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Endtimewatchman
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I do know that Camping pushes his doctrine that the Lord has decided who is saved or not probably before you are born. I don't buy it. Call into his forum and if you disagree with him he cuts you off. He has an answer for everything.
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God is the bridegroom and is coming for his bride, have you ever known any bride not to know when their wedding date is! All brides know when they are getting married so they can prepare.


We welcome your questions:

TimeandJudgment_May212011@yahoogroups.com


"...blow the trumpet...warn the people"
Judgment Day ezekiel 33:3

May 21, 2011

THE BIBLE GUARANTEES IT





We can only hope that false teacher Harold Camping will live long enough to see his deception fail. He'll probably kick off on May 20th, and escape ridicule.



Words of emcourgement coming from a true believer.

Has nothing to do with him bro.

The bible declares that this will happen,you should be thankful that God gives this warning. There is still time to seek out God that he may have mercy,in 197 days it will be too late.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


I am sure you mean well, but I must say to you that if you are not A Jehovah Witness (Which I doubt you would admitt anyway) you certainly are in line with their teachings just as is Mr. Camping.

In these new fellowships which believe in Mr, Campings false teaching of the Bible, there is to be no discipline, no baptism, no communion, and no authority apart from Family Radio's interpretation of the Bible.

Mr. Camping rejects 1 Corinthians 11:26 that says we are to proclaim the Lord's death, till He comes.

He rejects the clear teaching that the gates of Hades will not prevail against His church (Matthew 16:18).

With even greater certainty than he had in 1994, Mr. Camping now says abandon the elders who provide watch over your soul (Hebrews 13:17), who are to shepherd the flock (1 Peter 5:1-3), and feed them (Acts 20:17-28).

Do we no longer need shepherds other than Mr. Camping? Do we no longer need men to watch for our souls? Do we no longer need to be reconciled to brothers (Matthew 18)? If we do, what church is to judge it? Is Mr. Camping our pope who will judge for us?

Family Radio may not be the Watchtower Tract and Bible Society, but it is built on the same wrong-headed interpretations of Scripture, the same date-setting, the same recalculations, the same accusations of complete apostasy, and the same claim to be the last true channel of God's Word.

We do live in a day of great apostasy. Churches do more often than not resemble circuses and stage shows, but the church has always had these troubles. The church has also had predators who point out these problems to get you to follow them. The Jehovah's Witnesses point out the pagan origins of Christmas and Easter celebrations, but only to lead you into some greater error and that is exactly what I see you doing as well. Now is the time for faithfulness, not just another form of apostasy.

Like the Jehovah's Witnesses, Mr. Camping accuses anyone who differs with him of not really believing the Bible and accuses them of being idolatrous of their church. The true idol here is Mr. Camping. Will Christians read the Bible for themselves and search the Scriptures to know if these things are true, or will they blindly follow Mr. Camping into yet another false prophecy? And what will be the result for them if they do?
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!
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God is the bridegroom and is coming for his bride, have you ever known any bride not to know when their wedding date is! All brides know when they are getting married so they can prepare.


We welcome your questions:

TimeandJudgment_May212011@yahoogroups.com


"...blow the trumpet...warn the people"
Judgment Day ezekiel 33:3

May 21, 2011

THE BIBLE GUARANTEES IT


in truth i think your right pal cos england has the referendum on that exact date so thats when its decision time for me and alot of other people we say no we die tbh i would rather be a slave to the almighty with free will than a slave without it and i will happily goto my death to prove to him just how much love i have for him ok granted ive done wrong in my life and made enough mistakes i havent followed all the commandments but death for him is my ultimate proof that i love him and jesus and i will not have that taken from me no matter what



We love him because he loved us first.Meaning God has done everything for salvation,we are all spiritually dead,we can't have faith,repent,believe,love,etc unless God has giving us a new heart,we are dead without him.He loves his people and he has giving us the exact dates and possible "hour" 12noon Jerusalem time from what is gather in the Bible. It will be May 21 2011 on every land mass in the world for a minute or two on that day and hour.



I encourage you to sit down right now and write out a news realease for May 22, 2011.

I can see that you are sincere and I certainly do not mean to be mean spirited BUT, HAVING READ THE WORD OF GOD ABOUT THE DANGERS OF SETTING DATES, HOW CAN YOU CONTINUE TO DO SO IN IGNORANCE???
 Quoting: Major 1101606


A new release has been done,CNN,NYT,SFC,etc have done storys of this.The Bible commands his people to be as watchman and sound the alarm of impending judgment.This is being proclaim throughout the entire world translated in 51 different langanges,caravans throughout the US.

a true believer would obey God an be as the Berens to search the scriptues whether these things are true of not.
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!
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The true church is the elected individual were that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

Two in bed,one taken one left,two working in the field one left one taken,two grinding at the mill one left one taken.

do not forsake the assembling (gathering together)of "ourselves"(as an individual with Christ)as "WE" see (know) the day (judgment day)approching.
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God is the bridegroom and is coming for his bride, have you ever known any bride not to know when their wedding date is! All brides know when they are getting married so they can prepare.


We welcome your questions:

TimeandJudgment_May212011@yahoogroups.com


"...blow the trumpet...warn the people"
Judgment Day ezekiel 33:3

May 21, 2011

THE BIBLE GUARANTEES IT





We can only hope that false teacher Harold Camping will live long enough to see his deception fail. He'll probably kick off on May 20th, and escape ridicule.



Words of emcourgement coming from a true believer.

Has nothing to do with him bro.

The bible declares that this will happen,you should be thankful that God gives this warning. There is still time to seek out God that he may have mercy,in 197 days it will be too late.


I am sure you mean well, but I must say to you that if you are not A Jehovah Witness (Which I doubt you would admitt anyway) you certainly are in line with their teachings just as is Mr. Camping.

In these new fellowships which believe in Mr, Campings false teaching of the Bible, there is to be no discipline, no baptism, no communion, and no authority apart from Family Radio's interpretation of the Bible.

Mr. Camping rejects 1 Corinthians 11:26 that says we are to proclaim the Lord's death, till He comes.

He rejects the clear teaching that the gates of Hades will not prevail against His church (Matthew 16:18).

With even greater certainty than he had in 1994, Mr. Camping now says abandon the elders who provide watch over your soul (Hebrews 13:17), who are to shepherd the flock (1 Peter 5:1-3), and feed them (Acts 20:17-28).

Do we no longer need shepherds other than Mr. Camping? Do we no longer need men to watch for our souls? Do we no longer need to be reconciled to brothers (Matthew 18)? If we do, what church is to judge it? Is Mr. Camping our pope who will judge for us?

Family Radio may not be the Watchtower Tract and Bible Society, but it is built on the same wrong-headed interpretations of Scripture, the same date-setting, the same recalculations, the same accusations of complete apostasy, and the same claim to be the last true channel of God's Word.

We do live in a day of great apostasy. Churches do more often than not resemble circuses and stage shows, but the church has always had these troubles. The church has also had predators who point out these problems to get you to follow them. The Jehovah's Witnesses point out the pagan origins of Christmas and Easter celebrations, but only to lead you into some greater error and that is exactly what I see you doing as well. Now is the time for faithfulness, not just another form of apostasy.

Like the Jehovah's Witnesses, Mr. Camping accuses anyone who differs with him of not really believing the Bible and accuses them of being idolatrous of their church. The true idol here is Mr. Camping. Will Christians read the Bible for themselves and search the Scriptures to know if these things are true, or will they blindly follow Mr. Camping into yet another false prophecy? And what will be the result for them if they do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101606



JW do not believe Jesus is God,The Bible declares they are one,I do not attend 'any'corporate church,they have fell away just as national Iseral did in the OT.

We can focus or thoughts and form our opinions on a mere man,however we must have our eyes open to the truth by God alone.
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Why have there been so many people before you providing 'guaranteed' Judgement dates and all of them have been wrong. What makes MAY 21 2011 any more credible than those past predictions?



Because the Bible is the word of God and the Bible has revel this information in our day,it has always been there!

There is zero doubt that this will happen! no one can be convince unless God has open your spiritual eyes,i can't make anyone believe.

If you have a question please go to the above mention forum and ask,you will find a lot of people who have a vast range of knowledge of this.

It is foolish not to at least seek out the matter.





I have fully investigated this, and Harold Camping is a madman. I listen to him regularly, for the entertainment value, because I will say... He IS funny!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to give me all his money and property on May 20th.


You are absolutely correct!

I have made it a point in my life these days I have to find out about false teachers as well.

—Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." —Matthew 7:15

Harold Camping is a false prophet! The following are just a few of his false doctrines that have been taught:

1. Harold Camping proclaimed the Lord's return would be in 1994!

2. Harold Camping now proclaims the Lord's return will be in October, 20, 2011!

3. Harold Camping (Family Radio) has aired Mormon advertisements!

4. Harold Camping taught that NO ONE was saved between 1988 through 1994!

5. Harold Camping teaches that the church age ended in 1994!

6. Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

7. Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

Clearly, Harold Camping is NOT a true Christian, and has fabricated his own cult.
 Quoting: Major 1101606



your stated "facts" that are either totally false or misrepersented,you have no Idea what you are talking about bro.

Focus on God and his word,if you are a true believer you will know truth.
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I do know that Camping pushes his doctrine that the Lord has decided who is saved or not probably before you are born. I don't buy it. Call into his forum and if you disagree with him he cuts you off. He has an answer for everything.
 Quoting: Endtimewatchman 1150378



Eph:1
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:


God proclaims this,not HC.
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I was listening to short wave radio last night and American Family Radio headed by Harold Camping gave a half hour dissertation about May 21 and how they came up with it. I am somewhat sceptical but you can be sure I will be watching that date.
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Watching will not be enough,we must all be born again.

Search out the web sites provided (at the beginning)and a forum where you can ask questions.
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!
 Quoting: Endimewatchman 1150378


Personally I have no problem with that but it is not what the Scriptures tell us to do now is it?

Hebrews 10:25
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together".
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I was listening to short wave radio last night and American Family Radio headed by Harold Camping gave a half hour dissertation about May 21 and how they came up with it. I am somewhat sceptical but you can be sure I will be watching that date.


Watching will not be enough,we must all be born again.

Search out the web sites provided (at the beginning)and a forum where you can ask questions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


No need to watch my friend...if you are born again dates have no meaning at all for the Bible tells us that TODAY IS THE DAY OF SALVATION.
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!


Personally I have no problem with that but it is not what the Scriptures tell us to do now is it?

Hebrews 10:25
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together".
 Quoting: Major 1101606



The Bible interpets itself;

1 Thess:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our GATHERING TOGETHER unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

The word assembling in Heb.10;25 is the same word "gathering together". Both are in context of the coming of our Lors.

we are to Gather together of "ourselves" unto Christ,not in a group as "we" (the true believers)see (know)the day (judgment day) approching.

We are to rely totally on him,as saved individual's,drawing closer to him,we stand alone.
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Why have there been so many people before you providing 'guaranteed' Judgement dates and all of them have been wrong. What makes MAY 21 2011 any more credible than those past predictions?



Because the Bible is the word of God and the Bible has revel this information in our day,it has always been there!

There is zero doubt that this will happen! no one can be convince unless God has open your spiritual eyes,i can't make anyone believe.

If you have a question please go to the above mention forum and ask,you will find a lot of people who have a vast range of knowledge of this.

It is foolish not to at least seek out the matter.





I have fully investigated this, and Harold Camping is a madman. I listen to him regularly, for the entertainment value, because I will say... He IS funny!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to give me all his money and property on May 20th.


You are absolutely correct!

I have made it a point in my life these days I have to find out about false teachers as well.

—Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." —Matthew 7:15

Harold Camping is a false prophet! The following are just a few of his false doctrines that have been taught:

1. Harold Camping proclaimed the Lord's return would be in 1994!

2. Harold Camping now proclaims the Lord's return will be in October, 20, 2011!

3. Harold Camping (Family Radio) has aired Mormon advertisements!

4. Harold Camping taught that NO ONE was saved between 1988 through 1994!

5. Harold Camping teaches that the church age ended in 1994!

6. Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

7. Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

Clearly, Harold Camping is NOT a true Christian, and has fabricated his own cult.



your stated "facts" that are either totally false or misrepersented,you have no Idea what you are talking about bro.

Focus on God and his word,if you are a true believer you will know truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


Well my friend, my stated "facts" come stright from Mr. Camings on mouth so I guess you need to call them Mr. Campings ideas, not mine. I simply posted what he said and they are 100% true.

AS for focusing on God, my dear friend, that is what YOU NEED TO DO instead of listening to a false teacher and then trying to parrot what he tells you.

READ THE BIBLE bro, and especially the part where Jesus says we are not to set dates. IT IS WRONG TO DO SO AND YOU ARE WRONG TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

It will not happen and it will make you look like a fool, a liar is what the God haters will call you and you will in fact HARM THE CAUSE FOR CHRIST.

How can you be so brain washed????????
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I was listening to short wave radio last night and American Family Radio headed by Harold Camping gave a half hour dissertation about May 21 and how they came up with it. I am somewhat sceptical but you can be sure I will be watching that date.


Watching will not be enough,we must all be born again.

Search out the web sites provided (at the beginning)and a forum where you can ask questions.


No need to watch my friend...if you are born again dates have no meaning at all for the Bible tells us that TODAY IS THE DAY OF SALVATION.
 Quoting: Major 1101606


The Bible says for his people that day will not over take you as a theif:

1 Thess:
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

Rev:3:3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

many other verses too:

If he comes as a theif to any of us then we remain in darkness (loss).
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Why have there been so many people before you providing 'guaranteed' Judgement dates and all of them have been wrong. What makes MAY 21 2011 any more credible than those past predictions?



Because the Bible is the word of God and the Bible has revel this information in our day,it has always been there!

There is zero doubt that this will happen! no one can be convince unless God has open your spiritual eyes,i can't make anyone believe.

If you have a question please go to the above mention forum and ask,you will find a lot of people who have a vast range of knowledge of this.

It is foolish not to at least seek out the matter.





I have fully investigated this, and Harold Camping is a madman. I listen to him regularly, for the entertainment value, because I will say... He IS funny!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to give me all his money and property on May 20th.


You are absolutely correct!

I have made it a point in my life these days I have to find out about false teachers as well.

—Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." —Matthew 7:15

Harold Camping is a false prophet! The following are just a few of his false doctrines that have been taught:

1. Harold Camping proclaimed the Lord's return would be in 1994!

2. Harold Camping now proclaims the Lord's return will be in October, 20, 2011!

3. Harold Camping (Family Radio) has aired Mormon advertisements!

4. Harold Camping taught that NO ONE was saved between 1988 through 1994!

5. Harold Camping teaches that the church age ended in 1994!

6. Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

7. Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

Clearly, Harold Camping is NOT a true Christian, and has fabricated his own cult.



your stated "facts" that are either totally false or misrepersented,you have no Idea what you are talking about bro.

Focus on God and his word,if you are a true believer you will know truth.


Well my friend, my stated "facts" come stright from Mr. Camings on mouth so I guess you need to call them Mr. Campings ideas, not mine. I simply posted what he said and they are 100% true.

AS for focusing on God, my dear friend, that is what YOU NEED TO DO instead of listening to a false teacher and then trying to parrot what he tells you.

READ THE BIBLE bro, and especially the part where Jesus says we are not to set dates. IT IS WRONG TO DO SO AND YOU ARE WRONG TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

It will not happen and it will make you look like a fool, a liar is what the God haters will call you and you will in fact HARM THE CAUSE FOR CHRIST.

How can you be so brain washed????????
 Quoting: Major 1101606



I am sorry you remain in darkness my friend.

It is not too late to cry out for mercy.
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!


Personally I have no problem with that but it is not what the Scriptures tell us to do now is it?

Hebrews 10:25
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together".



The Bible interpets itself;

1 Thess:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our GATHERING TOGETHER unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

The word assembling in Heb.10;25 is the same word "gathering together". Both are in context of the coming of our Lors.

we are to Gather together of "ourselves" unto Christ,not in a group as "we" (the true believers)see (know)the day (judgment day) approching.

We are to rely totally on him,as saved individual's,drawing closer to him,we stand alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


I think I am beginning to see the problem here. You really do not study the Bible do you my young friend. You are hearing a false teacher without the help of the Holy Spirit to help you.

First of all you quoted the wrong Scripture.

What you posted in found in 2 Thessalonians NOT 1 Thess.

Verse 1...........
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him".

That is the Rapture.

You see, the reason for Paul writing those words was to TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS COMING THE SECOND TIME.

Then just as you are today, were people trying to deceive the saints. The rumors were that He had already come and they missed Him. They had stopped planting crops and were just sitting and waiting.

Verse 3...
"Let no man deceive you by any means, for THAT DAY shall not come except there come a falling away first, and then that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition."

For May 21, 2011 to be the day of Jesus returen, the Rapture would have to have taken place 6 and 1/2 years ago and the antichrist would be in controle of the WORLD.

Do you see how wrong your thesis is???????

As for the The phrase “Gathering together” is episunagoges, “a gathering together, an assembly.” This is clearly a reference to the event described in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Episunagoges is used only here and in Hebrews 10:25 of the congregation of believers.

We are in agreement BUT....in Thessalonians the focus/context is The Rapture in which Jesus GATHERS His church to Himself and in Hebrews the context/focus is on
Assembling together, meeting together, or gathering together. Notice that the word is "assembling" and not "the assembly". Hebrews 10:25 teaches us that we are not to forsake "the assembly", which means Sunday Church services in today's language.
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Why have there been so many people before you providing 'guaranteed' Judgement dates and all of them have been wrong. What makes MAY 21 2011 any more credible than those past predictions?



Because the Bible is the word of God and the Bible has revel this information in our day,it has always been there!

There is zero doubt that this will happen! no one can be convince unless God has open your spiritual eyes,i can't make anyone believe.

If you have a question please go to the above mention forum and ask,you will find a lot of people who have a vast range of knowledge of this.

It is foolish not to at least seek out the matter.





I have fully investigated this, and Harold Camping is a madman. I listen to him regularly, for the entertainment value, because I will say... He IS funny!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to give me all his money and property on May 20th.


You are absolutely correct!

I have made it a point in my life these days I have to find out about false teachers as well.

—Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." —Matthew 7:15

Harold Camping is a false prophet! The following are just a few of his false doctrines that have been taught:

1. Harold Camping proclaimed the Lord's return would be in 1994!

2. Harold Camping now proclaims the Lord's return will be in October, 20, 2011!

3. Harold Camping (Family Radio) has aired Mormon advertisements!

4. Harold Camping taught that NO ONE was saved between 1988 through 1994!

5. Harold Camping teaches that the church age ended in 1994!

6. Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

7. Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

Clearly, Harold Camping is NOT a true Christian, and has fabricated his own cult.



your stated "facts" that are either totally false or misrepersented,you have no Idea what you are talking about bro.

Focus on God and his word,if you are a true believer you will know truth.


Well my friend, my stated "facts" come stright from Mr. Camings on mouth so I guess you need to call them Mr. Campings ideas, not mine. I simply posted what he said and they are 100% true.

AS for focusing on God, my dear friend, that is what YOU NEED TO DO instead of listening to a false teacher and then trying to parrot what he tells you.

READ THE BIBLE bro, and especially the part where Jesus says we are not to set dates. IT IS WRONG TO DO SO AND YOU ARE WRONG TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

It will not happen and it will make you look like a fool, a liar is what the God haters will call you and you will in fact HARM THE CAUSE FOR CHRIST.

How can you be so brain washed????????



I am sorry you remain in darkness my friend.

It is not too late to cry out for mercy.
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My o my. So when you are faced with the TRUTH of God's Word which can not be disputed by yourself, you fall to the same pit as do the atheists in that you now question my relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

WHY??????

BECAUSE I DISGREED WITH YOUR NONE BIBLICAL PRACTICE OF SETTING A DATE FOR THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST.
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!


Personally I have no problem with that but it is not what the Scriptures tell us to do now is it?

Hebrews 10:25
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together".



The Bible interpets itself;

1 Thess:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our GATHERING TOGETHER unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

The word assembling in Heb.10;25 is the same word "gathering together". Both are in context of the coming of our Lors.

we are to Gather together of "ourselves" unto Christ,not in a group as "we" (the true believers)see (know)the day (judgment day) approching.

We are to rely totally on him,as saved individual's,drawing closer to him,we stand alone.


I think I am beginning to see the problem here. You really do not study the Bible do you my young friend. You are hearing a false teacher without the help of the Holy Spirit to help you.

First of all you quoted the wrong Scripture.

What you posted in found in 2 Thessalonians NOT 1 Thess.

Verse 1...........
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him".

That is the Rapture.

You see, the reason for Paul writing those words was to TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS COMING THE SECOND TIME.

Then just as you are today, were people trying to deceive the saints. The rumors were that He had already come and they missed Him. They had stopped planting crops and were just sitting and waiting.

Verse 3...
"Let no man deceive you by any means, for THAT DAY shall not come except there come a falling away first, and then that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition."

For May 21, 2011 to be the day of Jesus returen, the Rapture would have to have taken place 6 and 1/2 years ago and the antichrist would be in controle of the WORLD.

Do you see how wrong your thesis is???????

As for the The phrase “Gathering together” is episunagoges, “a gathering together, an assembly.” This is clearly a reference to the event described in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Episunagoges is used only here and in Hebrews 10:25 of the congregation of believers.

We are in agreement BUT....in Thessalonians the focus/context is The Rapture in which Jesus GATHERS His church to Himself and in Hebrews the context/focus is on
Assembling together, meeting together, or gathering together. Notice that the word is "assembling" and not "the assembly". Hebrews 10:25 teaches us that we are not to forsake "the assembly", which means Sunday Church services in today's language.
 Quoting: Major 1101606



I stand corrected 2 Thess ch:2

Again,

you are not reading the whole Bible,you are trusting what your church has said,I too for over 40 years listen to them instead of the word of God.

The Bible is a spiritual book,you will only understand if you are one of the elect.

The word assembling is only used 2 times in the Bible (not talking about asemble)It means "gathering together" in the org. greek,used 1 time in the hebrew,still means gather.

It is the same word and in the same context:

1 John:4

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The Bible is clear that satan is the anichrist,he has always been here,not to come some man in the future.The Bible does not support that view.

I can't argue or convince anyone into truth,it is up to God.
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Why have there been so many people before you providing 'guaranteed' Judgement dates and all of them have been wrong. What makes MAY 21 2011 any more credible than those past predictions?



Because the Bible is the word of God and the Bible has revel this information in our day,it has always been there!

There is zero doubt that this will happen! no one can be convince unless God has open your spiritual eyes,i can't make anyone believe.

If you have a question please go to the above mention forum and ask,you will find a lot of people who have a vast range of knowledge of this.

It is foolish not to at least seek out the matter.





I have fully investigated this, and Harold Camping is a madman. I listen to him regularly, for the entertainment value, because I will say... He IS funny!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to give me all his money and property on May 20th.


You are absolutely correct!

I have made it a point in my life these days I have to find out about false teachers as well.

—Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." —Matthew 7:15

Harold Camping is a false prophet! The following are just a few of his false doctrines that have been taught:

1. Harold Camping proclaimed the Lord's return would be in 1994!

2. Harold Camping now proclaims the Lord's return will be in October, 20, 2011!

3. Harold Camping (Family Radio) has aired Mormon advertisements!

4. Harold Camping taught that NO ONE was saved between 1988 through 1994!

5. Harold Camping teaches that the church age ended in 1994!

6. Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

7. Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

Clearly, Harold Camping is NOT a true Christian, and has fabricated his own cult.



your stated "facts" that are either totally false or misrepersented,you have no Idea what you are talking about bro.

Focus on God and his word,if you are a true believer you will know truth.


Well my friend, my stated "facts" come stright from Mr. Camings on mouth so I guess you need to call them Mr. Campings ideas, not mine. I simply posted what he said and they are 100% true.

AS for focusing on God, my dear friend, that is what YOU NEED TO DO instead of listening to a false teacher and then trying to parrot what he tells you.

READ THE BIBLE bro, and especially the part where Jesus says we are not to set dates. IT IS WRONG TO DO SO AND YOU ARE WRONG TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

It will not happen and it will make you look like a fool, a liar is what the God haters will call you and you will in fact HARM THE CAUSE FOR CHRIST.

How can you be so brain washed????????



I am sorry you remain in darkness my friend.

It is not too late to cry out for mercy.


My o my. So when you are faced with the TRUTH of God's Word which can not be disputed by yourself, you fall to the same pit as do the atheists in that you now question my relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

WHY??????

BECAUSE I DISGREED WITH YOUR NONE BIBLICAL PRACTICE OF SETTING A DATE FOR THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST.
 Quoting: Major 1101606



God says if 'he" comes as a theif you remain in darkness.

This is what God says,not I.
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God is the bridegroom and is coming for his bride, have you ever known any bride not to know when their wedding date is! All brides know when they are getting married so they can prepare.


We welcome your questions:

TimeandJudgment_May212011@yahoogroups.com


"...blow the trumpet...warn the people"
Judgment Day ezekiel 33:3

May 21, 2011

THE BIBLE GUARANTEES IT





We can only hope that false teacher Harold Camping will live long enough to see his deception fail. He'll probably kick off on May 20th, and escape ridicule.



Words of emcourgement coming from a true believer.

Has nothing to do with him bro.

The bible declares that this will happen,you should be thankful that God gives this warning. There is still time to seek out God that he may have mercy,in 197 days it will be too late.


I am sure you mean well, but I must say to you that if you are not A Jehovah Witness (Which I doubt you would admitt anyway) you certainly are in line with their teachings just as is Mr. Camping.

In these new fellowships which believe in Mr, Campings false teaching of the Bible, there is to be no discipline, no baptism, no communion, and no authority apart from Family Radio's interpretation of the Bible.

Mr. Camping rejects 1 Corinthians 11:26 that says we are to proclaim the Lord's death, till He comes.

He rejects the clear teaching that the gates of Hades will not prevail against His church (Matthew 16:18).

With even greater certainty than he had in 1994, Mr. Camping now says abandon the elders who provide watch over your soul (Hebrews 13:17), who are to shepherd the flock (1 Peter 5:1-3), and feed them (Acts 20:17-28).

Do we no longer need shepherds other than Mr. Camping? Do we no longer need men to watch for our souls? Do we no longer need to be reconciled to brothers (Matthew 18)? If we do, what church is to judge it? Is Mr. Camping our pope who will judge for us?

Family Radio may not be the Watchtower Tract and Bible Society, but it is built on the same wrong-headed interpretations of Scripture, the same date-setting, the same recalculations, the same accusations of complete apostasy, and the same claim to be the last true channel of God's Word.

We do live in a day of great apostasy. Churches do more often than not resemble circuses and stage shows, but the church has always had these troubles. The church has also had predators who point out these problems to get you to follow them. The Jehovah's Witnesses point out the pagan origins of Christmas and Easter celebrations, but only to lead you into some greater error and that is exactly what I see you doing as well. Now is the time for faithfulness, not just another form of apostasy.

Like the Jehovah's Witnesses, Mr. Camping accuses anyone who differs with him of not really believing the Bible and accuses them of being idolatrous of their church. The true idol here is Mr. Camping. Will Christians read the Bible for themselves and search the Scriptures to know if these things are true, or will they blindly follow Mr. Camping into yet another false prophecy? And what will be the result for them if they do?



JW do not believe Jesus is God,The Bible declares they are one,I do not attend 'any'corporate church,they have fell away just as national Iseral did in the OT.

We can focus or thoughts and form our opinions on a mere man,however we must have our eyes open to the truth by God alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


The JW's did not fall away my friend, THEY WERE NEVER EVER CHRISTIAN TO BEGIN WITH.

You said.......................
however we must have our eyes open to the truth by God alone.


am saying that you are NOT DOING THAT AT ALL.
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Why have there been so many people before you providing 'guaranteed' Judgement dates and all of them have been wrong. What makes MAY 21 2011 any more credible than those past predictions?



Because the Bible is the word of God and the Bible has revel this information in our day,it has always been there!

There is zero doubt that this will happen! no one can be convince unless God has open your spiritual eyes,i can't make anyone believe.

If you have a question please go to the above mention forum and ask,you will find a lot of people who have a vast range of knowledge of this.

It is foolish not to at least seek out the matter.





I have fully investigated this, and Harold Camping is a madman. I listen to him regularly, for the entertainment value, because I will say... He IS funny!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to give me all his money and property on May 20th.


You are absolutely correct!

I have made it a point in my life these days I have to find out about false teachers as well.

—Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." —Matthew 7:15

Harold Camping is a false prophet! The following are just a few of his false doctrines that have been taught:

1. Harold Camping proclaimed the Lord's return would be in 1994!

2. Harold Camping now proclaims the Lord's return will be in October, 20, 2011!

3. Harold Camping (Family Radio) has aired Mormon advertisements!

4. Harold Camping taught that NO ONE was saved between 1988 through 1994!

5. Harold Camping teaches that the church age ended in 1994!

6. Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

7. Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

Clearly, Harold Camping is NOT a true Christian, and has fabricated his own cult.



your stated "facts" that are either totally false or misrepersented,you have no Idea what you are talking about bro.

Focus on God and his word,if you are a true believer you will know truth.


Well my friend, my stated "facts" come stright from Mr. Camings on mouth so I guess you need to call them Mr. Campings ideas, not mine. I simply posted what he said and they are 100% true.

AS for focusing on God, my dear friend, that is what YOU NEED TO DO instead of listening to a false teacher and then trying to parrot what he tells you.

READ THE BIBLE bro, and especially the part where Jesus says we are not to set dates. IT IS WRONG TO DO SO AND YOU ARE WRONG TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

It will not happen and it will make you look like a fool, a liar is what the God haters will call you and you will in fact HARM THE CAUSE FOR CHRIST.

How can you be so brain washed????????



I am sorry you remain in darkness my friend.

It is not too late to cry out for mercy.


My o my. So when you are faced with the TRUTH of God's Word which can not be disputed by yourself, you fall to the same pit as do the atheists in that you now question my relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

WHY??????

BECAUSE I DISGREED WITH YOUR NONE BIBLICAL PRACTICE OF SETTING A DATE FOR THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST.



God says if 'he" comes as a theif you remain in darkness.

This is what God says,not I.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


YOU SAID IT.

You are saying/said that because I am not in agreement with your false prophecy, I AM IN DARKNESS.

You see, to "remain" as you said in darkness, one must first be in darkness.

Then when called on it, you try to blame God.

Isnt that what Eve did when she fell under the serpants deception?

It is clear that you have a lot to learn.

I believe that you have just eliminated yourself from being the appearance of being a Christian.
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God is the bridegroom and is coming for his bride, have you ever known any bride not to know when their wedding date is! All brides know when they are getting married so they can prepare.


We welcome your questions:

TimeandJudgment_May212011@yahoogroups.com


"...blow the trumpet...warn the people"
Judgment Day ezekiel 33:3

May 21, 2011

THE BIBLE GUARANTEES IT





We can only hope that false teacher Harold Camping will live long enough to see his deception fail. He'll probably kick off on May 20th, and escape ridicule.



Words of emcourgement coming from a true believer.

Has nothing to do with him bro.

The bible declares that this will happen,you should be thankful that God gives this warning. There is still time to seek out God that he may have mercy,in 197 days it will be too late.


I am sure you mean well, but I must say to you that if you are not A Jehovah Witness (Which I doubt you would admitt anyway) you certainly are in line with their teachings just as is Mr. Camping.

In these new fellowships which believe in Mr, Campings false teaching of the Bible, there is to be no discipline, no baptism, no communion, and no authority apart from Family Radio's interpretation of the Bible.

Mr. Camping rejects 1 Corinthians 11:26 that says we are to proclaim the Lord's death, till He comes.

He rejects the clear teaching that the gates of Hades will not prevail against His church (Matthew 16:18).

With even greater certainty than he had in 1994, Mr. Camping now says abandon the elders who provide watch over your soul (Hebrews 13:17), who are to shepherd the flock (1 Peter 5:1-3), and feed them (Acts 20:17-28).

Do we no longer need shepherds other than Mr. Camping? Do we no longer need men to watch for our souls? Do we no longer need to be reconciled to brothers (Matthew 18)? If we do, what church is to judge it? Is Mr. Camping our pope who will judge for us?

Family Radio may not be the Watchtower Tract and Bible Society, but it is built on the same wrong-headed interpretations of Scripture, the same date-setting, the same recalculations, the same accusations of complete apostasy, and the same claim to be the last true channel of God's Word.

We do live in a day of great apostasy. Churches do more often than not resemble circuses and stage shows, but the church has always had these troubles. The church has also had predators who point out these problems to get you to follow them. The Jehovah's Witnesses point out the pagan origins of Christmas and Easter celebrations, but only to lead you into some greater error and that is exactly what I see you doing as well. Now is the time for faithfulness, not just another form of apostasy.

Like the Jehovah's Witnesses, Mr. Camping accuses anyone who differs with him of not really believing the Bible and accuses them of being idolatrous of their church. The true idol here is Mr. Camping. Will Christians read the Bible for themselves and search the Scriptures to know if these things are true, or will they blindly follow Mr. Camping into yet another false prophecy? And what will be the result for them if they do?



JW do not believe Jesus is God,The Bible declares they are one,I do not attend 'any'corporate church,they have fell away just as national Iseral did in the OT.

We can focus or thoughts and form our opinions on a mere man,however we must have our eyes open to the truth by God alone.


The JW's did not fall away my friend, THEY WERE NEVER EVER CHRISTIAN TO BEGIN WITH.

You said.......................
however we must have our eyes open to the truth by God alone.


am saying that you are NOT DOING THAT AT ALL.
 Quoting: Major 1101606


JW have their own regilion just as the baptist,penocostel,catholic,meth,presy,etc. They "all' have forsaken the truth of the bible and have gone their own way however, all have had some elemets of truth at times throughout their history. The bible declares they are of no use in God's salvation plan today.

We can 'ONLY" trust the word of GOD,none of us can or will understand unless we have became saved first. We are all spiritually dead.
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Why have there been so many people before you providing 'guaranteed' Judgement dates and all of them have been wrong. What makes MAY 21 2011 any more credible than those past predictions?



Because the Bible is the word of God and the Bible has revel this information in our day,it has always been there!

There is zero doubt that this will happen! no one can be convince unless God has open your spiritual eyes,i can't make anyone believe.

If you have a question please go to the above mention forum and ask,you will find a lot of people who have a vast range of knowledge of this.

It is foolish not to at least seek out the matter.





I have fully investigated this, and Harold Camping is a madman. I listen to him regularly, for the entertainment value, because I will say... He IS funny!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to give me all his money and property on May 20th.


You are absolutely correct!

I have made it a point in my life these days I have to find out about false teachers as well.

—Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." —Matthew 7:15

Harold Camping is a false prophet! The following are just a few of his false doctrines that have been taught:

1. Harold Camping proclaimed the Lord's return would be in 1994!

2. Harold Camping now proclaims the Lord's return will be in October, 20, 2011!

3. Harold Camping (Family Radio) has aired Mormon advertisements!

4. Harold Camping taught that NO ONE was saved between 1988 through 1994!

5. Harold Camping teaches that the church age ended in 1994!

6. Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

7. Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

Clearly, Harold Camping is NOT a true Christian, and has fabricated his own cult.



your stated "facts" that are either totally false or misrepersented,you have no Idea what you are talking about bro.

Focus on God and his word,if you are a true believer you will know truth.


Well my friend, my stated "facts" come stright from Mr. Camings on mouth so I guess you need to call them Mr. Campings ideas, not mine. I simply posted what he said and they are 100% true.

AS for focusing on God, my dear friend, that is what YOU NEED TO DO instead of listening to a false teacher and then trying to parrot what he tells you.

READ THE BIBLE bro, and especially the part where Jesus says we are not to set dates. IT IS WRONG TO DO SO AND YOU ARE WRONG TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

It will not happen and it will make you look like a fool, a liar is what the God haters will call you and you will in fact HARM THE CAUSE FOR CHRIST.

How can you be so brain washed????????



I am sorry you remain in darkness my friend.

It is not too late to cry out for mercy.


My o my. So when you are faced with the TRUTH of God's Word which can not be disputed by yourself, you fall to the same pit as do the atheists in that you now question my relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

WHY??????

BECAUSE I DISGREED WITH YOUR NONE BIBLICAL PRACTICE OF SETTING A DATE FOR THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST.



God says if 'he" comes as a theif you remain in darkness.

This is what God says,not I.


YOU SAID IT.

You are saying/said that because I am not in agreement with your false prophecy, I AM IN DARKNESS.

You see, to "remain" as you said in darkness, one must first be in darkness.

Then when called on it, you try to blame God.

Isnt that what Eve did when she fell under the serpants deception?

It is clear that you have a lot to learn.

I believe that you have just eliminated yourself from being the appearance of being a Christian.
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your intitled sir.

thank you for your responces.
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!


Personally I have no problem with that but it is not what the Scriptures tell us to do now is it?

Hebrews 10:25
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together".



The Bible interpets itself;

1 Thess:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our GATHERING TOGETHER unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

The word assembling in Heb.10;25 is the same word "gathering together". Both are in context of the coming of our Lors.

we are to Gather together of "ourselves" unto Christ,not in a group as "we" (the true believers)see (know)the day (judgment day) approching.

We are to rely totally on him,as saved individual's,drawing closer to him,we stand alone.


I think I am beginning to see the problem here. You really do not study the Bible do you my young friend. You are hearing a false teacher without the help of the Holy Spirit to help you.

First of all you quoted the wrong Scripture.

What you posted in found in 2 Thessalonians NOT 1 Thess.

Verse 1...........
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him".

That is the Rapture.

You see, the reason for Paul writing those words was to TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS COMING THE SECOND TIME.

Then just as you are today, were people trying to deceive the saints. The rumors were that He had already come and they missed Him. They had stopped planting crops and were just sitting and waiting.

Verse 3...
"Let no man deceive you by any means, for THAT DAY shall not come except there come a falling away first, and then that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition."

For May 21, 2011 to be the day of Jesus returen, the Rapture would have to have taken place 6 and 1/2 years ago and the antichrist would be in controle of the WORLD.

Do you see how wrong your thesis is???????

As for the The phrase “Gathering together” is episunagoges, “a gathering together, an assembly.” This is clearly a reference to the event described in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Episunagoges is used only here and in Hebrews 10:25 of the congregation of believers.

We are in agreement BUT....in Thessalonians the focus/context is The Rapture in which Jesus GATHERS His church to Himself and in Hebrews the context/focus is on
Assembling together, meeting together, or gathering together. Notice that the word is "assembling" and not "the assembly". Hebrews 10:25 teaches us that we are not to forsake "the assembly", which means Sunday Church services in today's language.



I stand corrected 2 Thess ch:2

Again,

you are not reading the whole Bible,you are trusting what your church has said,I too for over 40 years listen to them instead of the word of God.

The Bible is a spiritual book,you will only understand if you are one of the elect.

The word assembling is only used 2 times in the Bible (not talking about asemble)It means "gathering together" in the org. greek,used 1 time in the hebrew,still means gather.

It is the same word and in the same context:

1 John:4

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The Bible is clear that satan is the anichrist,he has always been here,not to come some man in the future.The Bible does not support that view.

I can't argue or convince anyone into truth,it is up to God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454



This is really getting a little silly now.

Now you are assuming I am a church memeber some where. So first it was God's fault and now it is a churches fault.

As I posted, I agreed with you upon the two times the word GATHERING was used.

Now you are saying that the anit-christ is Satan.

Where is that in the Scriptures???????????? Wait, let me help you.

2 Thess. 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Listen, do some more study and maybe we will talk again but for now, I do not see any reason to continue in this back and forth tit for tat.
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For everyone:

My intentions for this post was to "sound the alarm" that is commanded by God in EZ:3,18,33,etc.that when you see coming (know)impending judgment you are to warn the people!

Mine and many others only desire is to be obeident to the word of God.I believe with every fiber of my being by "only" God's grace am I to understand anything from his word.

I do know there has to be an absolute truth or if there isin't,then there is no God.So, knowing that there is no doubt that there is "GOD" there must be absolute truth.It is in the word of God written for all of mankind.The problem is only a small amount of people will ever come to truth,either we are elect of God or not (no one knows who they are).

We know God has "always" warn his people of coming judgment,we see this with Noah (gave exact date of the flood),Jonah was commanded to warn Ninveth to repent or in 40 days (exact date of thier calander)they will be overthrown,about 120,000 humble themselves before God and we saved.lot was warn to leave "now".So since God shows in his word that he does indeed warn his people why would he not warn his people of his second coming?That would be out of character.

The Bible is very difficult to understand,it defines itself on how to be read;Compare scripture to scripture (the whole bible),compare spiritual things to spiritual things,the Bible is a spiritual book,he who worships God must worship him in spirit and in truth (we can not understand any of it outside of God opening up our spiritual eyes).The Bible says we are spiritually dead and that none are rightious,none seek after God,all have gone astray.

Saying..not one of us can do anything to contribute to our salvation,we can't accept Christ,we can't believe,repent,faith,etc. apart from God saving us first.
This is not good news to any of us,that means we are at the total mercy of God whether we become saved or not,there is no control whatsoever on our part.

With that said,I came here fully knowing that I will be subjecting myself to all kinds of scoffing,name calling,slandering,etc.Doesn't matter,i'm not the one who they are offending.

I have provided several links to investigate the information to see if this is coming from the "Bible Alone" or not. here is a forum link it you would like to ask any questions to people who are more verse than I .

TimeandJudgment_May212011@yahoogroups.com

It seems to me a true child of God would want to make sure that what has or is being taught in the past or present is true or not,this is the nature of a true believer to want to know truth even when it offends.
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!


Personally I have no problem with that but it is not what the Scriptures tell us to do now is it?

Hebrews 10:25
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together".



The Bible interpets itself;

1 Thess:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our GATHERING TOGETHER unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

The word assembling in Heb.10;25 is the same word "gathering together". Both are in context of the coming of our Lors.

we are to Gather together of "ourselves" unto Christ,not in a group as "we" (the true believers)see (know)the day (judgment day) approching.

We are to rely totally on him,as saved individual's,drawing closer to him,we stand alone.


I think I am beginning to see the problem here. You really do not study the Bible do you my young friend. You are hearing a false teacher without the help of the Holy Spirit to help you.

First of all you quoted the wrong Scripture.

What you posted in found in 2 Thessalonians NOT 1 Thess.

Verse 1...........
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him".

That is the Rapture.

You see, the reason for Paul writing those words was to TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS COMING THE SECOND TIME.

Then just as you are today, were people trying to deceive the saints. The rumors were that He had already come and they missed Him. They had stopped planting crops and were just sitting and waiting.

Verse 3...
"Let no man deceive you by any means, for THAT DAY shall not come except there come a falling away first, and then that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition."

For May 21, 2011 to be the day of Jesus returen, the Rapture would have to have taken place 6 and 1/2 years ago and the antichrist would be in controle of the WORLD.

Do you see how wrong your thesis is???????

As for the The phrase “Gathering together” is episunagoges, “a gathering together, an assembly.” This is clearly a reference to the event described in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Episunagoges is used only here and in Hebrews 10:25 of the congregation of believers.

We are in agreement BUT....in Thessalonians the focus/context is The Rapture in which Jesus GATHERS His church to Himself and in Hebrews the context/focus is on
Assembling together, meeting together, or gathering together. Notice that the word is "assembling" and not "the assembly". Hebrews 10:25 teaches us that we are not to forsake "the assembly", which means Sunday Church services in today's language.



I stand corrected 2 Thess ch:2

Again,

you are not reading the whole Bible,you are trusting what your church has said,I too for over 40 years listen to them instead of the word of God.

The Bible is a spiritual book,you will only understand if you are one of the elect.

The word assembling is only used 2 times in the Bible (not talking about asemble)It means "gathering together" in the org. greek,used 1 time in the hebrew,still means gather.

It is the same word and in the same context:

1 John:4

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The Bible is clear that satan is the anichrist,he has always been here,not to come some man in the future.The Bible does not support that view.

I can't argue or convince anyone into truth,it is up to God.



This is really getting a little silly now.

Now you are assuming I am a church memeber some where. So first it was God's fault and now it is a churches fault.

As I posted, I agreed with you upon the two times the word GATHERING was used.

Now you are saying that the anit-christ is Satan.

Where is that in the Scriptures???????????? Wait, let me help you.

2 Thess. 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Listen, do some more study and maybe we will talk again but for now, I do not see any reason to continue in this back and forth tit for tat.
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I work as an engineer for one of the Family Radio stations and see this from the inside out. No question, Harold Camping is off the deep end. He is what is known as a false prophet.
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Judgment day has come and went many times over.


Impossible,you're still here.

199 days left for nearly 7 billion people.
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who said anyone was going to die on judgment day ??
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I don't belong to any of "Man's" churches. Practice a personal relationship with the Lord and make the bible your guide and you can't go wrong!!!


Personally I have no problem with that but it is not what the Scriptures tell us to do now is it?

Hebrews 10:25
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together".
 Quoting: Major 1101606
I never said that fellowship wasn't a good thing.
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I work as an engineer for one of the Family Radio stations and see this from the inside out. No question, Harold Camping is off the deep end. He is what is known as a false prophet.
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Hello...may we take the next call please....Mr. Camping you are full of baloney....as Camping says excuse me and cuts then off....and then he says...thank you for calling and sharing. Sometimes you can hear the caller in the background almosy screaming.

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