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I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.

 
Rey Rogers

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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Wow. Just wow. Is this for real?
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Yes.

If they faked the images and footages, which is totally unimportant to you, could they have faked the whole thing?
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No. See previous.

I can come up with various reasons as to why they would have staged footage and imagery. You too?
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
I look at the evidence of fakery and there you go.



Again, and I'm getting tired of asking this, WHAT EVIDENCE OF FAKERY? Be specific.
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Go do your own research fool....check out "something happened on the way to the moon" check out Davesweb. Check the other moon hoax threads. You astroNOT believers are toast.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
5 miles, not a few hundred yards.



In which mission do you think the astronauts travelled 5 miles from their landing spot?


The big one in July 1969. I'm not 100% certain about the 5 miles. Some sources talk about 5, others about 2.5 and most talk about "several miles", but not yards.
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But you made the claim of 5 miles. Show me the two images taken 5 miles apart on the moon that you think show an identical background.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
I look at the evidence of fakery and there you go.



Again, and I'm getting tired of asking this, WHAT EVIDENCE OF FAKERY? Be specific.

Go do your own research fool....check out "something happened on the way to the moon" check out Davesweb. Check the other moon hoax threads. You astroNOT believers are toast.
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That video has been debunked and shot full of holes so many time its pathetic. But if you think that it shows "evidence" let's see it and your references. Give me an example. Before you waste my and your time, though, google it first to see how many ways it's been debunked.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Your either blind or retarded.


I think he's lying about his 30 year career as an astrophotographer.

Some people go really far when they defend the lies of the country they are in love with.



I didn't say that I had a 30 year career as an astrophotographer, now did I? I have a 30+ year career in television and video engineering. My astrophotography work can be seen in a number of books and on the web at

www.machunter.org/hapspics.html


With all due respect, but the website doesn't prove anything.



I know a thing or two about photography and have made a quite nice living from it. What are YOUR photographic critique credentials? Please be specific.
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What I know about photography is this: When you make a pic from an astronaut in from of him, close to him and his helmet is reflecting, you should see the photographer instead of the other astronauts "moonwalking".
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
The speed (ASA) of the Apollo film was typically very slow, since light on the lunar surface is abundant! Here are some reference articles:

[link to sterileeye.com]

[link to history.nasa.gov]

This films listed are:

Kodak Panatomic-X fine-grained, 80 ASA

Kodak Ektachrome SO-68 and SO-121, typically 160 ASA

Even the strong X-ray machines in airports will not fog film slower than ASA 800.

Also, by the time of Apollo, film had already been used in several lunar orbiters with onboard film processing equipment and fogging was not found to be an issue.

The NASA Lunar Orbiter (5 flights)...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and the Soviet Luna 3...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Fair enough, even though I can imagine airport X-ray machines have less influence on film then the conditions beyond earth´s atmosphere, but then again, maybe not.

Thanks for the links. If you have more info on the extra shielding used in the Hasselblad film casings I would appreciate it.
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
5 miles, not a few hundred yards.



In which mission do you think the astronauts travelled 5 miles from their landing spot?


The big one in July 1969. I'm not 100% certain about the 5 miles. Some sources talk about 5, others about 2.5 and most talk about "several miles", but not yards.


But you made the claim of 5 miles. Show me the two images taken 5 miles apart on the moon that you think show an identical background.
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I'm sure you know how to use Google.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
As Rey has already decided for himself after being a hoax believer, he now believes that Apollo really did happen. I'd love to see any of the HB's lay out a credible plan out just how it could have been done...in detail. Don't leave anything out. If you're so sure it was faked, let's see your scenario.

Let's see what you have....
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Wow. Just wow. Is this for real?


Yes.


If they faked the images and footages, which is totally unimportant to you, could they have faked the whole thing?


No. See previous.

I can come up with various reasons as to why they would have staged footage and imagery. You too?
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I can only make one conclusion if they faked the images and footages.......


You don't?
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Radiation fool radiation. Why would we not go back in 40 plus years? Why when its the most logical place for a base and a telescope and manufacturing and research? Why not even a rover? Your asking us to prove something that is now SO APPERANT is like (as I said before) asking me to prove your father and mother f'ed. Don't need to BECAUSE your here.
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5 miles, not a few hundred yards.



In which mission do you think the astronauts travelled 5 miles from their landing spot?


The big one in July 1969. I'm not 100% certain about the 5 miles. Some sources talk about 5, others about 2.5 and most talk about "several miles", but not yards.


But you made the claim of 5 miles. Show me the two images taken 5 miles apart on the moon that you think show an identical background.



I'm sure you know how to use Google.
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I didn't make the claim...YOU did. Are you now backing down from it?
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www.machunter.org/hapspics.html
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Nice!

Woohooo [link to www.machunter.org]

Very nice.
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
But you made the claim of 5 miles. Show me the two images taken 5 miles apart on the moon that you think show an identical background.



I'm sure you know how to use Google.



I didn't make the claim...YOU did. Are you now backing down from it?
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Lazy?
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Radiation fool radiation. Why would we not go back in 40 plus years? Why when its the most logical place for a base and a telescope and manufacturing and research? Why not even a rover? Your asking us to prove something that is now SO APPERANT is like (as I said before) asking me to prove your father and mother f'ed. Don't need to BECAUSE your here.
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You pontificate from obvious ignorance. Do you not realize that rovers DID go to the moon? And just what is the radiation level on the moon and in the VAB on the 30 degree inclination path that was traversed? Do you actually know, or are you just regurgitating something a kook web site told you?
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I guess bringing those "MOON ROCKS" back along with soil from the moon kind of clinched it right?
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But you made the claim of 5 miles. Show me the two images taken 5 miles apart on the moon that you think show an identical background.



I'm sure you know how to use Google.



I didn't make the claim...YOU did. Are you now backing down from it?



Lazy?
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Your evasion is noted and your claim laid to rest.
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Radiation fool radiation. Why would we not go back in 40 plus years? Why when its the most logical place for a base and a telescope and manufacturing and research? Why not even a rover? Your asking us to prove something that is now SO APPERANT is like (as I said before) asking me to prove your father and mother f'ed. Don't need to BECAUSE your here.
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Finally someone who is thinking.

Moon shills brainwashed by your Zionist media, please explain.
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Ahh, I love it. Beat the other guy with questions that are impossible to answer.

That was a wise move.
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Thanks for admitting that the question on how exactly Apollo was faked is impossible to answer.

A wise move indeed and congratulations of arriving at the same conclusion as I did. Hope I saved you some valuable quality time.
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
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I guess bringing those "MOON ROCKS" back along with soil from the moon kind of clinched it right?
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Yep, pretty much. When the Soviets LATER brought back samples with the same exact composition and geological characteristics.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
But you made the claim of 5 miles. Show me the two images taken 5 miles apart on the moon that you think show an identical background.



I'm sure you know how to use Google.



I didn't make the claim...YOU did. Are you now backing down from it?



Lazy?


Your evasion is noted and your claim laid to rest.
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Ok, you're lazy. Noted and laid to rest.

My 7 year old cousin would be able to find it without help.
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My 7 year old cousin would be able to find it without help.
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Good. When he finds it, bring it here and we'll go over it.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Ahh, I love it. Beat the other guy with questions that are impossible to answer.

That was a wise move.


Thanks for admitting that the question on how exactly Apollo was faked is impossible to answer.

A wise move indeed and congratulations of arriving at the same conclusion as I did. Hope I saved you some valuable quality time.
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Not so fast.

If the footage and pics were fake, and you seem to agree, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A LOGICAL CONCLUSION.
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My 7 year old cousin would be able to find it without help.


Good. When he finds it, bring it here and we'll go over it.
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Try with keywords.
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Typical HB. Make a stupid claim with NO evidence NOR references, and then call someone ELSE "lazy" when YOU won't go get references for the claims YOU made.

Priceless!
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Typical HB. Make a stupid claim with NO evidence NOR references, and then call someone ELSE "lazy" when YOU won't go get references for the claims YOU made.

Priceless!
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Priceless is someone who refuses to type keywords on Google.

Do you love your country?
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
I propose a break for the moon shills.

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Let me get this straight...YOU want ME to go find evidence for YOUR claim? Do I have that right?
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Radiation fool radiation. Why would we not go back in 40 plus years? Why when its the most logical place for a base and a telescope and manufacturing and research? Why not even a rover? Your asking us to prove something that is now SO APPERANT is like (as I said before) asking me to prove your father and mother f'ed. Don't need to BECAUSE your here.



You pontificate from obvious ignorance. Do you not realize that rovers DID go to the moon? And just what is the radiation level on the moon and in the VAB on the 30 degree inclination path that was traversed? Do you actually know, or are you just regurgitating something a kook web site told you?
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And this is why we don't engage in rational discourse with shills like you. Your ONLY hope of swaying opinion is with your word games and distractionary he said she said. ALL of the evidence is here on these threads already. You seek to bury it with a semantic word war. Who claims to have accsess to military information? Nasa is military. But we have footage that was released and the hindsight we have now makes it CLEAR....we never put men on the moon.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Radiation fool radiation. Why would we not go back in 40 plus years? Why when its the most logical place for a base and a telescope and manufacturing and research? Why not even a rover? Your asking us to prove something that is now SO APPERANT is like (as I said before) asking me to prove your father and mother f'ed. Don't need to BECAUSE your here.



You pontificate from obvious ignorance. Do you not realize that rovers DID go to the moon? And just what is the radiation level on the moon and in the VAB on the 30 degree inclination path that was traversed? Do you actually know, or are you just regurgitating something a kook web site told you?
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As expected, no response.
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Let me get this straight...YOU want ME to go find evidence for YOUR claim? Do I have that right?
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I want YOU to type keywords on Google, SINCE YOU SEEM TO BE INTERESTED!

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