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GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?

 
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GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
I have this older Dell computer here that was given to me by a friend in July. It got a lot of blue screen errors before, which I looked up and assumed were software related, and everything I tried to do to fix it was software related (taking off stuff I had installed on top of the new XP reinstallation). Finally it said it couldn't find the hard drive to boot up.

My kind friend took it to a computer place for a free diagnostic testing, the guy there said he "put it through its paces" for three days and couldn't find anything wrong with it.

So apparently it is hardware related. My friend brought me a different keyboard and mouse to try, I had been using a new Kensington kb and mouse that I bought special for the new (old) tower.

I do believe this is not a software problem, I do believe that has been eliminated. Unless of course it's a driver problem, which is software but hardware related.

Anyway I started getting the blue screens right away, worse than before, I messed around and tried different mice, I don't think it was the mouse, it failed when I tried to boot up with no mouse plugged in.

So it must be the monitor? It's a Dell brand monitor, flat screen but not new.

Or could it be a power supply problem? I have a million things plugged into this circuit, I think.

I bought the power cord at Radio shack for this computer, could it be a bad power cord?

any suggestions? It got to "can't find hard drive" much faster this time than last time.

0x000000F4
(0x00000003, 0x8180DDA0,
0x818DF14, 0x805FB146 (that 5 might be an S))

Incidentally I don't think these are the same error codes as last time.

Oh and I also tried to boot it up with the DSL unplugged, thinking there might be some problem with the internet connection (although it got online just fine each time I successfully booted up). anyway nothing I tried worked.

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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
looks like you're in a flower field
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
looks like you're in a flower field
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But the repair shop said there's nothing wrong with it.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
A monitor won't cause bluescreen crashes.

Without more details, it could be anything -- bad mobo, bad video card (if you have one), bad RAM.

You could start with a wipe and re-install of the OS. Or you could just start shopping around for a new rig.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
looks like you're in a flower field

But the repair shop said there's nothing wrong with it.
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No, they said they didn't see a problem.

Some problems are intermittent. Could be bad RAM, for instance -- it might run fine for days, or ten seconds, and then crash. Until it crashes, it looks perfectly okay.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
A monitor won't cause bluescreen crashes.

Without more details, it could be anything -- bad mobo, bad video card (if you have one), bad RAM.

You could start with a wipe and re-install of the OS. Or you could just start shopping around for a new rig.
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Well that's good to know about the monitor, thanks, that helps.

Can the keyboard or mouse cause it?

Also this has the round PS-2 sockets for the KB and mouse, I have the adapters for those, it was finicky about the mouse, I tried more than one mouse and more than one mouse PS-2 adapter, some combinations it wouldn't recognize.

Here is a question, it has rectangular USB standard sockets below the round PS-2 ones, does it matter if you plug the mouse or keyboard into the standard USB socket or do you have to use the adapters and put them in the PS-2 receptacles?

Is it bad to put the kb in the PS-2 hole and the mouse in the regular USB socket? Even though it works that way, is it messing things up? I had it that way briefly and then found the right mouse/adapter combination that it would recognize.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
A monitor won't cause bluescreen crashes.

Without more details, it could be anything -- bad mobo, bad video card (if you have one), bad RAM.

You could start with a wipe and re-install of the OS. Or you could just start shopping around for a new rig.

Well that's good to know about the monitor, thanks, that helps.

Can the keyboard or mouse cause it?

Also this has the round PS-2 sockets for the KB and mouse, I have the adapters for those, it was finicky about the mouse, I tried more than one mouse and more than one mouse PS-2 adapter, some combinations it wouldn't recognize.

Here is a question, it has rectangular USB standard sockets below the round PS-2 ones, does it matter if you plug the mouse or keyboard into the standard USB socket or do you have to use the adapters and put them in the PS-2 receptacles?

Is it bad to put the kb in the PS-2 hole and the mouse in the regular USB socket? Even though it works that way, is it messing things up? I had it that way briefly and then found the right mouse/adapter combination that it would recognize.
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I doubt seriously that any combination of keyboard and mouse is going to bluescreen a PC.

Can you tell me what processor you have, how much
RAM memory you have, and what version of Windows you're running?

And is the Windows install legal? I have to ask, because a lot of 'other' versions are prone to random crashes and so forth.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
A very common cause of blue screens on older pcs is running out of system resources..

How much free space do you have on your C drive?

ETA: unistall any program you dont use.

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A very common cause of blue screens on older pcs is running out of system resources..

How much free space do you have on your C drive?
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LOL I was about to ask this!
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
ok walk up to the computer screen take your fist clench it then repeatedly punch in your computer screen. it wont fix your problem but it will make you feel a whole lot better peace
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Memory would be my bet as well.

The other thing you can do is pop off the side panel and look at the motherboard. If its an older computer 3-6 years old then check the capacitors(Cylinder looking things on the motherboard with either a cross on the top or 3 pie shaped lines)they should all be perfectly flat on the top. If any of them are swollen outwards or even sometimes crusty on top then you found your problem. Quite common for causing blue screen errors since it will lose a charge corrupting data, and after a while the system just won't start. I know a lot of techs that won't even crack it open to inspect it, they just use software to test the hardware instead of common sense. Heat problems can also cause those errors so make sure all your fans are clear of dust(in the heatsink) and spinning.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
I stopped at Blue screen & dell. you are obviously an idiot. Hit yourself in the head with a tackhammer.

OK, now look at ubuntu. look at apple.

you really cannot go wrong with either.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
shhh... here's a little I.T. secret. run this.
Free Window Registry Repair
[link to download.cnet.com]


but don't tell everybody cause i need a job.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
I stopped at Blue screen & dell. you are obviously an idiot. Hit yourself in the head with a tackhammer.

OK, now look at ubuntu. look at apple.

you really cannot go wrong with either.
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The OP might not be gay, which rules out Apple.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Apple is a sad attempt of people trying to be different. Kind of like a spork.....
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shhh... here's a little I.T. secret. run this.
Free Window Registry Repair
[link to download.cnet.com]


but don't tell everybody cause i need a job.
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after u install it just click 'full scan' (takes a few minutes) then (when done) 'fix errors'. then restart computer.

do again til it stops finding most errors.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Take the cover off and pop the memory out and reinstall the memory. Might be an intermittent bad connection... seen that before. While the cover is off, clean the dust from the CPU heat sink.


Just my 2 cents.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Install Linux Mint and your blue-screens will be a thing of the past.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Sounds like a bad hard drive to me. Definately a hardware issue though, especially if you've formatted, etc.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
i had the same problem easy fix is booting from cd and reinstalling windows
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
yep, one of the hard disks is scratched up. get a new drive.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
I would pull Hard Drive slave it to secondary computer and chkdsk on it. Also check the amount of free space on it. Secondly scan with any av software second computer may have.

you can also run a mem diag tool on the computer is well.

Normally 0x000000F4 errors are Hard Drive becoming toast thou.
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Have you checked the fans? Could be heat.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Go into your system BIOS at boot and make sure all the settings are correct. Disable any features such as video bios shadowing, switch off any attempts at overclocking which may have been applied to the machine. Then disable on board hardware such as the sound card to see if this affects the problem.

I've seen this type of error before and it's usually down to an instability in the hardware caused by incorrect BIOS settings.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
The real error to search for here is stop code 0xf4. If you just updated a driver, roll it back. If you don't remember adding anything, when was your last restore point?

You might start with a chkdsk /f from a command prompt. Reollback latest driver if needed.

Apply the latest service pack again in case some files got corrupted. I hope that helps.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
not sure of anything in this thread that can help you either, but here is the one I started a couple months ago when a friend was and still is having the problem.

Thread: Blue Screen problems with Vista
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
I only stepped away from the computer long enough to sort some laundry and make a salad - you guys are my heroes, look at all these great responses! Just look at them! :-)

Thanks . . I am eating my salad now but will post back with answers to some of your kind questions . .. THANKS again.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Your answer might be in your own post. A poor power supply can easily cause these problems.

You say the repair shop could find no problem, and that at home you plug the computer into an overcrowded plug.

Take the computer to another circuit in the house. It will probably require moving it to another room temporarily. Or, completely unplug everything but the computer in question at its current location. See if that helps first before you make any changes to the computer.
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A lot of times it is cheaper and a lot less headaches to replace than try to find a intermittent hardware problem.Computers are pretty cheap and you don't want to risk losing all your data.
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Re: GLP computer gurus, can we talk about my hardware-related blue screen stop error please?
Can you tell me what processor you have, how much
RAM memory you have, and what version of Windows you're running?

And is the Windows install legal? I have to ask, because a lot of 'other' versions are prone to random crashes and so forth.
 Quoting: The_Returner

I don't think I can boot up, I couldn't when I tried yesterday.

But you know, I did write it down before:

Dell Dimension 4300

Intel Pentium 4cpu

1600 mhz

1.59 ghz

256 mb RAM

Now, a couple of things, this was a GIFT, free of charge, I don't go looking gift horses in the mouth.

Another thing, the old eMachines I am typing on right now, has half the RAM and is working JUST FINE.

There is nothing on the hard drive of the DELL but the XP SP3 OS, and the Avast! antivirus, and the CCLeaner, unless I took that off too when I was trying to find out if I had installed something that was causing a problem.

I uninstalled the Firefox, etc. I don't have even any files on there.

The clean reinstall of the XP was done by the technician who does all the work for the County I live in, the guy who gave me the computer had him do it cause the tech guy owed him a favor.
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I think a brand new Hard Drive is in order, OP.

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