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Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!

 
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Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!
Its legit. I got a bonus of $20K in 2009. It was not taxed. We used the money to pay off some credit cards.

Now, we owe $4100. I sent them a request to make payments which the IRS granted. I mailed in $100. $4000 balance, right.??

NOOOOOOO... Today, I received a statement saying we now owe $4185,00. The $185 is for interest, penalty and late fee.

My husband wants to call a tax attorney, but I don't know what he can do. We owe the $$$. We just have very little income this year and cannot pay it all off!!
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tim gietner said "oops"......try that.
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Re: Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!
Its legit. I got a bonus of $20K in 2009. It was not taxed. We used the money to pay off some credit cards.

Now, we owe $4100. I sent them a request to make payments which the IRS granted. I mailed in $100. $4000 balance, right.??

NOOOOOOO... Today, I received a statement saying we now owe $4185,00. The $185 is for interest, penalty and late fee.

My husband wants to call a tax attorney, but I don't know what he can do. We owe the $$$. We just have very little income this year and cannot pay it all off!!
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File BK
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call the tax advocacy group. They can advise you.
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Re: Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!
Over $4k? We have been holding off doing that over $50K in CC Debt. I didn't think an IRS lien could be discharged in BK court...

Correct me if I am wrong.

I am constantly battling with myself over working. I work 2 jobs just to pay min payments on all our debt. If I quit work, file BK, life would somehow be easier? however,
not able to get a loan on a car, a house??? lots to consider.
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10/30/2010 05:05 PM
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You will need an attorney to negotiate on your behalf. Get one asap.
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10/30/2010 05:09 PM
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Just realize you are not alone and you will figure it all out someday hf

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charge it on credit. u DONT want the I.R.S on your ass
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you have to add the penalty THEN THE PAYMENT-----If you don't pay 285.00 per month, you will NEVER PAY THEM OFF------WELCOME TO THE AMERICAN WAY--- someone posted a while back about business in the U.S..... it was great! On GLP the post was I have a business proposition for you---can't find it but it is so true!!!!
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Re: Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!
Its legit. I got a bonus of $20K in 2009. It was not taxed. We used the money to pay off some credit cards.

Now, we owe $4100. I sent them a request to make payments which the IRS granted. I mailed in $100. $4000 balance, right.??

NOOOOOOO... Today, I received a statement saying we now owe $4185,00. The $185 is for interest, penalty and late fee.

My husband wants to call a tax attorney, but I don't know what he can do. We owe the $$$. We just have very little income this year and cannot pay it all off!!
 Quoting: watchyousleepnurse



It's as if you now have yet another credit card pymt to take care of. As long as you send the IRS money pretty regularly, they'll leave you alone. But their computer will continue to generate the scary letters stating what you owe while tallying up the interest charges. It's not like anyone really knows you exist, it's all computer done. Just make sure you keep track of what you send them, like all cancelled checks. They make mistakes, too. They won't be filing leins and stuff like that unless you totally ignore them or don't hardly pay anything.

Why didn't your employer withhold taxes on the 20K?
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10/30/2010 05:21 PM
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Call that fat bearded guy we always see on television saying he can help you with your IRS problems. maybe he negotiate a lower pay-off.
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Seriously, skip the attorney. I know people that paid for one and they still had to pay. I would take the earlier advice and pay it now. No payments, pay it in full. Whether credit card, loan, whatever. Don't get them on you or they will become your shadow.
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10/30/2010 05:27 PM
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you could just set 20 % of it aside and paid your bills instead of being lowlife filth
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Now I know why the IRS ordered 50,000 new shotguns last fall...they expected to be VERY BUSY in the future!
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Re: Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!
Listen...EVERYTHING is negotiable...EVERYTHING.

If you can't afford the $4100..or even if you can...just offer them half, and make up a sob story. Sell the story to them, do your best used car salesman lines...they'll definitely take it. Otherwise they have to spend man hours collecting, and believe me, they HATE DOING THAT. All the IRS wants to do is CLEAR ITS BOOKS..that's it!
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10/30/2010 05:31 PM
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The best place for some free advice is your local H&R Block office. The won't charge you unless they end up filling out a form. Ask for the most experienced guy or gal in there and ask them about it. I worked HRB for 15 years and helped countless people with their IRS problems. They aren't all that scary as long as your paperwork jives and you don't ignore them.

Get a loan to pay it off if you want, but just make sure the interest on the loan isn't more than the interest the IRS is charging you. Also consider the fact that the IRS will withhold your next refunds until your debt is paid off.

I hope you're not in a state with income tax.
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Re: Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!
Its legit. I got a bonus of $20K in 2009. It was not taxed. We used the money to pay off some credit cards.

Now, we owe $4100. I sent them a request to make payments which the IRS granted. I mailed in $100. $4000 balance, right.??

NOOOOOOO... Today, I received a statement saying we now owe $4185,00. The $185 is for interest, penalty and late fee.

My husband wants to call a tax attorney, but I don't know what he can do. We owe the $$$. We just have very little income this year and cannot pay it all off!!



It's as if you now have yet another credit card pymt to take care of. As long as you send the IRS money pretty regularly, they'll leave you alone. But their computer will continue to generate the scary letters stating what you owe while tallying up the interest charges. It's not like anyone really knows you exist, it's all computer done. Just make sure you keep track of what you send them, like all cancelled checks. They make mistakes, too. They won't be filing leins and stuff like that unless you totally ignore them or don't hardly pay anything.

Why didn't your employer withhold taxes on the 20K?
 Quoting: Catseye

I was wondering the same thing. Why didn't your employer do this?
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Re: Ok, So we owe $4100 to the IRS , how do we NOT pay this!
Over $4k? We have been holding off doing that over $50K in CC Debt. I didn't think an IRS lien could be discharged in BK court...

Correct me if I am wrong.

I am constantly battling with myself over working. I work 2 jobs just to pay min payments on all our debt. If I quit work, file BK, life would somehow be easier? however,
not able to get a loan on a car, a house??? lots to consider.
 Quoting: watchyousleepnurse


Jeez, stop paying the credit cards and pay the taxes.

You can discharge credit cards in bankruptcy but not taxes.
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10/30/2010 06:20 PM
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Thats what I thought too.. can't discharge IRS>

The employer didn't withhold taxes because it was a one time BONUS check.

We actually paid off debt with the 20K all CC with high interest rates.

I will definitely look into tax advocacy and HR Block.

Thanks GLPers' awesome advice as always!!
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10/30/2010 06:37 PM
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Thats what I thought too.. can't discharge IRS>

The employer didn't withhold taxes because it was a one time BONUS check.

We actually paid off debt with the 20K all CC with high interest rates.

I will definitely look into tax advocacy and HR Block.

Thanks GLPers' awesome advice as always!!
 Quoting: watchyousleepnurse


If your credit is good, you might try going to the bank to get a personal loan. The interest rate on a personal loan should be cheaper than any interest the IRS or credit card companies would charge you.

I think going to HR Block is a better idea than going to a tax attorney in your case.

I don't think the amount you owe is large enough to make it worth your while to pay the fees a tax attorney would charge for his services. If the amount you owed was much larger, then a tax attorney would be the way to go, but not for $4K.

If you do decide to get a personal loan, it may not be a good idea to tell them why you need the money. I don't know.

I just think it is safer for you to owe money to the bank rather than owe money to the IRS. And also cheaper.
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The interest will keep accumulating! But from experience I can tell you, call the IRS and ask for help. Sometimes they will even make the amount you owe LESS. (sometimes) I think they even stopped interest on what I owed as long as I paid every month what I agreed to pay. The woman was surprisingly very nice. And this was before all the financial mess. Give it a shot banana2
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10/30/2010 06:45 PM
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Pay $100k if you love your country.
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10/30/2010 06:49 PM
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You made the money to be taxed on, didn't you?


By your own admission you owe the country that money.

Pay it!

I Pay my taxes and so do honest people.


If you want to live here pay what you owe.
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10/30/2010 06:52 PM
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Pay $100k if you love your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145419

Its hard to understand how people can become like this, this retarded and mind controlled.
Its like they have an organism living in their brains controlling them.
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10/30/2010 06:54 PM
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I Pay my taxes and so do honest people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751094

You don't pay your taxes retarded mind controlled zombie.
They are STOLEN from you without your choice.
You are NOT special because you might even like it.
The point is you do not pay them, they are taken.
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You are signatory with them....they got you by the shorthairs.

I guess ya could call 911 and tell them you were duped and now yer being robbed. I told a state attorney general that once and he said "To Bad I'm on theIRSide"

But then the Black Van Showed up and I Called 911 and told the sherrif to run off those trespasser thug bullies. He did last thing he said as he rode away was something about a "White horse".(to be continued)
Fake it till ya make it.. I am not next to IMPOSSABLE... I'm just ALL around it and In its Midst....evidently..LOL
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The best place for some free advice is your local H&R Block office. The won't charge you unless they end up filling out a form. Ask for the most experienced guy or gal in there and ask them about it. I worked HRB for 15 years and helped countless people with their IRS problems. They aren't all that scary as long as your paperwork jives and you don't ignore them.

Get a loan to pay it off if you want, but just make sure the interest on the loan isn't more than the interest the IRS is charging you. Also consider the fact that the IRS will withhold your next refunds until your debt is paid off.

I hope you're not in a state with income tax.
 Quoting: Catseye


You've been giving great advice. I would only add that even though OP's agreement is to repay the IRS at $100 monthly, he should make every effort to pay more than that.

I used to work for the IRS but I didn't know H&R Block gave free advice. Thanks for the information.
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You made the money to be taxed on, didn't you?


By your own admission you owe the country that money.

Pay it!

I Pay my taxes and so do honest people.


If you want to live here pay what you owe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751094

stfu

NO ONE should have to pay just because they exist. Even filthy scum like you.
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10/30/2010 07:22 PM
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Listen...EVERYTHING is negotiable...EVERYTHING.

If you can't afford the $4100..or even if you can...just offer them half, and make up a sob story. Sell the story to them, do your best used car salesman lines...they'll definitely take it. Otherwise they have to spend man hours collecting, and believe me, they HATE DOING THAT. All the IRS wants to do is CLEAR ITS BOOKS..that's it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941037


The IRS does not spend countless man hours collecting a $4,100 tax debt since most of the "collecting" is done by computer. If you don't pay, the IRS knows who you work for and where you bank. They will get their money one way or another. Further, I used to work for the IRS and most settlement offers (called Offers in Compromise) are rejected.

Some people who are temporarily unable to pay can have their account put in a "Currently Non Collectible" status. However, the IRS computers monitory the tax payer's yearly income and when it goes over a certain amount, the taxpayer automatically receives notices demanding payment.

The IRS computer system is unlike anything in the world. If you knew the information it contained you would know not to fuck with the IRS.

But, hey, if you think a sad story will work, go for it. IRS agents deserve a good laugh every now and then.
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Over $4k? We have been holding off doing that over $50K in CC Debt. I didn't think an IRS lien could be discharged in BK court...
 Quoting: watchyousleepnurse


pay the irs with your cc, then go bk!!!

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