Can anyone here play the piano? - i need help

Hows it go.... whats better than roses on a piano?

Hows it go.... whats better than roses on a piano?

yea im pretty good

Hows it go.... whats better than roses on a piano?

Tulips(two lips) on my organ...... haha

yea im pretty good

Ive got good ear for music and i can learn quick by ear,, so i started trying to learn piano seriously..,

Heres where im stuck and im looking for some mega tips or speedlearning crash course type exercise or anything to help me past this barrier.

Specifically its playing to things at once when they dont even seem to be the same timing, like out of synch like syncopated? like i learn the left hand part and learn the right hand part but when i put them together my brain explodes

HELP

yea im pretty good

Ive got good ear for music and i can learn quick by ear,, so i started trying to learn piano seriously..,

Heres where im stuck and im looking for some mega tips or speedlearning crash course type exercise or anything to help me past this barrier.

Specifically its playing to things at once when they dont even seem to be the same timing, like out of synch like syncopated? like i learn the left hand part and learn the right hand part but when i put them together my brain explodes

HELP

LEt me know if your proficient at piano.

yea im pretty good

Ive got good ear for music and i can learn quick by ear,, so i started trying to learn piano seriously..,

Heres where im stuck and im looking for some mega tips or speedlearning crash course type exercise or anything to help me past this barrier.

Specifically its playing to things at once when they dont even seem to be the same timing, like out of synch like syncopated? like i learn the left hand part and learn the right hand part but when i put them together my brain explodes

HELP



Not to get you into a bad habit, but on many pieces of music, there are chord guides at the top of each measure. These guides will let you know which cord to play along with the melody. There are a lot of Fake books out there that only has the melody and the chord guides. Of course, you would need to know what each cord is on the piano in order to play them by the guides, but sometimes people learn to play this way.

Unfortunately, not everyone can play the piano note for note, so many people rely on these types of techniques, and actually do quite well with it. A lot of "Lounge" pianists use Fake books and go by the chord guides.

Just a thought.

like i learn the left hand part and learn the right hand part but when i put them together my brain explodes

HELP

LEt me know if your proficient at piano.


no short cuts Im afraid the best players by ear were classically trained

if you want to know a secret learn scales practice them...its the building blocks whatever instrument you want to play

This might sound like bad advice, depending on how much you are willing to take on at once...but I found that learning guitar at the same time made it so much simpler to learn both than had I tried to learn each separately. The two are quite related, considering the difference in their appearances!

Ive got good ear for music and i can learn quick by ear,, so i started trying to learn piano seriously..,

Heres where im stuck and im looking for some mega tips or speedlearning crash course type exercise or anything to help me past this barrier.

Specifically its playing to things at once when they dont even seem to be the same timing, like out of synch like syncopated? like i learn the left hand part and learn the right hand part but when i put them together my brain explodes

HELP

This might sound like bad advice, depending on how much you are willing to take on at once...but I found that learning guitar at the same time made it so much simpler to learn both than had I tried to learn each separately. The two are quite related, considering the difference in their appearances!

i can play guitar,, this is me
when i was quite shit

like i learn the left hand part and learn the right hand part but when i put them together my brain explodes

HELP


Practice your scales (one hand at a time, then both together):

go through 1 octave in every key, then 2 octaves in every key, then 3 octaves in every key. Basically, to do this, the easiest way is the just start on C, then C#, then D, then E flat, then E, etc...use both hands at the same time, then practice in triplets.

Once you get to this point, practice major/minor chords in each key, with both hands. When you do master this, then start playing one hand in key while the other hand just plays chords in the key...so that you're doing "two things at once"...This is one of my favorite things to play around with because if you get pretty good with rhythm, people will think you're actually playing a song when you're just improvising.

Another idea is to get some books that focus on music theory...There are books which get a person used to practicing doing 2 different things with both hands as well.

If you have the patience to start out with the lower level stuff, get a bunch of lesson books and just master each song in the books, one at a time. You'll find yourself able to play with both hands with practice.

The scales and music theory stuff is like a warmup for your fingers. You can type with both hands probably...there's a learning curve for the piano, just the same as a computer keyboard.

If you're jumping head first into intermediate music, your head will feel like it's going to explode. :> Slow down, take a step back, take a deep breath, and start from the beginning. There's no benefit diving into an empty pool headfirst.

Good luck ^_^

Your question is about playing with both hands, and syncopated...

The only advice I can give is to slow the song down A LOT...

Use a metronome.

When the song gets "under your fingers", then you can speed it up a few clicks at a time.

Honestly, though...If you go with my advice and get proficient at a song or two this way...Then it gets MUCH MUCH easier later. Kinda like reading. You gotta work on the fundamentals first.

As far as fundamentals: scalar work with the proper finger placement and posture will help your dexterity, playing longevity, and give you muscle memory. Eventually you'll KNOW what to play and how, without having to think about it much...kinda like reading.

Good luck.

... Thanks for the ideas... But i have no time to do this,, i want to break all the rules and dive right in, i want crash course with all the tricks and shortcuts in the book... i want to play.

... But i think i can pretty much get propper finger placement(not too sure tho). Is one meant to use the pinky on the left hand?? Is it really bad to learn advanced stuff on a keyboard without weighted keys??/

My younger son started piano at age 4 and played for a couple years, then quit. But he didn't have too much trouble with this.

Why? Probably because he was 4.

I read that this aspect of doing two rather separate things with the two hands develops a specific area of the brain. On musicians who have developed this ability they can see an actual bump on the brain (not on the skull though) in a particular area where the brain grew.

You're probably past the age where the brain grows so fast. So it will take more work. But I agree with others in this thread, the classical training is designed to develop that ability, and my son's lessons involved it almost from the very beginning.

Your question is about playing with both hands, and syncopated...

The only advice I can give is to slow the song down A LOT...

Use a metronome.

When the song gets "under your fingers", then you can speed it up a few clicks at a time.

Honestly, though...If you go with my advice and get proficient at a song or two this way...Then it gets MUCH MUCH easier later. Kinda like reading. You gotta work on the fundamentals first.

As far as fundamentals: scalar work with the proper finger placement and posture will help your dexterity, playing longevity, and give you muscle memory. Eventually you'll KNOW what to play and how, without having to think about it much...kinda like reading.

Good luck.

Thats more like it.... Straight to the point no messing around....

Only problem is cant afford lessons...

But i think i can pretty much get propper finger placement(not too sure tho). Is one meant to use the pinky on the left hand?? Is it really bad to learn advanced stuff on a keyboard without weighted keys??/

... But i think i can pretty much get propper finger placement(not too sure tho). Is one meant to use the pinky on the left hand?? Is it really bad to learn advanced stuff on a keyboard without weighted keys??/

Well yes I think situations come up where the left pinky is used. But before you think that a "real" piano is hard, try a decent grand. They have a nicer easier action than uprights.