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Where the scripture ends...Truth begins

 
New Age Messiah

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New Age Messiah, take it away since this is your area of expertise! Tell everybody how it's done! Since you were the first to demonstrate it and this is what you've been posting about being the big new messiah in town and all... I figure you fill the pages with inspired salient thoughts while I'm away.

And...Go! charlie
 Quoting: Rex Khristos

Nope, no thoughts, just proof beyond any doubt that all religions are false. sun

The Goddess Tefnut/Ma'at is the real deal. All else is lies.
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Upon the path to knowing, the first obstacle that will be encountered is the ego.


lmao
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lol
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NAM, you're an idiot. Now go and unlearn everything you think you know.
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Like I said, fuck you. sun
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Nope, no thoughts, just proof beyond any doubt that all religions are false. sun

The Goddess Tefnut/Ma'at is the real deal. All else is lies.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


AND FAIL!

God bless it, I give you opportunity on a silver platter and you manage to eat crow, amazing.

Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 11/07/2010 07:29 PM
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Time for some popcorn...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
Rex Khristos (OP)

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Come on NAM... can't take thread debate? You have to ban everyone that threatens your precious Ego?

Are you the New Insecure Messiah? Or just a shabby knock off of New Jerusalem Russ...at least he has some class.

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"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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it's fun to see that there are people way more fucked up then yourself.
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WHEN a philosopher adopted as the basis for a new apocalypse of human wisdom
the axiom: “I think, therefore I am”, in a measure he altered unconsciously, from
the standpoint of Christian Revelation, the old conception of the Supreme Being. I
am that I am, said the Being of beings of Moses. I am he who thinks, says the man
of Descartes, and to think being to speak inwardly, such a one may affirm, like
the God of St. John the Evangelist: I am he in whom and by whom the word manifests
– In principio eras verbum. Now, what is this principle? It is a groundwork
of speech, it is a reason for the existence of the word. The essence of the word is in
the principle; the principle is that which is; intelligence is a principle which
speaks. What further is intellectual light? It is speech. What is revelation? It is
speech also, being is the principle, speech is the means, and the plenitude or
development and perfection of being is the end. To speak is to create. But to say:
“I think, therefore I exist”, is to argue from consequence to principle, and certain
contradictions which have been adduced by a great writer, Lamennais, have
proved abundantly the philosophical unsoundness of this method. I am, therefore
something exists might seem to be a more primitive and simple foundation for
experimental philosophy. I AM, THEREFORE BEING EXISTS. Ego sum qui sum, such is
the first revelation of God in man and of man in the world, while it is also the first
axiom of occult philosophy. xvx' wc' xvx'. Being is being. Hence this philosophy,
having that which is for its principle, can be in no sense hypothesis or guesswork.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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it's fun to see that there are people way more fucked up then yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211366

I don't judge, I just give them the spaghetti treatment and see who sticks to the ceiling...so far, NAM is batting teflon.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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WHEN a philosopher adopted as the basis for a new apocalypse of human wisdom
the axiom: “I think, therefore I am”, in a measure he altered unconsciously, from
the standpoint of Christian Revelation, the old conception of the Supreme Being. I
am that I am, said the Being of beings of Moses. I am he who thinks, says the man
of Descartes, and to think being to speak inwardly, such a one may affirm, like
the God of St. John the Evangelist: I am he in whom and by whom the word manifests
– In principio eras verbum. Now, what is this principle? It is a groundwork
of speech, it is a reason for the existence of the word. The essence of the word is in
the principle; the principle is that which is; intelligence is a principle which
speaks. What further is intellectual light? It is speech. What is revelation? It is
speech also, being is the principle, speech is the means, and the plenitude or
development and perfection of being is the end. To speak is to create. But to say:
“I think, therefore I exist”, is to argue from consequence to principle, and certain
contradictions which have been adduced by a great writer, Lamennais, have
proved abundantly the philosophical unsoundness of this method. I am, therefore
something exists might seem to be a more primitive and simple foundation for
experimental philosophy. I AM, THEREFORE BEING EXISTS. Ego sum qui sum, such is
the first revelation of God in man and of man in the world, while it is also the first
axiom of occult philosophy. xvx' wc' xvx'. Being is being. Hence this philosophy,
having that which is for its principle, can be in no sense hypothesis or guesswork.
 Quoting: GUANO

Thanks for the germane post.

Quite right that order is wrong; I am, therefore I think. but to go back a step; I am, therefore Is-ness Is. Now the job is to be able to perceive what that Is-ness is and the fomenting of belief systems is the prime culprit of not being able to perceive Is-ness.

I also don't think it's just a blank state, as you have pointed out, The Intelligence is at work and The Word that created still creates and to even be alive we must be immersed within it...and it is rich with Information.

So therein lies the "leap of faith"...you sit long enough to still the mind and look into what appears to be a void of nothingness and leap...faithful that God Is.

Which isn't so much of a leap when you know, i mean really know that you, your very self, is a conspiracy of cosmic forces propelled by the very same Word, never erring of its goal.

Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 12/30/2010 08:37 PM
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Call out threads are not allowed and this will probably be deleted
union

The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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Sounds great but wheres the proof?

I have not seen one person demonstrate some real super natural powers in my life (which I would assume you would gain from reaching "third initiation" or something similar).

Thanks for the post any how.
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Supernatural?

Spiritual gift are given to those who need to use those gifts to help others.
They are from God, not from ourselves.
We are here to learn to be humble, charitable, faithful,
(to Christ and our loved ones) and hopeful of our own
capacity to repent of sin.

High and freeflown though it sounds, initiation into
some higher order of mortality is a trick of the father of
lies.

To follow the example of Christ is the only path on the way to death that will help eternal life in the least way.
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[link to www.esotericpublishing.com]

Prior to the third initiation we proceeded blindly; we took the existence and nature of the inner spiritual realities on faith and inner conviction. We relied upon the Intuition of our heart, the word of our Master, and the wisdom teachings of the ages for our knowledge and understanding. We aspired to some day see these things for ourselves. At the third initiation all this process is over. The scales fall from our eyes. Our inner vision is awakened and knowledge, faith, and belief are replaced by direct experience. Knowledge is gained directly from Intuitional apprehension; there is no more need to read books or study — the mental vehicle no longer needs to be built up or strengthened. For the third degree initiate, the Spiritual Intuition — the mind that perceives Reality — is fully active and can be used at will. The hidden world that lies behind all outer appearances is known and perceived. This is a clear, grounded vision that is seen with the eyes and heard with the ears — the subjective world of the soul becomes just as definite and objective as the physical world. The third degree initiate moves in a World of Light where thoughts and ideas are seen as the outer manifestation rather than the physical universe.



You have entered the Kingdom, child of the Almighty.
 Quoting: Rex Khristos



Finally, the defintion of MORAN, live and in living color!!!
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Call out threads are not allowed and this will probably be deleted
 Quoting: Eugene

This did not start as a call out thread, nor is it currently as I changed the title weeks later from what actually transpired...more like a call in thread as NAM can't take the brow beating and has banned me from his ridiculous threads.

So if the mods want to delete this in retro, they damn well better take the power of super fap-a-thon (banning of whom ever you want for what ever reason from your own threads) away from the unwashed masses because being able to call out a jack ass on their ass-hattery is one of the things that made this place great.

Other wise we are witness to a bunch of insecure douche bags parading their tired old bullshit in front of our faces without their due comeuppance.

A very sad situation. Aside from page eating spam, if you can't take the heat, don't start a kitchen! ...(thread)

Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 12/30/2010 08:06 PM
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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To follow the example of Christ is the only path on the way to death that will help eternal life in the least way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875736

Why would you want to follow the "least" way?

In my opinion it is the best way.

Consider yourself a son/daughter of The God to whom you are answerable to and act accordingly.

Christ being the Straight Ray of perfection of personality, beaming from the heart of God right through your own. "Turn around and walk with me."

Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 12/30/2010 08:41 PM
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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WHEN a philosopher adopted as the basis for a new apocalypse of human wisdom
the axiom: “I think, therefore I am”, in a measure he altered unconsciously, from
the standpoint of Christian Revelation, the old conception of the Supreme Being. I
am that I am, said the Being of beings of Moses. I am he who thinks, says the man
of Descartes, and to think being to speak inwardly, such a one may affirm, like
the God of St. John the Evangelist: I am he in whom and by whom the word manifests
– In principio eras verbum. Now, what is this principle? It is a groundwork
of speech, it is a reason for the existence of the word. The essence of the word is in
the principle; the principle is that which is; intelligence is a principle which
speaks. What further is intellectual light? It is speech. What is revelation? It is
speech also, being is the principle, speech is the means, and the plenitude or
development and perfection of being is the end. To speak is to create. But to say:
“I think, therefore I exist”, is to argue from consequence to principle, and certain
contradictions which have been adduced by a great writer, Lamennais, have
proved abundantly the philosophical unsoundness of this method. I am, therefore
something exists might seem to be a more primitive and simple foundation for
experimental philosophy. I AM, THEREFORE BEING EXISTS. Ego sum qui sum, such is
the first revelation of God in man and of man in the world, while it is also the first
axiom of occult philosophy. xvx' wc' xvx'. Being is being. Hence this philosophy,
having that which is for its principle, can be in no sense hypothesis or guesswork.

Thanks for the germane post.

Quite right that order is wrong; I am, therefore I think. but to go back a step; I am, therefore Is-ness Is. Now the job is to be able to perceive what that Is-ness is and the fomenting of belief systems is the prime culprit of not being able to perceive Is-ness.

I also don't think it's just a blank state, as you have pointed out, The Intelligence is at work and The Word that created still creates and to even be alive we must be immersed within it...and it is rich with Information.

So therein lies the "leap of faith"...you sit long enough to still the mind and look into what appears to be a void of nothingness and leap...faithful that God Is.

Which isn't so much of a leap when you know, i mean really know that you, your very self, is a conspiracy of cosmic forces propelled by the very same Word, never erring of its goal.
 Quoting: Rex Khristos


Perfect connotation but super funny verbiage!

What exactly is the 'leap of faith'?
Total Protonic Reversal...
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Perfect connotation but super funny verbiage!

What exactly is the 'leap of faith'?
 Quoting: GUANO

chuckle I try to keep it interesting ;)

The leap of faith, my favorite subject. First a redefinition (back to it's original definition) of faith.

Most of what is written about faith in religious books miss the mark because the word itself is not understood. In modern English “faith” means believing in something for which there is no substantial proof. But the Greek word pistis, used in the New Testament, means stability in personal knowledge drawn from one’s own experience. It also means to be loyal to that knowledge by living in accordance with it. Pistis also means to be confident in our experiential knowledge. Faith cannot be “awakened” in a person by reading books, listening to discourses, or engaging in discussions. It comes only from within, from his own self. Saint Paul underlined this when he wrote that “faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”2 Note that he says substance and evidence. Faith is not an insubstantial idea. This is no matter of mere intellectual acceptance or emotional hope. Faith is proof that a person has experienced the reality of something; it is not a mere conviction based on reason or feeling.


So the exercise of faith is actual seeking of the Kingdom (Reality) and facing of Gods justice (harmony with Law of Truth). I think it can be done by just belief (and they were said to be even more blessed) but perhaps more difficult.

In practical terms it is facing and reversing the inertia of false perception (neuron pathway trees that have become "rutted") "Sit still and know God" but it's going to take energy to do it so in terms of the initiations one should have a grasp of completing the second, mastery of emotions to the point that the heart becomes a receiving capacitor of Love and over coming the internal obstacles to it full rise with ones being...easier said than done.

But as a colloquialism, the leap of faith comes in at night after a month fasting in the woods, willing not to fall asleep, wrestling to keep yourself conscious and become Conscious because you Know, and that fact occults the peace found in a normal life, but you've seen glimpses of Truth and paths of light through the darkness and will not accept anything less and so you wrestle for it like Jacob in self crucifixion like Jesus and pray like Isaac under the knife of Abraham that God is God and does not abandon us and is worthy of worship and praise as Ever Faithful Merciful and Magnanimous and the conquering of all thoughts to the contrary.

And in Fruition, faith is no longer needed.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."

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