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I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.

 
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Radiation fool radiation. Why would we not go back in 40 plus years? Why when its the most logical place for a base and a telescope and manufacturing and research? Why not even a rover? Your asking us to prove something that is now SO APPERANT is like (as I said before) asking me to prove your father and mother f'ed. Don't need to BECAUSE your here.



You pontificate from obvious ignorance. Do you not realize that rovers DID go to the moon? And just what is the radiation level on the moon and in the VAB on the 30 degree inclination path that was traversed? Do you actually know, or are you just regurgitating something a kook web site told you?

And this is why we don't engage in rational discourse with shills like you. Your ONLY hope of swaying opinion is with your word games and distractionary he said she said. ALL of the evidence is here on these threads already. You seek to bury it with a semantic word war. Who claims to have accsess to military information? Nasa is military. But we have footage that was released and the hindsight we have now makes it CLEAR....we never put men on the moon.
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Waving your arms and whining doesn't make it so. Point to something that YOU think is truly evidence of fakery...not something someone told you. Let's go over it in detail.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Let me get this straight...YOU want ME to go find evidence for YOUR claim? Do I have that right?



I want YOU to type keywords on Google, SINCE YOU SEEM TO BE INTERESTED!
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You've shown that you have no supporting evidence for your claim. Therefore it is basless.

Case closed.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
If they faked the images and footages, which is totally unimportant to you, could they have faked the whole thing?


No. See previous.

I can come up with various reasons as to why they would have staged footage and imagery. You too?


I can only make one conclusion if they faked the images and footages.......


You don't?
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That NASA employs some of the finest DTP engineers?

Come on, you can make several conclusions.

What if there is something on the Moon the general public may not be told? There is evidence to support this by the testimony of USAF Sgt. Karl Wolf:



Why take a risk? What´s the best way to avoid risk and have 100% control over what reached the retinas of the general public?

What if something went wrong during broadcast?

What if a flare wiped clean all the film?

Be creative and not negative.

And why the anti-patriotism? What, are you not proud to be Belgian?

O dierbaar België
O heilig land der Vaad'ren
Onze ziel en ons hart zijn u gewijd.
Aanvaard ons kracht en het bloed van onze ad'ren,
Wees ons doel in arbeid en in strijd.
Bloei, o land, in eendracht niet te breken;
Wees immer u zelf en ongeknecht,
Het woord getrouw, dat g' onbevreesd moogt spreken:
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.
Het woord getrouw, dat g' onbevreesd moogt spreken:
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.

O Vaderland, o edel land der Belgen,
Zo machtig steeds door moed en werkzaamheid,
De wereld ziet verwonderd uwe telgen,
Aan 't hoofd van kunst, van handel, nijverheid.
De vrijheidszon giet licht op uwe wegen,
En onbevreesd staart gij de toekomst aan.
Gij mint uw Vorst, zijn liefde stroomt u tegen,
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.
Gij mint uw Vorst, zijn liefde stroomt u tegen,
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.

Juicht Belgen, juicht in brede vol' akkoorden
Van Haspengouw tot aan het Vlaamse strand,
Van Noord tot Zuid, langs Maas- en Scheldeboorden,
Juicht, Belgen juicht, door gans het Vaderland.
Een man'lijk volk moet man'lijk kunnen zingen,
Terwijl het hart naar eed'le fierheid streeft.
Nooit zal men ons van onze haard verdringen
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.
Nooit zal men ons van onze haard verdringen
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.

Andere versie (van de hand van Victor Ceulemans):
Juicht! Belgen, juicht! in vreugdevolle akkoorden
Van Haspengouw tot aan het Vlaamsche strand
Van Noord tot Zuid, langs Maas en Scheldeboorden,
Juicht, Belgen, juicht, door gansch het Vaderland!
Een manlijk volk moet manlijk durven zingen
Terwijl het hart van eedle fierheid beeft;

Nooit zal men ons een morzel gronds ontwringen,
Zoolang één Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.(bis)

Geen morzel gronds, geen enkel van de rechten
Waarvoor het bloed der vadren heeft gevloeid,
Zoolang een man, een vrouw, een kind kan vechten,
Zoolang een hart in Belgisch harte gloeit.
Geen slavenboei wordt ooit ons aangevijzeld,
Geen schandig juk van vreemde dwinglandij,
Of 't wordt op 't hoofd des dwingelangs verbrijzeld
Ons Belgenland blijft eeuwig, eeuwig vrij. (bis)

Zingt hooger nog en laat Europa 't hooren,
Hier heeft de Vorst, de Grondwet in de hand,
Voor God en volk den heil'gen eed gezworen
Dat hij slechts leeft voor 't dierbaar Vaderland.
Naast d'eersten Belg staan moedvol al de Belgen,
Vol eendrachtszin ten heldendood gereed,
Die m'één voor één en allen moet verdelgen
Eér iemand ooit ons Land het zijne ziet. (bis)

Et, juste en cas-ou tu est de Wallonie:


O Belgique, ô mère chérie,
A toi nos coeurs, à toi nos bras,
A toi notre sang, ô Patrie !
Nous le jurons tous, tu vivras !
Tu vivras toujours grande et belle
Et ton invincible unité
Aura pour devise immortelle :
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !
Aura pour devise immortelle :
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !

Après des siècles, des siècles d'esclavage,
Le belge sortant du tombeau
A reconquis par son courage
Son nom ses droits et son drapeau.
Et ta main souveraine et fière,
Peuple désormais indompté,
Grava sur ta vieille banière :
"Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté"
"Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté"
"Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté"

Marche de ton pas énergique,
Marche de progrès en progrès!
Dieu qui protège la Belgique
Souris à tes mâles succès.
Travaillons! Notre labeur donne
A nos champs la fécondité
Et la splendeur des arts couronne
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté

Ô Belgique! Ô Mère chérie!
A toi nos coeurs, à toi nos bras.
A toi notre sang, ô Patrie
Nous le jurons tous, tu vivras.
Tu vivras toujours fière et belle,
Plus grande en ta forte unité
Gardant, pour devise éternelle
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté

cheer
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Let me get this straight...YOU want ME to go find evidence for YOUR claim? Do I have that right?



I want YOU to type keywords on Google, SINCE YOU SEEM TO BE INTERESTED!



You've shown that you have no supporting evidence for your claim. Therefore it is basless.

Case closed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880



You don't want to look for the info, because you love America.

Case closed.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
If they faked the images and footages, which is totally unimportant to you, could they have faked the whole thing?


No. See previous.

I can come up with various reasons as to why they would have staged footage and imagery. You too?


I can only make one conclusion if they faked the images and footages.......


You don't?


That NASA employs some of the finest DTP engineers?

Come on, you can make several conclusions.

What if there is something on the Moon the general public may not be told? There is evidence to support this by the testimony of USAF Sgt. Karl Wolf:



Why take a risk? What´s the best way to avoid risk and have 100% control over what reached the retinas of the general public?

What if something went wrong during broadcast?

What if a flare wiped clean all the film?

Be creative and not negative.

And why the anti-patriotism? What, are you not proud to be Belgian?

O dierbaar België
O heilig land der Vaad'ren
Onze ziel en ons hart zijn u gewijd.
Aanvaard ons kracht en het bloed van onze ad'ren,
Wees ons doel in arbeid en in strijd.
Bloei, o land, in eendracht niet te breken;
Wees immer u zelf en ongeknecht,
Het woord getrouw, dat g' onbevreesd moogt spreken:
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.
Het woord getrouw, dat g' onbevreesd moogt spreken:
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.
Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht.

O Vaderland, o edel land der Belgen,
Zo machtig steeds door moed en werkzaamheid,
De wereld ziet verwonderd uwe telgen,
Aan 't hoofd van kunst, van handel, nijverheid.
De vrijheidszon giet licht op uwe wegen,
En onbevreesd staart gij de toekomst aan.
Gij mint uw Vorst, zijn liefde stroomt u tegen,
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.
Gij mint uw Vorst, zijn liefde stroomt u tegen,
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.
Zijn hand geleidt u op de gloriebaan.

Juicht Belgen, juicht in brede vol' akkoorden
Van Haspengouw tot aan het Vlaamse strand,
Van Noord tot Zuid, langs Maas- en Scheldeboorden,
Juicht, Belgen juicht, door gans het Vaderland.
Een man'lijk volk moet man'lijk kunnen zingen,
Terwijl het hart naar eed'le fierheid streeft.
Nooit zal men ons van onze haard verdringen
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.
Nooit zal men ons van onze haard verdringen
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.
Zolang een Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.

Andere versie (van de hand van Victor Ceulemans):
Juicht! Belgen, juicht! in vreugdevolle akkoorden
Van Haspengouw tot aan het Vlaamsche strand
Van Noord tot Zuid, langs Maas en Scheldeboorden,
Juicht, Belgen, juicht, door gansch het Vaderland!
Een manlijk volk moet manlijk durven zingen
Terwijl het hart van eedle fierheid beeft;

Nooit zal men ons een morzel gronds ontwringen,
Zoolang één Belg, 't zij Waal of Vlaming leeft.(bis)

Geen morzel gronds, geen enkel van de rechten
Waarvoor het bloed der vadren heeft gevloeid,
Zoolang een man, een vrouw, een kind kan vechten,
Zoolang een hart in Belgisch harte gloeit.
Geen slavenboei wordt ooit ons aangevijzeld,
Geen schandig juk van vreemde dwinglandij,
Of 't wordt op 't hoofd des dwingelangs verbrijzeld
Ons Belgenland blijft eeuwig, eeuwig vrij. (bis)

Zingt hooger nog en laat Europa 't hooren,
Hier heeft de Vorst, de Grondwet in de hand,
Voor God en volk den heil'gen eed gezworen
Dat hij slechts leeft voor 't dierbaar Vaderland.
Naast d'eersten Belg staan moedvol al de Belgen,
Vol eendrachtszin ten heldendood gereed,
Die m'één voor één en allen moet verdelgen
Eér iemand ooit ons Land het zijne ziet. (bis)

Et, juste en cas-ou tu est de Wallonie:


O Belgique, ô mère chérie,
A toi nos coeurs, à toi nos bras,
A toi notre sang, ô Patrie !
Nous le jurons tous, tu vivras !
Tu vivras toujours grande et belle
Et ton invincible unité
Aura pour devise immortelle :
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !
Aura pour devise immortelle :
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !
le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté !

Après des siècles, des siècles d'esclavage,
Le belge sortant du tombeau
A reconquis par son courage
Son nom ses droits et son drapeau.
Et ta main souveraine et fière,
Peuple désormais indompté,
Grava sur ta vieille banière :
"Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté"
"Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté"
"Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté"

Marche de ton pas énergique,
Marche de progrès en progrès!
Dieu qui protège la Belgique
Souris à tes mâles succès.
Travaillons! Notre labeur donne
A nos champs la fécondité
Et la splendeur des arts couronne
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté

Ô Belgique! Ô Mère chérie!
A toi nos coeurs, à toi nos bras.
A toi notre sang, ô Patrie
Nous le jurons tous, tu vivras.
Tu vivras toujours fière et belle,
Plus grande en ta forte unité
Gardant, pour devise éternelle
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté
Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté

cheer
 Quoting: Rey Rogers



Uhum.... I'm not patriotic at all. In fact, I hope my non-existing country splits in 2 parts.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
What if something went wrong during broadcast?

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Recall that the EVA's were monitored by several ground stations and partially by amateurs. When would something have gone wrong that wasn't on live TV and heard by the Russians and other countries listening in to the biggest event in human history? The voice transmissions were not coded...that technology was still several years away. Normal narrowband FM was used on the S-Band system.
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880 is astronut
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880 is astronut
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Wrong. While I'm gratified that you think I am Astronut, I am not.
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What if something went wrong during broadcast?



Recall that the EVA's were monitored by several ground stations and partially by amateurs. When would something have gone wrong that wasn't on live TV and heard by the Russians and other countries listening in to the biggest event in human history? The voice transmissions were not coded...that technology was still several years away. Normal narrowband FM was used on the S-Band system.
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If I recall correctly the live video needed to be converted first before it was relayed to the rest of the world. That´s what I meant earlier when I said just the audio was live (for all who listened). That´s one of the reasons CBS showed an animation of the LM landing on the surface with live audio.

Because of the needed conversion the video feed could have been switched for staged video. I think this is something we will never know for sure.
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
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Uhum.... I'm not patriotic at all. In fact, I hope my non-existing country splits in 2 parts.
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Add the north to the nethalands and the south to france?

Might happen if I see how divided they already are, look at the mess after the general elections.

But... It´s ok to be a patriot, don´t be jealous of the Americans, they have been spoonfed patriotism since kindergarten by pledging allegiance of the flag etc.
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
What if something went wrong during broadcast?



Recall that the EVA's were monitored by several ground stations and partially by amateurs. When would something have gone wrong that wasn't on live TV and heard by the Russians and other countries listening in to the biggest event in human history? The voice transmissions were not coded...that technology was still several years away. Normal narrowband FM was used on the S-Band system.


If I recall correctly the live video needed to be converted first before it was relayed to the rest of the world. That´s what I meant earlier when I said just the audio was live (for all who listened). That´s one of the reasons CBS showed an animation of the LM landing on the surface with live audio.

Because of the needed conversion the video feed could have been switched for staged video. I think this is something we will never know for sure.
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The conversion was live. The video coming from the surface cameras was "slow scan"...that is, of a different number of lines and frames per second as broadcast TV video. This was because of the need to reduce the bandwidth of the video signal to the minimum neccessary to make the link budgets work. In later years, devices known as Frame Sync Correctors were used when one video standard had to be converted to another using lots of digital chips and bunches of memory. However, in 1969, the technique was simply to show the odd-format video on a screen and shoot the screen with a TV camera that DID have the correct scan rate for TV. An the Australian downlink site, the local media was right there shooting the action as the first images came in from the LM.

Here is a good reference for that first live video from the moon from Parkes Observatory in Australia...

[link to www.parkes.atnf.csiro.au]
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That´s what I meant earlier when I said just the audio was live (for all who listened). That´s one of the reasons CBS showed an animation of the LM landing on the surface with live audio.
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Uh, yeah. Who would have shot the LM going down from the outside? The animation shows the LM from the outside and how they thought it would have looked. There was live video from a window mounted camera showing the landscape and approaching the landing spot. Don't you recall seeing the dust being blown out of the way?
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Uhum.... I'm not patriotic at all. In fact, I hope my non-existing country splits in 2 parts.


Add the north to the nethalands and the south to france?

Might happen if I see how divided they already are, look at the mess after the general elections.

But... It´s ok to be a patriot, don´t be jealous of the Americans, they have been spoonfed patriotism since kindergarten by pledging allegiance of the flag etc.
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Totally agreeing with the last sentence, but that is exactly their weakness. Patriotism leads to chronical blindness.

Imagine a patriot realizing that their beloved country has lied to them since they were in kindergarten.


I know one other country where they spoonfeed patriotism to toddlers. North-Korea. And we all know what effect it has to the population of N-Korea, how they stand behind their leader, like blind idiots.

Patriotism is a weapon.
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You mean the dust that never settled on the landing pads? Or on anypart of the crinkly foil taped to the side of the fake lander? That dust?
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You mean the dust that never settled on the landing pads? Or on anypart of the crinkly foil taped to the side of the fake lander? That dust?
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Yes, that dust. Why do you think it would "settle" on the landing pads when it is being blow radially away with no air to make it hang?

And that "crinkly foil"...you mean like the thermal MLI is on every satellte ever launched? That crinkly foil?
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BTW, Rey, here is some info on the Parkes Observatory tracking the A11 spacecraft on the way to the moon. Note the discovery of the refraction pattern in the received signal strength as it is occulted by passing behind the moon.

[link to www.parkes.atnf.csiro.au]
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You mean the dust that never settled on the landing pads? Or on anypart of the crinkly foil taped to the side of the fake lander? That dust?


Yes, that dust. Why do you think it would "settle" on the landing pads when it is being blow radially away with no air to make it hang?

And that "crinkly foil"...you mean like the thermal MLI is on every satellte ever launched? That crinkly foil?
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Yah the foil TAPED on the pipe legs. Foil on satelites is one thing...that stuff all crinkled and taped to a LANDER? With some dudes in it? Something thats supposed to manuver? HAhahah yah that foil...the VERY clean shinney non dusty foil.
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Footprints but no burn in mark under the "lander". You know the lander that NEVER worked (not even once) in testing. The lander that almost killed its operator.
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You mean the dust that never settled on the landing pads? Or on anypart of the crinkly foil taped to the side of the fake lander? That dust?


Yes, that dust. Why do you think it would "settle" on the landing pads when it is being blow radially away with no air to make it hang?

And that "crinkly foil"...you mean like the thermal MLI is on every satellte ever launched? That crinkly foil?
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Here's some more of that "crinkly foil", as you call it, in use on everything from commercial satellites to interplanetary probes. It is used for thermal control.

It might help if you learned something about a subject before criticizing it.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.launchphotography.com]

[link to www.hps-gmbh.com]


[link to imgsrc.hubblesite.org]

[link to www.celestiamotherlode.net]
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
5 miles, not a few hundred yards.



In which mission do you think the astronauts travelled 5 miles from their landing spot?


The big one in July 1969. I'm not 100% certain about the 5 miles. Some sources talk about 5, others about 2.5 and most talk about "several miles", but not yards.
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You know, if one of us referred to "some sources," you'd be all over us. The fact is that you can almost fit the entire Apollo 11 moonwalk inside a baseball diamond:

[link to history.nasa.gov]

For those not familiar with baseball, the diamond in the center of the image is 90 feet (27 meters) on a side.
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They brought a VW buggy but no telescope? Hmmmm. Who assembled the buggy? Or did they cram it in under the foil?
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I can see how that foil would really help manuver the lander. Sure looks like it would help. Hows that stuff held on? Must be good tape eh?
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10/31/2010 10:50 PM
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What was the stated purpose of the VW? And tell me what was learned from the tons of rocks brought back?
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10/31/2010 10:53 PM
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Footprints but no burn in mark under the "lander".
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Why would there be a "burn mark" under the lander? Show your math. Are there "burn marks" under a Harrier VTOL?

You know the lander that NEVER worked (not even once) in testing. The lander that almost killed its operator.
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First the LM was never tested in full earth gravity since it was never designed to operate in an atmosphere or in full gravity. Howevr, the LM WAS fully tested in space...where it would ultimately operate. Are you not aware of the unmanned LM tests in earth orbit on Apollo 5 and the manned test on Apollo 9? It was flown in lunar orbit to within a few thousand feet of the surface on Apollo 10. So it was fully tested in three flights before being used for the landing on Apollo 11.


Again, arrogance from ignorance. You HB's don't do your case any good when you show so much blatant ignorance of the very program that you try to discredit.
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10/31/2010 10:55 PM
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
They brought a VW buggy but no telescope? Hmmmm. Who assembled the buggy? Or did they cram it in under the foil?
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Do you people EVER read, or just wave your arms and rant? You are clearly demonstrating your vast ignorance of the most well known things about Apollo.

As has been said here many times before...those who deny Apollo are precisely those who know the absolute least about it.

You demonstrate this very nicely, thank you.
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10/31/2010 10:56 PM
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What was the stated purpose of the VW? And tell me what was learned from the tons of rocks brought back?
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What "VW" whould that be?
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
IF THE MOON LANDINGS WERE FAKED, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TIME TO FIX LANCE ARMSTRONG'S FAMOUS QUOTE

"One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

THE INTENDED PHRASE WAS

"One small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind"

For all of the effort they went through "faking" it, they'd be able to re-tape it and get it right, no?


Little things like that and the spontaneity of pretty much everything they did made it apparent that nothing was scripted.
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Footprints but no burn in mark under the "lander". You know the lander that NEVER worked (not even once) in testing. The lander that almost killed its operator.
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This is the kind of ignorant BS that makes us want to tear our hair out.

The lunar module was thoroughly tested three times prior to Apollo 11:

Apollo 5 - unmanned test in Earth orbit
Apollo 9 - manned test in Earth orbit
Apollo 10 - manned test in lunar orbit

The famous failure that caused Neil Armstrong to eject was in the Lunar Landing Research Vehicle (LLRV), which was a machine designed to help train the astronauts in flying the lunar module while in Earth's gravity and atmosphere. The LLRV has about as much in common with the LM as a flight simulator does with an actual 747.

And, despite the LLRV's reputation (due in large part to that spectacular failure), it had over a hundred successful flights. Here's a photo of the team celebrating the 100th successful one:

[link to www.dfrc.nasa.gov]
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I can see how that foil would really help manuver the lander. Sure looks like it would help. Hows that stuff held on? Must be good tape eh?
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Why would you think it helped to maneuver the LM? Is the term "thermal control" completely beyond your level of understanding?
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Hows that stuff held on? Must be good tape eh?
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Why would it have to be "good tape"? What's going to pull it off?

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