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Legally OPT OUT of Social Security? You sure can. Here is the IRS form.

 
FloridaCaveDiver
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Legally OPT OUT of Social Security? You sure can. Here is the IRS form.
Considering the Ponzi scam that is Social Security really has no money and is going down the toilet it is not a bad idea to consider getting OUT. This would apply especially to the younger folks.

You do have to be a member of a "Recognized Religious Group" that has been around since 1950 so don't go thinking you can just setup your own sham religion to get out of it. LOL

I am just providing this for your information.

Here is a link to the PDF on the IRS website.

Enjoy!

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If you read the instructions - not that simple to opt out - you must belong to a religious group that opposes social security AND that religious group MUST provide a reasonal level of living for its dependent members!
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10/25/2010 06:11 PM
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I have to claim religion to take MY MONEY? I CANNOT wait until SHTF omfg please happen soon
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I have to claim religion to take MY MONEY? I CANNOT wait until SHTF omfg please happen soon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038611


This is one of the reason I posted this... to make a point.

So you can not opt out because you simply want to provide for yourself and not be forced into something you know most likely will not even be around for you....

No you can't do it for PERSONAL REASONS....

EXCEPT

for an exemption carved out for SOME religions (been around since 1950) ...

So why is it new religions get screwed and furthermore why can we just not opt out of Social Screwyourity for PERSONAL REASONS ... like I don't expect to be taken care of I will handle that responsibility myself.

Always exemptions...

Sort of like the exemptions to opt out of Obamascare.
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Re: Legally OPT OUT of Social Security? You sure can. Here is the IRS form.
so what religion is opposed to it?
SLAM THAT CLAM
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It would be interesting to know what are the "approved" religions...
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It would be interesting to know what are the "approved" religions...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141855


Some examples given on page 2 in the instructions names Amish, Mennonite and Anabaptists.
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If you read the instructions - not that simple to opt out - you must belong to a religious group that opposes social security AND that religious group MUST provide a reasonal level of living for its dependent members!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081321


so if you don't get oppressed by the government, you'll be oppressed by the religious group!
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Equal protection does not allow for exemptions! Everyone should be exempt from social security, it is unconstitutional in the first place. Our "government" is not the government and all those in the government are impersonating our government and that is highly illegal. Read the constitution over and you will see many, many instances that our "government" is unconstitutional.
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Try seperation of CHURCH and STATE!! hf
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Holy Shit!
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It's 2011!!! The Obama Administration!!!

Forgery has been LEGALIZED!!!

So what's stoppin' ya?
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Can i get back everything i payed in?5a
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Re: Legally OPT OUT of Social Security? You sure can. Here is the IRS form.
so what religion is opposed to it?
 Quoting: wolverine


"Recognized religious group. A recognized religious group must meet all the
following requirements:
• It is conscientiously opposed to accepting benefits of any private or public
insurance that makes payments in the event of death, disability, old age, or
retirement; makes payments for the cost of medical care; or provides
services for medical care (including social security and Medicare benefits).
• It has provided a reasonable level of living for its dependent members.
• It has existed continuously since December 31, 1950.
Certification. In order to complete the certification portion under Part I,
you need to enter your religious group (on the first line) followed by the
religious district or congregation (on the second line). For example, if you
enter “Old Order Amish” as your religious group, then you would enter
“Conewango Valley North District,” “Conewango Valley West District,” etc.,
on the second line as the district. However, if you are Anabaptist or
Mennonite, enter the name of your religious group as “Unaffiliated Mennonite
Churches” or “Eastern Pennsylvania Mennonite Church,” etc., and the
congregation as “Antrim Mennonite Church (Anabaptist)” or “Bethel
Mennonite Church (Mennonite),” on the second line"
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Re: Legally OPT OUT of Social Security? You sure can. Here is the IRS form.
I haven't paid into social security for 15 years.

I do pay into tier1 and tier2 for the railroad.
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Can i get back everything i payed in?5a
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


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Re: Legally OPT OUT of Social Security? You sure can. Here is the IRS form.
Why do ignorant losers always claim "Separation of Church and State" when there is no such wording, nor inference, within the United States Constitution? People who make such claims should really learn how to read so they can peruse the Constitution in search of their phantasmagorical "Separation" crutch.

Yes, one can legally (and simply) remove themselves from Social Security, but it requires renouncing one's self as a citizen of the United States of America, then summarily declaring himself/herself as a citizen of his/her home State (be wary as different States do things differently). In my home State, I would no longer be required to pay State taxes, but must carry a card identifying myself as someone who falls into a certain category. You must also recognize the ramifications of your actions concerning the Internal Revenue Service/Federal Government. Should things go smoothly, you will merely lose all you have put into Social Security; otherwise, expect Hell to knock on your door.

The precedence of history can prove my statement, as well as all who have proceeded me.
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Re: Legally OPT OUT of Social Security? You sure can. Here is the IRS form.
Why would I opt out of a government program
that promises to pay me monthly in my old age?

They would not go back on a promise, would they?





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