UE benefits buh bye!: " Long-term UK jobless 'could face compulsory manual labour'"

Go back and do your research on the brown shirts; dunce ! Fascists are experts at turning the working class people against each other;you are proof of that !
It is not the socialists who believe that the right to live must be earnend;that belief is cherished by your freinds, the fascists !

Nothing to stop them working their way up the ladder. I went from dole to flipping burgers at mcds. Then management for them. Took that experience and now have my own food buisness. Most satisfying after flopping at school.

Last Edited by Sword of mercy on 11/07/2010 08:05 AM

Sad isn't it? They may have to work to make that trip to Mecca.

You ever hear of the National Socialist Workers Party AKA Nazis, you dumb fuck. Read a fucking book, will you?

Here are your heroes.

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Exactly. I've been out of work for ages now - I'm applying to dozens of jobs per day, and have had a few interviews but got nowhere.

What pisses me off most is this: I was running a small property maintenance business. So WTF - the local authorities are going to get slave labour to do lots of maintence tasks (gardening, painting etc), so they won't have to pay. This is going to mean that the local authorities won't have to employ so many contractors to do those jobs - thus forcing MORE small businesses to go bust, and putting MORE PEOPLE ON THE DOLE!!!

They really haven't thought this through have they. Its great in principle, but in practice will just make things even tougher for those small businesses trying to cling on.

It is ALL another Masonic SCAM for the Rothschilds Lackeys, called the Conservative 'Etonian' Party. I worked for a company that went bankrupt owing me 320 HR at £5.83 per hour and another company that lost the site contracts, owing me 41.5 HR at £6.25 per hour. Jobcentre Plus (JCP) kept parroting on about going to f**king ACAS to sort it ALL out. Like f**k, in a Small Claims Court after 5-6 years and legal costs of 50K-60K. What a load of crap. NOW the HM Government and the DWP wants long-term unemployed to get off their assholes and GET MARCHING, get on their bikes and look for Phantom Jobs 900 miles away.

ALL the while, destroying the White British Middle Class and the White British People ALL 'hoping' for a better day somewhere, somehow as if Superman and the DC Heroes will arrive to improve Britain. It is ALL totally f**ked up and evil. Jobcentre Plus (JCP) and the DWP under Iain Duncan Smith will help to bankrupt Britain, undermine the Middle Class and destroy the National Minimum Wage (NMW) of £5.93 per hour. Everywhere I look retail outlets are closing down, shedding employees, limiting overtime, downsizing and factories are CLOSING DOWN. Really it means there is ZERO job creation and the UK Economy is faultering and will eventually collapse with the death of the US Dollar.

Nope, the people that work support the idea, like me.

Current proposals are just a symptom of the underlying problems.

Obama: "We're out of Money."
[link to www.c-span.org] [Warning: PDF]

In a sobering holiday interview with C-SPAN, President Obama boldly told Americans: "We are out of money."

C-SPAN host Steve Scully broke from a meek Washington press corps with probing questions for the new president.

SCULLY: You know the numbers, $1.7 trillion debt, a national deficit of $11 trillion. At what point do we run out of money?

OBAMA: Well, we are out of money now. We are operating in deep deficits

CNN: "The figure Walker cites includes future payments that government entitlement programs would have to pay, including $32 trillion owed by Medicare."
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"Add together the unfunded liabilities from Medicare and Social Security, and it comes to $99.2 trillion over the infinite horizon."
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U.S. unfunded liabilities: over 110 Trillion dollars
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Bloomberg: U.S. Is Bankrupt and We Don't Even Know
Let’s get real. The U.S. is bankrupt. Neither spending more nor taxing less will help the country pay its bills.
Based on the CBO’s data, I calculate a fiscal gap of $202 trillion, which is more than 15 times the official debt. This gargantuan discrepancy between our “official” debt and our actual net indebtedness isn’t surprising. It reflects what economists call the labeling problem. Congress has been very careful over the years to label most of its liabilities “unofficial” to keep them off the books and far in the future.
[link to www.bloomberg.com]

Washington Post: Obama's debt commission warns of fiscal 'cancer' "that will destroy the country from within"
"We can't grow our way out of this," Bowles said. "We could have decades of double-digit growth and not grow our way out of this enormous debt problem. We can't tax our way out. . . . The reality is we've got to do exactly what you all do every day as governors. We've got to cut spending or increase revenues or do some combination of that."
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Your Future in 15 Seconds

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Im guessing your unemployed sitting at home while the state wipes your arse, right?

State-fascists and state-socialists operate under the same core principle:

The support of theft and the initiation of violence against innocent people by a ruling class.

Which results in what is being seen now, all over the globe.

"In my recent article on Tony Kushner, I suggested that his socialist views were somehow akin to fascism. Predictably enough, the knee-jerk reaction to this statement was the reassertion of an old historical fallacy: the notion that socialism and fascism are somehow opposed to each other, that they have been historical rivals, that there is nothing but difference between the two -- and that I must have been ignorant of this historical fact. I did not, however, make this comparison glibly. Taken in full historical context, with full consideration of philosophic principle, socialism and fascism are essentially the same."
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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Frédéric Bastiat

Report: Los Angeles spent $70 million in stimulus funds to create 7.76 jobs
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Great idea. I was unemployed for 5 months and would have happily done some work. Maybe for a voluntary organisation - can't see me and my dodgy back on a road gang!
When people are out of work for lengthy periods, they often lose the discipline and will to work. So it would help with that. Plus it would sort out all the scumbags and parasites who have no intention of working (and get in the way of those who are working but not declaring).
Bring it on.

Plus I should have added that the UK benefit system needs a radical overhaul. It's far to easy for some claimants to earn more than the likes of me who prefer to work for a living.

The work 'experience' does not get you even on the first rung you are forced to 'earn' your benefits and then back on the dole. If it was a paid job at the legally prescribed minimum wage maybe it would be fair enough. But it isn't, and it also keeps people from being paid properly for that job. It's a policy from a government bereft of ideas simply selling the idea to the electorate that to bail out their banker chums they need to blame the long-term unemployed.

How is it just £2 per hour? You have to take into account that these are just occasional work placements. In between, you don't have to work.
I think a better idea would be to make it around 10 hours a week at minimum wage.
Or - charities could contract into the scheme and the claimant would have to show evidence of doing voluntary work for 10 hours.
But yes - someone made a good point about it possibly reducing the pool of permanent jobs.

£64 benefit divided by 30 hours is close to £2 per hour. Perhaps they can find 2.5 million of those placements lol.

welfare recipients should have to work

More worrisome is that perhaps they have thought it through...and that the 'unintended consequences' aren't quite so unintended

just a thought...

Same here, anyone who tries to force me to do anything like this will regret it sooner rather than later. Employed at the moment but doubt it'll last much after xmas.

Whatever jobs there are, require certificates, exam results, previous work experience and health & safety certs.. plus whatever other paper work is needed, not to mention police checks which can take several months to come through. I was initially accepted for jobs the last few weeks, but there was always a spanner in the works!
The staff at the employment centres, simply don't speak, provide info, give answers, try to find out anything for anyone, they simply don't don't know anything, don't care, refuse to answer a single question or make eye contact. Us unemployed are treated like dirt, with contempt!!
I'm desperate for work, have many multi-skills.. which before didn't require certs or health & safety certs & what not..

What we NEED is Training & Re-Training, assessments & for unemployment staff to be more friendly, instead of nasty, condascending, ignorant, bad tempered, ill-mannered & rude attitudes. It's a very 'Computer Says No' attitude.
I've got good skills, but every single job I apply for had not 100s of appliciants.. but several 1000 applicants applying every single day! In the last year have only had half a dozen interviews, but without the bits of paper to say I'm safe to work with anything to do with security, children, other adults, use tools, health & safety, not having my driving licence long enough.. & now this being colour-blind tested & other shit thrown at us... it's fucking impossible! All these tests/hurdles cost 100 if not 1000s of pounds to aquiure. It took me over a year to be allowed to take my CSCS green labouring card, & even then was only allowed to take part 1, despite having certs to prove I could do other work.

I certainly don't agree with forced labour camps for the poor, sick & long term unemployed.. esp: while repeat offenders claiming dole/earning cash via criminal means.. inc: using violence. No-one questions these young.. mostly black/asian teengagers running around in very expensive open top, top of the range sports cars, dressed in bling, powering out their music systems & showing off.. while these criminals are on the dole. Get that lot into labour camps instead then. I'm sick of reading about criminals doing horrible things, then getting clean away with it, walking out of court free. Yet, if us non-criminal honest unenmployed cannot afford to pay our TV licence, water rates, council tax etc.. then it's straight off to jail, to lose the home, personal belongings, be bullied, raped & have attempts made on one's life. It should not be a crime to be poor & not have the correct qualifications/papers.

Yep - it's a form of cheap government labour doing jobs that the govt SHOULD be employing someone fulltime to do. The cunts reap enough taxes.

+1

I think perhaps we have a winner....

I've been pondering how on earth the PTB intended to make our western nations competitive with the $2/day wages of asian sweatshops. There has been talk in the United States of reducing the minimum wage, which is already nearly half the level of minimums elsewhere in the developed world.

Cities and municipalities are broke, and so is the government, but there are still many jobs which need doing...

Perhaps this is just as stated, a healthy move to get job seekers out in the fresh air and give them a little incentive to aim higher...

..or perhaps, as I proposed earlier, the camel's nose under the tent

From a history text re 1930s Germany:

In light of acute labor shortages and growing welfare expenditures, the Nazi leadership simply had to bring itself to exploit, methodically and compulsorily, the labor potential of about 60,000 unemployed Jews4 in Germany, if not all able-bodied Jews.5 Models had been developed since the mid-thirties by the municipal welfare offices. Since that time, Berlin, Duisburg, Leipzig, and Hamburg had as a matter of principle sent all impoverished Jews supported by public welfare to work performing unpaid mandatory labor in separate columns at special work sites or even special camps. In contrast to Aryan welfare recipients, the Jews had to work off the support funds received from the state. Local labor offices also introduced such programs for recipients of unemployment insurance.6

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They've had work for the dole in australia for a while now. If they start pulling that shit on you, claim for a soft tissue injury. Fuck em.

For the record, I'm not on the dole but I'd rather see that stolen tax money back in the community than sent overseas or wasted on more fucking bureaucrats - glorified dole bludgers if ever there was any.

It already is compulsory labor. Try and quit being a government employee and turn back your SSN etc.. you can't.

You are their slave until 65.

Here's the key to the whole article:

"...He said: "One thing we can do is pull people in to do one or two weeks' manual work - turn up at 9am and leave at 5pm, to give people a sense of work, but also when we think they're doing other work."

They have created an underground economy because of their outrageous taxation and now they want to stop that from happening.
No more working "under the table" for the Brits.

God, it's almost like your government is like the meanest mother in the neighborhood.
She catches you kids on everything you do!

good nothing better than watching the feckless scroungers taking a kick in...damn i may even help the old bill if they need it..no such thing as unemployed..i lost my job 15 years ago and i did anything i could manual work untill i built up a company again..real hard and that recession 89-96 was nasty for the building trade mainly..im older now but would still do it.

I do not support Tories on most of their endeavours but this is one thing that the UK needs. There are far to many lazy, inbred, work shy people out there that get benefits and live like the hard working middle class. Its about time someone had the Mega Brass Balls to tell the UK that enough is enough. No more free rides. I just hope that it is not a empty promise aimed at gabbing headlines.

Notice it only needs to be that they "think" you may be working.

Does that include the bankers, politicians and other parasites or just the soft targets?

i like working hard but i would also put a shovel through your windscreen and decapitate you...i work hard but i expect respect...

When I have people on my Facebook that complain that they only got 2 holidays this year, taking into account they havent had a job in years. Then the fact I havent had one for years and I work, this tells you something.

Why can they live a lifestyle I have to work for? Its nto a poor class thing anymore, its a bullshit get to fucking work you lazy cunts policy.

'I'd need a £68k job to replace my benefits' ooh wouldnt that be nice eh? Some of us do it with less.
I have more kids, I still get the same income. They have more kids, they get a bigger house, more money, etc.

There is one answer to being forced to work....get a fucking job.