump and nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137725


Suicide is the hidden epidemic.
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One more makes it a bonafide 3-Peat
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