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************ What the ELITE are HIDING from you is HUGE - UNBELIEVABLY HUGE ***********

 
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This is a good article written some time ago but worth the read

The Gods must be laughing - a dig at Al Gore's film.

[link to www.canada.com]

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This is interesting ...


The combined effect of orbital cycles cause long term changes in the amount of sunlight hitting the earth at different seasons, particularly at high latitudes. For example, around 18,000 years ago, there was an increase in the amount of sunlight hitting the Southern Hemisphere during the southern spring. This lead to retreating Antarctic sea ice and melting glaciers in the Southern Hemisphere.(Shemesh 2002). The ice loss had a positive feedback effect with less ice reflecting sunlight back into space (decreased albedo). This enhanced the warming.

As the Southern Ocean warms, the solubility of CO2 in water falls (Martin 2005). This causes the oceans to give up more CO2, emitting it into the atmosphere. The exact mechanism of how the deep ocean gives up its CO2 is not fully understood but believed to be related to vertical ocean mixing (Toggweiler 1999). The process takes around 800 to 1000 years, so CO2 levels are observed to rise around 1000 years after the initial warming (Monnin 2001, Mudelsee 2001).

[link to www.skepticalscience.com]


At present the opposite is happening ... having the opposite effect.


The Antarctic has had a steady temperature decrease since records began and has reached it's furthermost extent since records began.

[link to newsbusters.org]

The only piece of the Antarctic to show melting and ice breaking off has a huge active volcano underneath it.

[link to www.siu.edu]
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CO 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING.



Focusing on the transition from glacial to interglacial conditions during the period between 22,000 and 9,000 years ago, Monnin et al. (2001) found that the start of the CO2 increase lagged the start of the temperature increase by 800 years. An additional analysis of this most recent glacial/interglacial transition by Yokoyama et al. (2000), which has also been discussed by Clark and Mix (2000), revealed that a rapid rise in sea level, caused by the melting of land-based ice that began approximately 19,000 years ago, preceded the post-glacial rise in atmospheric CO2 concentration by about 3,000 years. Then, when the CO2 finally began to rise, it had to race to make up the difference; but it still took it a couple more thousand years to catch up with the sea level rise.

Lastly, Petit et al. (1999) have shown that during all of the glacial inceptions of the past half million years, temperature always dropped before the air's CO2 concentration declined; and their data indicate, in their own words, that "the CO2 decrease lags the temperature decrease by several thousand years." Clearly, therefore, changes in the air's CO2 content cannot be responsible for these major climate changes, for it would be a strange cause indeed that followed its effect!

[link to www.co2science.org]
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Only one problem with the Volcano theory.

Like with venus the Sulphur Dioxide they give off "chokes" the Stratosphere, so although for a brief time things may cool with the aid of Sudden Stratospheric warming. The rebound effect of all that SO2 and CO2 emissions would lead to a near-runaway Greenhouse effect, raising temperatures back up again.

Its why Limestone rocks have CO2 stored in them, from the result of the Deccan Traps and Siberian Lava Flows which pumped out vast amounts of emissions. Its only thanks to Coral Formations in the Mid-Atlantic (where West Africa now is), that we are still able to breathe. As all that SO2/CO2 was stored up in Coral and Plants, then fossilised.
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Will you guys be terribly upset if I say again, "THE EARTH IS GROWING"?

:)

You may well be right.



What he said ^^^^


[link to www.expanding-earth.org]
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You guys will love this video it shows how it happened.

[link to www.flixxy.com]

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Why can't we ascend into an ice age?
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Only one problem with the Volcano theory.

Like with venus the Sulphur Dioxide they give off "chokes" the Stratosphere, so although for a brief time things may cool with the aid of Sudden Stratospheric warming. The rebound effect of all that SO2 and CO2 emissions would lead to a near-runaway Greenhouse effect, raising temperatures back up again.

Its why Limestone rocks have CO2 stored in them, from the result of the Deccan Traps and Siberian Lava Flows which pumped out vast amounts of emissions. Its only thanks to Coral Formations in the Mid-Atlantic (where West Africa now is), that we are still able to breathe. As all that SO2/CO2 was stored up in Coral and Plants, then fossilised.
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The ice records do not support that, they show ice ages are accompanied by intense volcanic activity but not by a high rate of CO 2.

When the Ice Age was ongoing, volcanism was commonplace in many parts of the world (where there are “extinct” or active volcanos, such as Santorini and Etna in the Mediterranean), and this is proven by the many layers of ash discovered within bore holes into the polar icepacks, some of which, after having been compressed by tons of overlying snow and ice for many centuries, are a centimeter thick, so these vast layers of ash, when they accumulated, were several feet thick, undoubtedly quite the catastrophic scene, with volcanos popping and intense snowfall in the extreme latitudes, and much more rainfall in the middle latitudes, having made Egypt and the Middle East regions of lush pastures and babbling brooks, with lakes and stands of forests, when the great ancient civilizations were at their peaks.

As the Ice Age snowfall progressed, from much more global cloudcover (year ’round) at that time, the weight of the increasing layers of snow and ice on continents pushed down on those continental crusts, causing earthquakes and volcanism, hence the huge volumes of volcanic ash within the Ice Age icepacks which remain in Greenland, the Arctic, and the Antarctic.

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TPTB do tell us what is going to happen.
They do it with movies, like Day After Tomorrow.
Almost all TV shows and even the commercials are telling you what is happening.

Remember an outrageous Truth is usually mistaken for a lie.
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I wonder if this is why George W. Bush bought that huge chunk of land 'down south' in Paraguay... and lives there most of the time now.

Jesse Ventura now spends most of his time in Mexico... South.
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One question: Why all the supposed land buying and building and government moving to Denver?
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One question: Why all the supposed land buying and building and government moving to Denver?
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Don't know ... it is just below the glacial level but only just, maybe it is a good zone for rounding people up and sending them off?
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Spectacular Explosive Eruptions at Anak Krakatau (Krakatoa) Volcano, Indonesia 1st Nov. 2010

Probably only getting warmed up?

[link to www.youtube.com]
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sorry -

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What, all of the money they stole from us?

Yeah theyre hiding it...and its HUGE!
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The Anak Krakatau (Krakatoa) Volcano, video above is a bit long but towards the end they have the night fireworks, it pretty but I only really put it up to show it is currently active not really a great show.
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The ice records do not support that, they show ice ages are accompanied by intense volcanic activity but not by a high rate of CO 2.

Got any data to show that? the only crustal displacement Ice is capable of doing is causing post-glacial rebound Earthquakes. In terms of intercontinental shift, I dont think Magma Migration through Convective cycling is being capable of change from a little "snow on top."

These scientists do realise the Earths crust is barely 25 miles thick, compared to the mantle (the convective driving force) which is 1800 miles thick in diamater.
Compare that to just a few hundred meters of ice at the surface. There is no comparison.
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The ice records do not support that, they show ice ages are accompanied by intense volcanic activity but not by a high rate of CO 2.

Got any data to show that?
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[link to www.skepticalscience.com]

I have put up tons of data - look above a few posts and you find the info about CO 2 and how it doesn't cause any major climate changes.

I put up info in the post you just replied from as well.
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I was not kidding when I said this: "They have put nanowires in us which can be remotely accessed. I know because they test the stuff on me. They can cause your body to be "shocked" -- like tazed through these wires. They will be able to remotely taze massive areas of people at one time. This is for riots and crowd control. They have also been able to make my whole body cramp or just my legs, so that I can not function physically."

I must have talked to over a thousand victims in the last 8 years or so who have experienced the same temporary crippling from "non-lethal" weapons.

We are not sure if it comes from sats, drones, or hang-held devices, but we think they have the capability to direct it at you from many sources -- including piggy-backing in on your house wiring.

This is important info to know if this country turns completely fascist. Shielding must be invented against stuff like this.
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shocked
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If you're going to try to pass yourself off as someone who has intelligence and knowledge the rest of us don't have, at least learn the English language.

So, the world is going to "descent" into an ice age?
Or is that descend?
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Dam spelling nazi, stfu
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Ok perhaps, but it generally takes a few centuries if not a few thousand years for an ice age to actually grow big enough to really affect us heh
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Actually, no. That's what we got told at school. There is new evidence out now. They have found now that it can happen within a year or two. And possible "instantly".

Get the most awesome book "Not by Fire, but by Ice". Read these rave reviews:

[link to www.iceagenow.com]
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One question: Why all the supposed land buying and building and government moving to Denver?
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Because it is not near either coastline and is at 5200'ft above sea level and has a wall of mountains to the west and several hundred miles of flat plains to the east.
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[link to news.yahoo.com]

Thread: Urgently important earth change: Atlantic reversed flow direction at last ice age, profound climate changes
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Whether the earth is going into an ice age, will face another great flood, shakes apart, an extinction level event or even if its hollow....I think the big thing to keep in mind is that some people may have survived and to learn how and why!

There were basically at least 2 species of Beings on this planet Rh-/- and Rh+/+ and they are built differently. After co-existing and procreating together, I believe there are now four: Rh-/- and Rh+/+ as before, but now there are 1/2 breeds, some stronger traited to one side or the other, these being Rh+/- and Rh-/+. So we would now hsve 4 species of human beings.

Medical Science only differenciates the Rh-/- and then groups the others (Rh+/+, Rh+/- and Rh-/+) into one Rh+ group lable.

I think this is wrong and doing us ALL a dis-service!

Science cannot explain the origin of the Rh-Negative People. But if we play 20 questions to find out "Who you are & Where do you live" the inner earth or TSHTF Cave dwellers may be an explaination for the Rh- Factor. Food for thought!!!!

RH-Neg Differences:

1. We have a stronger immune system.

Ex - This could occur from us being in close proximity to each other in a small area where infections and viruses are passed back and forth eventually building a natural immunity, which eventually reshaped our total immune system response.

2. Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker.

Ex - We are prone to autoimmune conditions and to a degree seem to be almost allergic to the environment, some with food others malabsorbtion, vit deficiency etc. Also the immune system may be less actively fighting disease in a more open environment and therefore it turns on the body.

3. We tend to be fair skinned and light eyed, as well as having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiency

Ex - This could be because of a long time dwelling away from the exposure to the sun.

4.) We process CO2 more efficiently.

Ex. - Lock 10 people in an air tight room and with every exhale the air becomes more CO2 and less Oxygen, this could result form living in an underground area with limited exposure to new high oxygen air to enter. We would've had to learn to breath the new environmental air, just as we all learned to survive in amniotic fluid in the womb, the body adjusts. We also tend to be shallow breathers.

5.) We tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances.

Ex - This could either result from food environment or living closer to the magnetic core of the earth or the inner sun

Here is why it could be important. If there is an inner earth it would be a different environment and protected from the effects that we could feel from outside space influences like asteroid, comets, meteors and the sun...

If you are familiar with the Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Codes AND have ever sliced open an orange or an apple, they are built by this natural equation and they have an exterior, interior, vein-like cavities and a core. Why would the creator build everything natural on the planet this way and not the planet itself...

If you take your foot and put it on your forearm, your toes should reach the base of your wrist and your heal should cradle at the inner creek of your elbow. If you wrap a sock around your FIST heal to toe, it will fit your foot.

This measurements and creation tactics seem to be done vary on purpose and who knows where that stops. If this thread was mythbusters - I would say plausible!

It is a different approach to an age old question...where do Rh-Negative Fit into the whole story, as Darwin leaves us out.

Rather than ask where the Rh-Negative people came from, we are asking where would the Rh-Negative Body live naturally to have these features.

If I say, I have 4 legs, long hair, drool, sleep on a floor, poop outside and get parvo; you are likely to conclude that I am a dog.

So if an Rh-Negative Person processes CO2 more efficiently, has a lower body temperature, a sensitivity to light while prone to light eyes and skin, a very strong immune system, increase autoimmune issues, breathes more shallowly, is more nocturnal in nature, eats a different diet to stay in optimal health, has protein variation on the blood cells for RH+, etc. Where would this Physical body live most prosperously and/or what kind of environment would cause these difference to mutate and manifest in a human body.

You can read more Origin theories, the Co2 transfer, medical research, patents and shared traits at [link to www.RhNegativeRegistry.com]
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One question: Why all the supposed land buying and building and government moving to Denver?
Because it is not near either coastline and is at 5200'ft above sea level and has a wall of mountains to the west and several hundred miles of flat plains to the east.
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COMPARE THE POST USA POST 2012 MAP and the NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY MAPS and YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER.....
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The ice records do not support that, they show ice ages are accompanied by intense volcanic activity but not by a high rate of CO 2.

Got any data to show that?



[link to www.skepticalscience.com]

I have put up tons of data - look above a few posts and you find the info about CO 2 and how it doesn't cause any major climate changes.

I put up info in the post you just replied from as well.
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Rh Negatives process Co2 more efficiently....you know us blue bloods... [link to rhnegativeregistry.com]
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One question: Why all the supposed land buying and building and government moving to Denver?
Because it is not near either coastline and is at 5200'ft above sea level and has a wall of mountains to the west and several hundred miles of flat plains to the east.



COMPARE THE POST USA POST 2012 MAP and the NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY MAPS and YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER.....
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One question: Why all the supposed land buying and building and government moving to Denver?
Because it is not near either coastline and is at 5200'ft above sea level and has a wall of mountains to the west and several hundred miles of flat plains to the east.



COMPARE THE POST USA POST 2012 MAP and the NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY MAPS and YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER.....


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So I guess you suggest leaving NYC?????
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Where are the post 2012 maps?
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Where are the post 2012 maps?
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Sorry I cannot embed mine - Here is a link

2012 FUTURE MAP
[link to www.larrywinfield.com]

NAFTA SUPER HWY MAP
[link to www.sweetliberty.org]

(At least they moved the KEY off the West Coast...I shit you not....on other pics of the map it has the KEY right over the west coast....
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This is map of the super highway and shows train tracks from Kansas City to Denver.

[link to www.nogw.com]