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Update!!!!! - Ufo's Over Lake Erie - Ten Consecutive Night's In A Row - Cleveland

 
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it IS very interesting, but think about it...why would an extraterrestrial vehicle require strobe lights?
i believe it is man-made, if not utilizing ET technology.
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it IS very interesting, but think about it...why would an extraterrestrial vehicle require strobe lights?
i believe it is man-made, if not utilizing ET technology.
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I believe this is what they are...
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You want scientific proof that these ORBS Of Light UFO's showing up everywhere are not balloons, Lanterns. Flares, Etc.??????

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it IS very interesting, but think about it...why would an extraterrestrial vehicle require strobe lights?
i believe it is man-made, if not utilizing ET technology.
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To blend in with terrestrial air traffic??
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These UFO's turn into the color "GREEN" often. These are our Cleveland Celtic Mob leader 'Danny Greene' back from the dead to payback those who murdered him in 1977.

Danny and his new crew are back!!! Start watching for the action! "this was just reported by his also departed TV-8 media friend Bill McKay.

Don't make no jokes about this Cleveland Legend, or his New Mob Friends "there from out of this world"

Reporting from N.E. Ohio - JPS
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For those who wish to see the episode of UFO Hunters which features me (Michael Lee Hill) and the Lake Erie UFO Story...







Wow, I have learned so much since then. Strange though, all the things Bill Birnes predicted has turned out to be truth regarding our being prepared and given a coarse of study to meet our higher ET selves, It has all happened. I wonder just how he knew?

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This GLP thread linked from Official Whitley Strieber Unknown Country web site!
[link to www.unknowncountry.com]

UFOs return to Lake Erie.
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Michael



Those are the SAME UFO's with two main flashing lights....RED/GREEN/WHITE that I have seen a year ago.....and were seen by many in NYC on OCt 13th 2010.


Pic of craft.....in Chelsea NYC.


ufochel

Wow, That is a crazy connection, Thanks for your input!
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I saw this craft myself one night.
I didn't have a camera....but ran and grabbed my binoculars.
When I observed it....it's path was orbital....like I have seen when the Shuttle went overhead.
The Shuttle was just a large white dot....like a star only brighter.

This UFO was in a similar orbital path at the time....but it was flashing RED/WHITE/SILVER as it traveled.
You could see the arc of it's trajectory from treeline to treeline. It was really amazing to watch for about 5 minutes as it went from one horizon to the other.

My guess...based up having seen the Shuttle go directly overhead is....these craft are at least 3 to 5 times larger than the Space Shuttle.
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These UFO's turn into the color "GREEN" often. These are our Cleveland Celtic Mob leader 'Danny Greene' back from the dead to payback those who murdered him in 1977.

Danny and his new crew are back!!! Start watching for the action! "this was just reported by his also departed TV-8 media friend Bill McKay.

Don't make no jokes about this Cleveland Legend, or his New Mob Friends "there from out of this world"

Reporting from N.E. Ohio - JPS
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wtf
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Just dropped in to throw a flag and vote 1 Star.

All because some mod pinned this.

no other reason

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it IS very interesting, but think about it...why would an extraterrestrial vehicle require strobe lights?
i believe it is man-made, if not utilizing ET technology.
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why did Fox not sit out over night to take some video of it????? if its showing up in the same place every night
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why did Fox not sit out over night to take some video of it????? if its showing up in the same place every night
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They don't really care
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There's a secret base somewhere in the Mentor Marsh.
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No shills have shown up yet, that is amazing. Something is up.
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There's a secret base somewhere in the Mentor Marsh.
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where is the entrance?
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There's a secret base somewhere in the Mentor Marsh.

where is the entrance?
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Somewhere on the western edge, near the Mentor Lagoons... There is direct waterway access to Lake Erie there; and there is an enormous hangar style building that seems oddly out of place....
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There's a secret base somewhere in the Mentor Marsh.

where is the entrance?


Somewhere on the western edge, near the Mentor Lagoons... There is direct waterway access to Lake Erie there; and there is an enormous hangar style building that seems oddly out of place....
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IS the oddly enormous hanger building visable from the Lagoons?

I have heard there are underground tunnels that run from the smaller airposrts out under the lake to this Base.

I was told this is one of the largest underground bases in the world, is this true?

And this base is Joint Anunnaki/Human facility much like Pine Gap?
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Re-installing Google Earth, Gonna check out arount Mentor Lagoons Ohio

Any chance of any Google Earth coordinates?
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They don't need ships to communicate silly people. They can telepathically with humans. Don't let the media men fool you. They are lower level beings with silly endeavor of control of other humans. Open you universal mind and think out-side their box. I did and can overcome mental oppression by them. Don't let them oppress you. In three they will come. White Spiders are here.
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There's a secret base somewhere in the Mentor Marsh.

where is the entrance?


Somewhere on the western edge, near the Mentor Lagoons... There is direct waterway access to Lake Erie there; and there is an enormous hangar style building that seems oddly out of place....

IS the oddly enormous hanger building visable from the Lagoons?

I have heard there are underground tunnels that run from the smaller airposrts out under the lake to this Base.

I was told this is one of the largest underground bases in the world, is this true?

And this base is Joint Anunnaki/Human facility much like Pine Gap?
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[link to maps.google.com]

Above link to google maps.... Zoom in and out and look around the marsh/lagoon area.... stuff defin itely goin' on there.... There are two UFO hangars above the 'A' marker and a LARGE white hangar nelow the word lagoons....
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There's a secret base somewhere in the Mentor Marsh.

where is the entrance?


Somewhere on the western edge, near the Mentor Lagoons... There is direct waterway access to Lake Erie there; and there is an enormous hangar style building that seems oddly out of place....

IS the oddly enormous hanger building visable from the Lagoons?

I have heard there are underground tunnels that run from the smaller airposrts out under the lake to this Base.

I was told this is one of the largest underground bases in the world, is this true?

And this base is Joint Anunnaki/Human facility much like Pine Gap?


[link to maps.google.com]

Above link to google maps.... Zoom in and out and look around the marsh/lagoon area.... stuff defin itely goin' on there.... There are two UFO hangars above the 'A' marker and a LARGE white hangar nelow the word lagoons....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895627


It seems these hangars are always manned with some type of plain clothes security and no-one is allowed to enter or look in.... They are disguised as repair centers for the boats but nobody ever takes their boats inside... weird
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THIS IS NO JOKE! This has been going on for many years. Although this past year seams to be very active. I live in Willowick OH, about 1 mile east of Euclid on the Lakeshore where these sightings have been.

I personally haven't seen anything recently, nor have I been looking. I will however tell you that my cousin and I experienced something similar in the same area over lake erie about 10-12 years ago.

It was around midnight when we decided we were hungry so we decided to hit up McDonalds(yeah, we were in our early 20s). Right across the street is an apartment complex that overlooks lake erie. we figured we'd just park in the parking lot while we ate (common place to park and eat). anyways, we were just finishing up our food when we both realized there was a light hovering over the lake that wasn't moving or blinking; so we sat there and watched it. after about 2-3 mins it started moving horizontally just slightly. after a few more mins it started fading in and out a little bit. it then just sat in one spot again for a few mins. all of a sudden this thing just shot straight up very fast and disappeared. at that point we both looked at each other with the most baffled looks on our face. i seriously think a whole minute or two went by before we even said a single word about it because we were so shocked at what we just witnessed.

we laughed and joked about it for years, completely in denial. neither one of us wanted to believe what we saw was actually extraterrestrial, because frankly neither one of us really believed in that stuff. it wasn't until last year when I saw a news segment on some UFO sightings over lake erie in the euclid area, when my cousin and I really started discussing it again.
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Men of the UN = Lower Beings

In Three They Will Come
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Lake Erie: UFOs, Alien Bases, and the Wizard Lights

An article in this morning's Cleveland, Ohio Plain Dealer, concerning UFOs and alleged alien bases in the vicinity of Lake Erie, called to mind a couple of articles in my collection, from the 1860s, addressing strange, luminous phenomena on/over the lake. The first, from 1860, is a short article from the Scientific American of that day, covering a report from the Cleveland, Herald, that notes a report of a ship burning out on the lake, when in fact no ship was burning. The second article I include is from the Brooklyn, Eagle, dating from 1867, and again reporting what resembled a burning vessel upon the lake, as well as discussing reports dating from as much as 50 years earlier.



This demonstrates yet again that the 20th century never had a monopoly on unexplained luminous phenomena; the principle ways that the 20th (from 1947 onwards), and now the 21st, centuries differ from the 19th century and earlier, are:

1.) Not long after Kenneth Arnold's landmark sighting in 1947 and the ensuing wave of saucer reports, the label "UFO" was affixed to "the phenomenon," a term which was then widely adopted, and which came to mean everything from unidentified aerial phenomena to extraterrestrial spacecraft in droves.

2.) A lot of people began to make all manner and variety of conclusions (many mutually exclusive) about what such "UFOs" were, and were not, often loosely based upon "data" that never qualified as "data" in the scientific sense (this is still going on, as in the most recent article I link to below).

3.) In the 20th and now the 21st century, those that don't toe the various "party" lines arising as a result of number two, are almost universally either ignored, or "demonized."

I include the full text of the two articles from the 1860s, below the excerpt from today's Cleveland Plain Dealer. Note, as you are reading these articles, that the phenomenon is never called "UFOs" (obviously, the term didn't even exist yet), nor are alien bases or extraterrestrial spacecraft mentioned, nor is any paranormal phenomenon, whatsoever, advanced as a possible explanation.

If you feel so inclined, ponder on what that could mean, if anything.

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Lake Erie a UFO sighting hotbed

Friday, March 02, 2007
Whatever Michael Lee Hill filmed from a lakefront Willowick park last August, he wasn't the first to spot something unusual in the skies over or near Lake Erie.

The shallowest of the Great Lakes, Lake Erie is something of a hot spot for UFO sightings, so much so that some theorize aliens have an underwater base in the lake.

Read more

Also see here, for a related story.

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Scientific American, New Series, Volume 3, Issue 8 (Aug 18, 1860)


OPTICAL ILLUSION ON LAKE ERIE.--The Cleveland, Ohio, Herald says that a tremendous thunder shower passed over that city on the night of the 3d inst., and adds :-- "Between three and four o’clock next morning the appearance of a vessel on fire was seen far out on the lake. Some persons thought they could distinguish the sails. During a heavy gust of wind the light disappeared. Such appearances are not unfrequent on the lake, and the more experienced men along the dock think there has been no vessel burnt."


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"A Curious Phenomenon on Lake Erie," Brooklyn Eagle, Thursday, December 12, 1867

A Mystery on the Lakes--The Wizard
Lights--A Curious Phenomenon on
Lake Erie

I notice in the Dispatch, of the 11th inst.*, the following paragraph:--

"The statement that a vessel was seen burning off Erie on Tuesday night, is corroborated by several persons living on the highlands south of the city, who say they saw it."

On the Tuesday evening mentioned, Oct. 29th, at about 7 o'clock, my attention was called by one of my family to a bright light on the lake, having very much the appearance of a vessel on fire. Bringing several objects into range, I watched the light forsome time to ascertain whether there was any preceptible [sic] motion.

The wind was blowing hard at the time down the lake and a vessel would naturally drift rapidly to leeward, at all events as soon as the propelling power should be interfered with the fire. No motion, however, in any direction was to be discovered, and at once concluded that it was nothing more than the "mysterious light," which for many years past, at longer or shorter intervals, has been seen by the inhabitants at this point on the lake shore. The light has made its appearance generally, if not always, in the fall of the year, and usually in the month of November, and almost always during or immediately after a heavy blow from the southwest. The most brilliant exhibition of the light I have ever seen was during the night of the 24th or 25th, as nearly as I can recollect, of November, 1852. It had been my fortune to witness the burning of the steamer Erie, near Silver Creek, several years before, and the resemblance which this light bore to that of the burning steamer was so strong that I confidently expected the arrival of the boats from the wreck during the night. Others with myself watched the light for perhaps two hours, and with the aid of a good night-glass obtained what seemed to be a very distinct view of the burning vessel.

The object appeared to be some 200 or more feet in length upon the water, and about as high above the water as an upper cabin steamer, such as was in use upon the Lake twenty years ago. At times the flames would start up in spires or sheets of light, then away from side to side, and then die away, precisely as would be the case with a large fire exposed to a strong wind; and two or three times there was the appearance of a cloud of sparks, as if some portion of the upper works had fallen into the burning mass below. The sky and water were beautifullly irradiated by the light during its great brilliancy.The light gradually subsided, with occasional flashes until it disappeared altogether. The light of Tuesday evening, although very brilliant for a time, was not nearly so brilliant nor of so long duration as that of 1852.

I am told that this light was seen by mariners on the lakes as long as fifty years ago, but I am not aware that it has ever been made the subject of philosophical speculation or investigation, or, in fact, has ever obtained the notoriety of a newspaper paragraph before. The only theory approaching plausibility I have heard is that the shifting of the sands caused by the continued and heavy winds of autumn has opened some crevices or seams in the rock of the lake bottom through which gas escapes, and that this gas, owing to some peculiar condition of the atmosphere with which it comes in contact, becomes luminous, or perhaps ignited, and burning with a positive flame. That there are what are called "gas springs" in the water along this portion of the lake shore is a well-known fact, and that highly inflammable gas in large quantities exist at a comparatively shallow depth on the shore, has been sufficiently proved by the boring of wells at different points, as at Erie, Walnut Creek, and Lock Haven, and by natural springs at Westfield and Fredonia.

But whatever the cause, the light is a curious fact, and well worthy the attention of those interested in the investigation of the phenomenon of nature.
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HOLY FUCK!!! THAT's WHAT WE SAW!!! I saw this 3 separate times on the lake when I was younger(late teens early 20s). Every time this fire looking thing was floating east of Willowick towards the Eastlake Mentor area. One time it was so bright we thought a huge boat was on fire. A group of friends and I ran back to my parents house freaking out and called the cops. We then called the coast guard. They said they were going to send someone out. We ran back down to the beach and watched it for another 10 mins before it looked like it burned out. We called the coast guard again the next morning and they said they never found anything. They said it was probably just some drift wood on fire or something. Being young we later thought nothing of it. The other times we saw, we just ignored it. Thinking it was burning drift wood. WOW!!! This is seriously blowing my mind right now!
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Amazing thread as usual, thanks Mike!

Just a question, do you think that we're having an increasing number of sightings after oct/13 as predicted by that guy Stanley Fulham?

Do you see this as some sort of preparation for an even more open display in the near future?

It really seems that we're having a "wave" of sightings everywhere now, but it could just be a coincidence.

I don't believe the "disclosure" will come from the Government, from US or anywhere, but instead it'll come from the increased number of sightings as people start to connect more and more consciously to "higher realms".
Do you agree?

God bless!
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[link to strangegrub.blogspot.com]

Lake Erie: UFOs, Alien Bases, and the Wizard Lights

An article in this morning's Cleveland, Ohio Plain Dealer, concerning UFOs and alleged alien bases in the vicinity of Lake Erie, called to mind a couple of articles in my collection, from the 1860s, addressing strange, luminous phenomena on/over the lake
........

HOLY FUCK!!! THAT's WHAT WE SAW!!! I saw this 3 separate times on the lake when I was younger(late teens early 20s). Every time this fire looking thing was floating east of Willowick towards the Eastlake Mentor area. One time it was so bright we thought a huge boat was on fire. A group of friends and I ran back to my parents house freaking out and called the cops. We then called the coast guard. They said they were going to send someone out. We ran back down to the beach and watched it for another 10 mins before it looked like it burned out. We called the coast guard again the next morning and they said they never found anything. They said it was probably just some drift wood on fire or something. Being young we later thought nothing of it. The other times we saw, we just ignored it. Thinking it was burning drift wood. WOW!!! This is seriously blowing my mind right now!

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you're lucky! next time you go there take your camera with you and bring us some footage!:-)
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The UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, continues now for the ninth day in a row, as reported by MSNBC reporter David Schuster.

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bump
Nice thread but these are not UFOs.
Theses objects increasingly appearing all over the world are atmospheric strangelets birthing from the most advanced machine of the world: CERN
You really thought that the aliens would have such bad taste to design small lights moving in exactly the same way and at the same time, just for curiosity?
bump
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Amazing thread as usual, thanks Mike!

Just a question, do you think that we're having an increasing number of sightings after oct/13 as predicted by that guy Stanley Fulham?

Do you see this as some sort of preparation for an even more open display in the near future?

It really seems that we're having a "wave" of sightings everywhere now, but it could just be a coincidence.

I don't believe the "disclosure" will come from the Government, from US or anywhere, but instead it'll come from the increased number of sightings as people start to connect more and more consciously to "higher realms".
Do you agree?

God bless!
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Amazing thread as usual, thanks Mike!

Thank you my friend hf

Just a question, do you think that we're having an increasing number of sightings after oct/13 as predicted by that guy Stanley Fulham?

Yes, Things do seem to be ramping up.

Do you see this as some sort of preparation for an even more open display in the near future?

Yes, I believe we will have world wide simultaneously occuring mass sightings over every major city in the world.


I don't believe the "disclosure" will come from the Government, from US or anywhere, but instead it'll come from the increased number of sightings as people start to connect more and more consciously to "higher realms".
Do you agree?



Yes, I agree 100%.

"Some say that the galactic alignment of our galaxy is allowing for gamma rays to raise our vibratory frequency through the vibration of our third-dimensional matter by feeling love over fear. Through the light frequency created by the multi-diminesional aspects of love, the energy is to create openings of gateways into other dimensions which allow for other celestial beings to make their way to our 3rd and 4tth dimensional state of time space. The light is said to be growing as the viel is being lifted off of those who live in fear. This will herald the beginning of 5,000 years of the golden age. Where the wealth and abundance of the earth is to be know by all. The coming of the apololyps is literally translated as the end of the world as we know it and the loss of fear in favor of love will desimate the control grid of currency and politicians...but that is just what other people say. Those other people spell better too."
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I don't believe the "disclosure" will come from the Government, from US or anywhere, but instead it'll come from the increased number of sightings as people start to connect more and more consciously to "higher realms".
Do you agree?


Yes, I agree 100%.

"Some say that the galactic alignment of our galaxy is allowing for gamma rays to raise our vibratory frequency through the vibration of our third-dimensional matter by feeling love over fear. Through the light frequency created by the multi-dimensional aspects of love, the energy is to create openings of gateways into other dimensions which allow for other celestial beings to make their way to our 3rd and 4tth dimensional state of time space. The light is said to be growing as the veil is being lifted off of those who live in fear. This will herald the beginning of 5,000 years of the golden age. Where the wealth and abundance of the earth is to be know by all. The coming of the apocalypse is literally translated as the end of the world as we know it and the loss of fear in favor of love will decimate the control grid of currency and politicians...but that is just what other people say. Those other people spell better too."
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Thank you for your answers my friend.

This is a battle for all open minded and honest people of the world, a battle that implies a conscious decision of all to go in one direction (God's) instead of any other.

Our Friends are here to help us make this decision but they cannot do it for us. They bring inspiration but also a warning, that we're left with little time ahead to make up our minds. But if we do so NOW it will be a rather smooth ride and in a couple of years we'll all be joyfully celebrating together the arrival of a new reality for everybody. Fear and sorrow will be things of the past.

Their presence among us also mean that we are moving UP in their direction. It's a joint effort!:-)

We cannot rest until the final victory.

hf bump hf

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