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TheBug
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10/27/2004 03:20 PM
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Heard you say in Real Glow´s latest post that something was not a cipher, so that leads me to believe you might know one if you saw one. Is this one?

tdy ed21 etm230 busac

Anyone else, too, from the "Beautiful Mind" threads, have at it.
Thanks,
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Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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What was the source of this? An email?
RG (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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bump here your welcome
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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thnx!
TheBug (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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No, Loch Ness came back and apologized for being wrong on the EQ prediction, and said he would make no more predictions, but wanted to share his dream anyway. The code was written on his hand at the end of his dream, so he says he woke up and wrote it down. Something about it just intrigued me, that´s all. It could be nothing, of course!
If you want to read Loch Ness´s 2nd thread about his dream where this code appears, the subject line reads something like, "Sorry, I was wrong..." Can´t remember it exactly. But maybe a search would turn it up?
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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This is not a cipher. It looks like it sort of to the untrained eye.

It refers to a temporary duty assignment in military shorthand at Camp Busac in France I´m fairly sure...I could be wrong, but its the best I can do on the context.

It doesn´t fall into standard Beale cryptology..but the military shorthand is hard to miss.
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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ED21 refers back as a Structural and Loads Dynamics Group assigned to NASA.
TheBug (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Wow, you´re good! Thanks. He doesn´t sound like English is his first language. Ya think I was had?
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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etm230 is undecipherable without further context.

It may be a time notation of some sort.
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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I´ve no idea really. I don´t really know the situation behind it. But thats just the most logical projections of context I can give what you´ve shown me here.
TheBug (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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There was no context, except that in his dream. The code itself just appeared on his hand at the end of the dream.
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Well thats what I can come up with.

You have to realize though...you don´t dream in any language consistently. Characters don´t jibe up in a linguistic fashion in dreams. So what he saw could mean "Buy broccoli tommorrow on the way home" for all we know.

All I know is what it looks like to me. And then the background referencing I did to investigate and justify that opinion.
TheBug (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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LOL! Well, in the context of the dream, broccoli probably wouldn´t help much! Pretty much all hell was breaking lose, red mushroom clouds and such.
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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People tend to forget dreams aren´t to be taken at face value.

Depending on your psychological stances, dreams may be complex imagery of deep and sometimes obtuse symbolism....or they can simply be a process of flushing your brains cache and dealing with all the crap thats made its way in past the filter that you might not have been aware of..and means relatively nothing.

It really depends if you´re a Freudian or a Jungist.
~Marianne~ (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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or they can be precognative as well ;-)
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Thats unproven...but also a viable possibility but not one addressed solidly by mainstream neuropsychological science.

Regardless..I won´t argue the point because I don´t know myself on that.
TheBug (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Yes, I´ve read about both their viewpoints. So, do you think they can ever be literally (or even symbolically) prophetic? I´m not sure if I believe that or not, though part of me would sure like to.
~Marianne~ (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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can be literally. I have experienced it countless of times in my life.

edit: as have many, many others.
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Well regardless, as much as you believe it Marianne until its in a bucket on my desk theres not much I can say about it.

I´m not saying its impossible..its just something I´ve never experienced it...I´ve experienced a few weird things in my life so I know I don´t know everything...and maybe my talents are in another area.

Regardless...bucket...desk...logic is the only answer.
OKIE (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Pr0 you darling, you´ve been holding out on me. All this time I never knew, but was lurking around only to find out that Monday nights 7:00 CST I have a new place I should be going to or should I say listening to? Um hum, I´ll be there, proud as always.
~Marianne~ (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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in your opinion Pro. and that is fine. we are all entitiled to our own personal knowing. you and I do not agree on much at all, but that is fine ... simply agree to disagree ;-)
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12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Ahaha yes Okie..the radio show.

Someone must have tipped you off.

Bug...another interesting side note.

Camp Busac, as it was often referred to by US GIs (Or Bussac in the proper French) was a major US supply and engineering depot for US WWII involvement.

More interesting is that ED21 which now, in modern times the 21st Engineering Structural and Loads Dynamics Group which is commissioned under US Army Command to NASA at this time, was the 21st Engineering Division that handled the major US Army Corps of Engineers projects during WWII in the French and German theaters. And it was based at Camp Busac.

This may not have been a precognition. It might have been a re-cognition.
Pr0 (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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spam Sorry, forum is moving fast and I thought this latest information was interesting.
TheBug (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Wow, thanks, PrO,
Poor Loch Ness was really freaked out by it. He said something about knowing at the end of the dream that "the enemy was close". Don´t know if you´ve got this "in your bucket" or not, but that would suggest a previous life, it would seem. If I were Ness, I´d rather know it was that than think is was something in the future. Thanks so much for your digging. I never would have figured it out on my own!
TheBug (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Also, Okie:
As a former Okie, I salute you! Long live the place of red dirt!
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07/26/2007 11:24 AM
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@Article{Vicat:1993:CCA,
author = "Catherine Vicat and Alain Busac and Jean-Gabriel
Ganascia",
title = "{CERISE}: {A} Cyclic Approach for Knowledge
Acquisition",
journal = j-LECT-NOTES-COMP-SCI,
volume = "723",
pages = "237--??",
year = "1993",
CODEN = "LNCSD9",
ISSN = "0302-9743",
bibdate = "Mon May 13 11:49:00 MDT 1996",
acknowledgement = ack-nhfb,


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