I Give Up: The Apollo moon missions were UN-fakeable. They went and I must deal with that.

It should be clear. Same background, different location. You can't have the same background on different location. Science or no science.

Are you patriotic? Honest answer, please.



You're trying to engage in ad hominem attacks. Stick to the subject.

I still don't know what you are talking about. What backgrounds, what locations. I can't read your mind. Be specific.

You're not nearly at the "there is no other option than we went stage. Your information is not at all complete. Heres where you went wrong ... Humans could not survive the VAB. We never went to the moon.

You're not nearly at the "there is no other option than we went stage. Your information is not at all complete. Heres where you went wrong ... Humans could not survive the VAB. We never went to the moon.

To conclude - yes they went. They did not die of radiation in the VAB, CIS lunar space and on the Moon. Now what they saw over there is a different ballgame. And finally I do believe SOME of the images and footage was modified "smudged" to hide certain artifacts or items on or near the moon. There is probably a clear reason for this. There also might have been a film set where they did shoot some footage pre-mission, but that could have been a failsafe for the case something happened during the first mission (A11) and is unlikely to have been used in subsequent missions, unless there was a specific reason to show footage of areas which contained classified material in the background(s) in which case(s) they probably did need to replace some footage with pre-recorded samples.

Overall - It´s been a nice fight, but after nine years (give or take) I am back in the Apollo camp simply by elimination of all other options.

Reference thread here: Thread: Why do so many doubt the moon landing?

I don´t think I will dount Apollo again, even though I doubt some of the images and footage, but that´s besides the point.

Although I apologise to the surviving astronauts, I wish they would disclose what the hell happened up there which caused all the censorship.

There is something fishy about the Moon.

Spain out.



I applaud your honesty. thank you

There was no missile, but they were filming a round earth shot through a small round window, trying to make it look like earth was far away. But the thing I mention here is that I see them in orbit there and always assumed they would have been in orbit months for practicing.
Then maybe on 'launch date' they launch a unmanned vehicle transmitting pretaped recordings. I'm not sure if it could be seen from earth, the actual landing on the moon, can it?


The three of them never went into orbit together for practice afaik.

I think you are right that the actual landing could not be seen on earth. Not "live" at least. Just audio was live.

It should be clear. Same background, different location. You can't have the same background on different location. Science or no science.

Are you patriotic? Honest answer, please.



You're trying to engage in ad hominem attacks. Stick to the subject.

I still don't know what you are talking about. What backgrounds, what locations. I can't read your mind. Be specific.



You're not answering my question about patriotism. Trust me, I know the answer and I also know why you're avoiding it. Patriotism makes people blind.

Backgrounds on the moon, different places, but the same background. It should be clear.

So how exactly did they survive the radiation between the Earth and the Moon?


The shielding must have been sufficient.



Ah. Well, works for me. I'm still amazed we went to the moon without a single microprocessor on board. Of course, the Astronauts were some smart cats but still. That was some stone age tech they used.

On a side note, I constantly wonder why we haven't sent a rover to the moon. It would be far cheaper than sending another to Mars. We've barely scratched the surface of the moon, no pun intended. We could even explore the dark side of the moon with proper relays and back up battery power.

At 1'14'', just under the waving flag.

To much radiation.

Not enough fuel.

There is wind and frogs on the moon and the landscape is always the same, whereever you go. If that makes sense to you and makes you feel good, all the best my friend.


So basically you are saying because they staged some footage and some images they did not go to the moon?

It proves that they staged some footage and images.

And your frog is ghosting, nothing more.

If you wish to see a picture that was staged look into this visor: [link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

Astronaut? Where is his camera? Where is his backpack? Happy now?

If they were unfakeable, that means there are frogs on the moon.


At 1'14'', just under the waving flag.

To much radiation. Not enough fuel. Period.

If they were unfakeable, that means there are frogs on the moon.


At 1'14'', just under the waving flag.

So how exactly did they survive the radiation between the Earth and the Moon?


The shielding must have been sufficient.



Ah. Well, works for me. I'm still amazed we went to the moon without a single microprocessor on board. Of course, the Astronauts were some smart cats but still. That was some stone age tech they used.

On a side note, I constantly wonder why we haven't sent a rover to the moon. It would be far cheaper than sending another to Mars. We've barely scratched the surface of the moon, no pun intended. We could even explore the dark side of the moon with proper relays and back up battery power.

So how exactly did they survive the radiation between the Earth and the Moon?

That's one of the many unanswered questions. The Van Allen belt.

The "sun" doesn't look like it should look either.

Oh and Photoshop existed in 1969.

There is wind and frogs on the moon and the landscape is always the same, whereever you go. If that makes sense to you and makes you feel good, all the best my friend.


So basically you are saying because they staged some footage and some images they did not go to the moon?

It proves that they staged some footage and images.

And your frog is ghosting, nothing more.

If you wish to see a picture that was staged look into this visor: [link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

Astronaut? Where is his camera? Where is his backpack? Happy now?


I'm sorry, but I just don't see what you're talking about. If you zoom in to 400%, you can see the equipment (camera) on his front and he is facing the subject, so his backpack is obviously in the opposite direction.

Oh and Photoshop existed in 1969.

I'm sure that would be a big surprise to Adobe!

Oh and Photoshop existed in 1969.

I'm sure that would be a big surprise to Adobe!


Bill Gates didn´t even have pubic hair back in 1969 and Windows were those things you wiped with a cloth.

It should be clear. Same background, different location. You can't have the same background on different location. Science or no science.

Are you patriotic? Honest answer, please.



You're trying to engage in ad hominem attacks. Stick to the subject.

I still don't know what you are talking about. What backgrounds, what locations. I can't read your mind. Be specific.



You're not answering my question about patriotism. Trust me, I know the answer and I also know why you're avoiding it. Patriotism makes people blind.

Backgrounds on the moon, different places, but the same background. It should be clear.



When the background is miles away, it looks the same from different locations seperated by only a few hundred yards. Haven't you ever seen mountains in the background as you're driving?

So when you're in the Sahara (a much better example than mountains), is the background the same when you move miles away?

Patriotism is the reason why you keep on defending the lie.

What was the point of gathering tons of "moon" rocks?

What did we learn?

Where are those pesky "moon" rocks?

Also who gets all this top secret MILITARY Nasa info?

What was the point of gathering tons of "moon" rocks? What did we learn?

Where are those pesky "moon" rocks?

Also who gets all this top secret MILITARY Nasa info? 40 years ago there were some men who went to the moon? And THIS year we found traces of water?

The WHOLE thing stinks to high heaven.

What is the simple answer WITH the most evidence? We faked it.

All I will say is enjoy the link. ;)
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