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I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.

 
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It's ironic that most of these hoax believers think they are somehow liberated from conspiratorial media influence when in actuality they all seem to be watching Youtube and uncritically swallowing all sorts of ridiculous theories.

Once "TPTB" get the populace dumbed down enough to accept the average youtube video as valid information it will be even easier to manipulated the masses.
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APOLLO MISSIONS = EPIC FAKE

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APOLLO MISSIONS = EPIC FAKE


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The first two claims are both bogus:

Yes, there was a color TV camera aboard the command module. That was because it had access to a bigger antenna capable of sending more data back.

The claim that the networks had to film off the screen and weren't provided a direct feed is simply untrue. It is true that the images were converted from the slow-scan format sent back by the spacecraft to a broadcastable television format by pointing a camera at the screen showing the former, but that was done at the tracking station. The resulting feed was sent to Houston and also to the networks all over the world.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Get back to me on the super foil tape and the VW. The telescope would have been handy eh?
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Why would a telescope be handy? They weren't there to look at stars, they went to study the Moon. And BTW, Apollo 14 did take a telescope.
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I have a couple null questions:

Why have there been no studies of other earth live forms in space beyond the radiation belts? Fruit flies or fungus, it would be important that if we are ever to truely go into deep space that extensive biological studies be done there. Why haven't they been done?

Why have no manned space flights ever been done to repair the very very important communication satellites out at Gyosync, that is only a tenth of the way to the Moon?



Moon Rocks are actual Moon Rocks, but they were picked up on the Anarctic Ice Cap by several extensive expeditions NASA sent there for that purpose
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It is cheaper to send up a new satellite than design a mission, go through training, and then launch the mission. And don't forget, those are owned by private companies. They take the insurance payment.

The Antarctic Moon rocks were not identified as Moon rocks
until some 10 year after Apollo. Then compared the Antarctic rocks and the lunar samples and found the same composition.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
Well, lets take India´s Chandrayaan-1, the much hailed mission to chart the entire moon´s surface into an interactive encyclopedia? So far they have released only a fraction of the pictures, all the while they have been up there since 2008 with an estimate of 70.000+ images taken, of which I have found only about 100 as of yet.

And would it be that far fetched that if the Moon did contain artifacts that those images are witheld from public view via strict policies made between those countries on a high level?

You must be aware that Clementine images for one show "smudges" at certain areas and that certain LRO images contain remarkable construction like items.

I guess you do not believe the testimony by Sgt. Karl Wolf?

I have spent many a day going over LRO images and found a lot of interesting material. But ofcourse anything can be explained either way, you say rock, I say tower etc.

Hopefully we are near full disclosure.
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Chandrayaan-1 data products are here

[link to www.isro.org]

but they lost contact and the mission was not completed.

You also have to understand the way images are obtained. These are all images obtained with CCD chips, similar to ones used in digital cameras, although the ones used in space are space hardened. When transmitted down the images are images at all. They are in engineering units, called level 0 data. The data stream has to be converted into an image format useful for scientific analysis. That is Level 2 or Level 3 data. This is actually a lengthy process to go from Level 0 to Level 2 for 70,000+ images and can take years.

Also, the developers of the instruments and the original experiment planners have proprietary rights to the data for some period of time. It can be one to five years. This is true of most science experiments. The instruments are designed for a particular science mission. When the developers are done then others can have the data, after the proprietary period is up. They do release some data incrementally and you do see that on the web site.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
bottom line: we must rely on lying sacks of dog shit for the truth. i am not impressed and neither am i buying it. i dont even give a fuck if we went. we shouldnt have and should not go back. we should learn not to destroy this orb before tramping around another.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
bottom line: we must rely on lying sacks of dog shit for the truth. i am not impressed and neither am i buying it. i dont even give a fuck if we went. we shouldnt have and should not go back. we should learn not to destroy this orb before tramping around another.
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Why do all you hoax believers have to be such foul mouthed idiots? It's looking like that's a requirement. But maybe its because you are showing the same lack of intelligence in your speech that you've shown in analyzing the Apollo program.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
You're not answering my question about patriotism. Trust me, I know the answer and I also know why you're avoiding it. Patriotism makes people blind.

Backgrounds on the moon, different places, but the same background. It should be clear.



No I am not. It is irrelevant and ad hominem.

Since you aer unable to provide any evidence supporting your claim, there must not be any problem with the backgrounds.
 Quoting: Commutator



You seem to make conclusions pretty fast when it suits you.
I gave you everything you needed to look it up yourself. I'm sure you know how to use Google.

It's not just the backgrounds. Many pictures don't make sense, the Van Allen Belt, testimonies of astronauts, etc.

Being patriotic is HIGHLY relevant. It is the very reason why you and many others are defending the lie. It is so relevant that I have to use a proxy, because someone complained about the link I showed between patriotism and moon shilling. I'm banned now. That's how far the blind love for America goes.

Patriotism is a weapon.
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It's not just the backgrounds. Many pictures don't make sense
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Which ones?

the Van Allen Belt
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What about it? Dr. Van Allen himself said it was no problem for Apollo since they only skirted the edge of the VAB and did it quickly. Remember, the VAB is over the equator and the path to the moon is at a 30 degree angle above that.
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You seem to make conclusions pretty fast when it suits you.
I gave you everything you needed to look it up yourself. I'm sure you know how to use Google.

It's not just the backgrounds. Many pictures don't make sense, the Van Allen Belt, testimonies of astronauts, etc.

Being patriotic is HIGHLY relevant. It is the very reason why you and many others are defending the lie. It is so relevant that I have to use a proxy, because someone complained about the link I showed between patriotism and moon shilling. I'm banned now. That's how far the blind love for America goes.

Patriotism is a weapon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1124905



I do not do your research for you. If you are too lazy and incapable of providing evidence to support your argument you really don't have an argument at all. Saying Google it is just a childish cop out.

Clearly you are trying to turn this into an issue on patriotism. This is just an attempt at a red herring. You can’t really argue you point so you try to change the subject and then introduce ad hominem attacks.

Present evidence or admit you have not argument.
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I gave you everything you needed to look it up yourself. I'm sure you know how to use Google.

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If you're going to make a claim, then make it and give your references. You can't expect someone who doesn't believe you to do your homework for you.
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Re: I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.
THEY ONLY FAKED THE FIRST MOON LANDING.ONE OF NIXON,S {GRAND MASTER MASON AT THE TIME}
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It's not just the backgrounds. Many pictures don't make sense


Which ones?


the Van Allen Belt

What about it? Dr. Van Allen himself said it was no problem for Apollo since they only skirted the edge of the VAB and did it quickly. Remember, the VAB is over the equator and the path to the moon is at a 30 degree angle above that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1149179



Ok the pics are all real and the Van Allen Belt is something I made up.

Don't watch Apollo Zero. You don't want to see the astronauts go nuts when confronted with their lies.

Which ones? For Christ sake. All of them. Try to make a pic of an astronaut right in front of him. He's wearing a reflecting helmet, but all you see are the other astronauts, but no photographer.

I'm crazy for making such a conclusion and you're right. God bless America. What a good country to live in.
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THEY ONLY FAKED THE FIRST MOON LANDING.ONE OF NIXON,S {GRAND MASTER MASON AT THE TIME}
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Hmmm. Nixon was sworn in as president January 20, 1969 and Apollo 11 landed on July 20, 1969. So somehow Nixon faked this in 6 months. right
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You're not answering my question about patriotism. Trust me, I know the answer and I also know why you're avoiding it. Patriotism makes people blind.

Backgrounds on the moon, different places, but the same background. It should be clear.
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And emotionalism makes people stupid.

Can you or can you not come up with a logical reason, or understand logical reasons, or are knee-jerk reactions based on pop psychology all your mind is capable of?
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Ah. Well, works for me. I'm still amazed we went to the moon without a single microprocessor on board.
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This has probably been addressed, but, no, that is incorrect. The assembled stack had four different microprocessors, the most famous being the AGC. All were compact computers utilizing integrated circuits.

On the other hand, neither V1 nor V2 had trouble hitting targets, and they did not contain anything resembling modern electronics.

Read up sometime on analog computers. You might be surprised at what they could accomplish in their day!


Of course, the Astronauts were some smart cats but still. That was some stone age tech they used.
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We never went to the moon and Commontater has ipso facto admitted his status as a government shill.
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We never went to the moon and Commontater has ipso facto admitted his status as a government shill.
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No. I am not a government shill but you have proved that you are being paid by a foreign government. Guess that make you a traitor.
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You're not answering my question about patriotism. Trust me, I know the answer and I also know why you're avoiding it. Patriotism makes people blind.

Backgrounds on the moon, different places, but the same background. It should be clear.


And emotionalism makes people stupid.

Can you or can you not come up with a logical reason, or understand logical reasons, or are knee-jerk reactions based on pop psychology all your mind is capable of?
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LOL, coming from a dumb American who has been forced to stand for the pledge of allegiance since he's wearing diapers.

America, The Land of the Free. My ass. Nazi Germany was a scout camp compared to the USA.

Logical reasoning is non-existing in your mental state. But for once I will defend the American people: It's not their fault they are brainwashed robots.
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bottom line: we must rely on lying sacks of dog shit for the truth. i am not impressed and neither am i buying it. i dont even give a fuck if we went. we shouldnt have and should not go back. we should learn not to destroy this orb before tramping around another.


Why do all you hoax believers have to be such foul mouthed idiots? It's looking like that's a requirement. But maybe its because you are showing the same lack of intelligence in your speech that you've shown in analyzing the Apollo program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1149179

dont give me that happy horseshit. is this the one exception that they havent lied to us about? get real and grow up. believing means nothing. the truth means everything. i have yet to have the truth of the matter adequately demonstrated to me either way. what we have been told cannot be the whole truth.

and btw, if the elite in our society werent such lying sacks of dog shit i wouldnt have to call them that.
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LOL, coming from a dumb American who has been forced to stand for the pledge of allegiance since he's wearing diapers.
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Try again, nimwad. The school district I completed most of my schooling in discontinued the Pledge a long while back.

My one regret is I never got the chance to learn all the wrong words, like some people do (aka "I led the pidgeons to...one nation invisible..." etc.)


America, The Land of the Free. My ass. Nazi Germany was a scout camp compared to the USA.

Logical reasoning is non-existing in your mental state. But for once I will defend the American people: It's not their fault they are brainwashed robots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1124905


Emotional belief is easy. It is also easily wrong. This is why engineers and scientists do not use a "gut instinct" to tell them if something works. They test. They measure. They calculate.

Can you do any of these for your belief? I can and have for mine.
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It's ironic that most of these hoax believers think they are somehow liberated from conspiratorial media influence when in actuality they all seem to be watching Youtube and uncritically swallowing all sorts of ridiculous theories.

Once "TPTB" get the populace dumbed down enough to accept the average youtube video as valid information it will be even easier to manipulated the masses.
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EXACTLY.

With all their dislike and fear of science, they are easy prey to liars. The Rethuglicans are in utter joy at the cluelessness they have helped to inspire in the masses. Could a Palin ever get elected if people were using facts and logic? No, sir. She requires buzz words and emotionalism.

These are the same people who let the paid shills (yes, there are some!) of the oil industry convince them to vote against any attempt to control AGW, who let the coal industry convince them their environmentally dangerous activities are better than the alternatives, who had let the tobacco industry push poison for far too many years (the science showing the dangers of cigarettes was already recognized by the 1950's!)

Removing the ability to do logic, apply scientific method, and yes to use math, is EXACTLY what big business and politics wants them to do. With every bleat of their "But we're free thinkers!" they make themselves increasing slaves to another's control.

The thugs and liars are winning.
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I gave you everything you needed to look it up yourself. I'm sure you know how to use Google.



If you're going to make a claim, then make it and give your references. You can't expect someone who doesn't believe you to do your homework for you.
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I refuse. It's like asking "Open the package of my candy."
You're old enough to find the info yourself. I'm able to find this by typing "moon landing different location same background miles". You should be able to find all this with a variety of keywords.

Apparently, for some reason, you don't want to. Instead, you prefer to play these stupid games since 2 days.

By repeating this over and over, you only show how weak you are. Trust me, I know why you're doing this.

You brainwashed idiot with a 2-figure IQ. You represent the American people and the average education in the USA VERY well.
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You brainwashed idiot with a 2-figure IQ. You represent the American people and the average education in the USA VERY well.
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By the way, the penis pumps don't actually make you any bigger.

Try not to hurt yourself dick.
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You brainwashed idiot with a 2-figure IQ. You represent the American people and the average education in the USA VERY well.


By the way, the penis pumps don't actually make you any bigger.

Try not to hurt yourself dick.
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What does a penis pump have to do with the discussion? Typical dumb American rhetoric.

The Pisa tests have shown that the USA has the lowest educational level in the Western World and this thread is proving it.

The moon landing scam is the easiest hoax to see through along with the 911 official bullshit story. You're insulting the intelligence of a 10 year old if you believe in the lie.

This is the result of patriotism mixed with aspartame/fluoride, all provided by your Zionist government.
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The moon landing scam is the easiest hoax to see through along with the 911 official bullshit story. You're insulting the intelligence of a 10 year old if you believe in the lie.

This is the result of patriotism mixed with aspartame/fluoride, all provided by your Zionist government.
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You're the one blindly falling for all the unsubstantiated bullshit that is tossed your way.
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It's ironic that most of these hoax believers think they are somehow liberated from conspiratorial media influence when in actuality they all seem to be watching Youtube and uncritically swallowing all sorts of ridiculous theories.

Once "TPTB" get the populace dumbed down enough to accept the average youtube video as valid information it will be even easier to manipulated the masses.
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NOT if Youtube videos keep giving TPTB wedgies all the time. You are obviously a paragon of the "dumbed down" peasantry.
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You brainwashed idiot with a 2-figure IQ. You represent the American people and the average education in the USA VERY well.


By the way, the penis pumps don't actually make you any bigger.

Try not to hurt yourself dick.


What does a penis pump have to do with the discussion? Typical dumb American rhetoric.

The Pisa tests have shown that the USA has the lowest educational level in the Western World and this thread is proving it.

The moon landing scam is the easiest hoax to see through along with the 911 official bullshit story. You're insulting the intelligence of a 10 year old if you believe in the lie.

This is the result of patriotism mixed with aspartame/fluoride, all provided by your Zionist government.
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Yes.

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