i won't be around for chat, but i'll post now. i lived in cali for a long time, and i'm against this form of legalization for state profit - $50 an oz.?!! this route will allow a tax to always exist in some form and the state to regulate the tax. not only is this methodology absurb [for a plant] and out of proportion with the tax rate on tobacco, & probably exaggerated above the booze tax rate as well.

as with everything the california government does, i don't have much confidence for this endeavor to be ran effectively, reasonably, sanely, or for the benefit of the taxed consumers.

yes, some of the prop 215 ppl & the clubs are mostly against this, apparently, mostly for financial reasons, but i understand the opposition to the route of implementation of legalization. the bars and alcohol lobby is opposed, too, but for fear of loss of revenue. then, you have your moms and churchladies that make some valid points, but are mostly fearmongering and slinging the same old bs anti propaganda, dead brain cells and backwardly-masked, satanic lyrics and all.

the freedom and liberty issues of this issue are valid - AND THE MOST SERIOUS SOLE ISSUE of this proposition.

i don't believe giving the states the right to administer the distrib, to be the middleman in the pot biz, to GIVE THE GOV CONTROL OF THE POT, is something any sane society would want to allow, to automatically give the state the right to be the gatekeeper and automatically give up the easily-documentable Constitutional basis for allowance for the personal cultivation of cannabis [Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness] which the Framers would have had a problem with government management of any aspect thereof.

anyone have the links to Jefferson's and Washington's grow journals that document their findings in increasing female plants, flower size, and flowering times? they obviously were growing smoking bud. - and would have a problem with the gov messing around in these matters. not a gov issue. nazi punks fuck off.