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BREAKING Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

 
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If it was a plane. The pentagon would have known.



"Exhaust vapour trails or contrails can only occur above 8000 meters (26,000 feet), and only if the temperature there is below -40°C (-40°F)."

^^^ contrails details. It was too low and too warm for a contrail.

It was a rocket/missile. Watch a launch of a ICBM missile.



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If camera man Gil recons he zoomed in at one stage and saw the object spinning like a missile, wheres that footage? Why cant we see all the raw uncut footage rather than short edits. Surely Gil woulda kept filming as long as it was visible .Anyone got that footage.
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If camera man Gil recons he zoomed in at one stage and saw the object spinning like a missile, wheres that footage? Why cant we see all the raw uncut footage rather than short edits. Surely Gil woulda kept filming as long as it was visible .Anyone got that footage.
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I second this question, where is this footage?
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If camera man Gil recons he zoomed in at one stage and saw the object spinning like a missile, wheres that footage? Why cant we see all the raw uncut footage rather than short edits. Surely Gil woulda kept filming as long as it was visible .Anyone got that footage.


I second this question, where is this footage?
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It is in the same place where all the pentagon, 911 footage is kept.
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KFI AM radio in Los Angeles apparently did an interview with Gil Leyvas on Nov. 10.

I confirmed – KFI says they did an interview with Leyvas, and that it's in the podcasts on their website, but I can't find the interview.

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The mystery that won't die. check this out...

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A couple of screen caps showing the "missile" next to a known VERTICAL contrail.

[link to yfrog.com]
[link to yfrog.com]

Info on the vertical contrail and how it's effected by windspeeds at different elevations (and more pics):

[link to www.aerospaceweb.org]

To me it looks like the "missile" trail cannot be a plane at a steady elevation - where wind would have remained relatively constant. The comparison seems to show that we are indeed dealing with a vertical launch.

If not a missile, then a military jet with some sort of one engine afterburner could be a possible source and it would mean the military saying "it seems to be a plane", could be true. They just mean a military jet - while the public is looking at commercial aircraft.

And speaking of commercial aircraft - contrailscience.com has now decided it was NOT Flight 808. They are now claiming to be 90% sure that it was UPS902. At no point have they entertained that 1) they are wrong about the angle or 2) a vertical (or even horizontal)ascent of a military aircraft.
They also haven't investigated the effect of the camera lens on zoom factor against the size of the trail.
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Where is the full video that Leyvas shot? Isn't it supposed to be 10 minutes long?

Where is the podcast containing the interview of Leyvas done by KFI AM radio in Los Angeles?

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If camera man Gil recons he zoomed in at one stage and saw the object spinning like a missile, wheres that footage? Why cant we see all the raw uncut footage rather than short edits. Surely Gil woulda kept filming as long as it was visible .Anyone got that footage.


I second this question, where is this footage?


It is in the same place where all the pentagon, 911 footage is kept.
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Its been Roswelled. The Government has an entire industry devoted to Roswelling anything they don't want you to know about.
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i think this link could be relevant to this thread. follow the logic to the end. it may help make up some minds.
it changed how i veiw the missile question.
[link to contrailscience.com]
cheers all.

p.s i stole it from astro's thread...kudo's to CELLZ
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If you do a google news search for mystery missile, and then "sorted by date", you'll see the results deep-sixed by "VIP Newsroom" and "Underground Newsroom". Is google broken or complicit?

Starting on page 6 of the results, you'll start to see some real articles.

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Not to change the subject, I still love to here what it really was, but I’m starting to think that this is physiological warfare at its finest. ....We are being chem-trailed into a bloody stupor, and what I’m constantly seeing over and over through the controlled media whether its finance, war, 9/11 is the controlled media’s ability to say 2+2=5. ..

I believe people are being conditioned aggressively to except the respective expert opinions who represent governmental authority. It seems they spin so many doubts and lies that the conscience can’t determine reality from fiction anymore or people are just so exhausted or depressed they don’t want to.

THINK ABOUT THIS – Chem-trailed to a stupor by aerosols terrorism…....people are impoverished by Financial terrorism & ecological terrorism… The US is waging a war in the middle east through a anti terror campaign which is clearly a front for global hegemony . They are sacrificing their own people financially and militarily on this alter of war…

PEOPLE 2+2=4.

…….I have never witnesses such atrocities and can safely say this is worse, MUCH WORSE than Nazi Germany 1939

WHY CANT PEOPLE SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS?
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The use of an obscure US Navy facility at San Nicolas Island to secretly test foreign-made missiles is a possible, if remote, explanation for the appearance on Monday of a mysterious condensation trail in the sky just off the California coast, according to some aerospace experts.

*snip*

The proximity of the event to the San Nicolas Island facility, though, has some civilian experts musing about the prospect that the US government simply cannot -- or will not -- acknowledge a highly secretive missile launch.

"This [could be] where we bought something we don't want the world to know we bought," said one former government insider who asked not to be named in discussing a highly sensitive topic.

On at least one occasion in the past, the Defense Department has used San Nicolas -- an uninhabited land mass in California's Channel Islands -- for engineering evaluations of foreign missiles that the US military seeks to better understand, experts told Global Security Newswire.

more at: [link to www.newmediajournal.us]
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i think this link could be relevant to this thread. follow the logic to the end. it may help make up some minds.
it changed how i veiw the missile question.
[link to contrailscience.com]
cheers all.

p.s i stole it from astro's thread...kudo's to CELLZ
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Re: BREAKING Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast
If camera man Gil recons he zoomed in at one stage and saw the object spinning like a missile, wheres that footage? Why cant we see all the raw uncut footage rather than short edits. Surely Gil woulda kept filming as long as it was visible .Anyone got that footage.


I second this question, where is this footage?


It is in the same place where all the pentagon, 911 footage is kept.
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ohyeah
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Not to change the subject, I still love to here what it really was, but I’m starting to think that this is physiological warfare at its finest. ....We are being chem-trailed into a bloody stupor, and what I’m constantly seeing over and over through the controlled media whether its finance, war, 9/11 is the controlled media’s ability to say 2+2=5. ..

I believe people are being conditioned aggressively to except the respective expert opinions who represent governmental authority. It seems they spin so many doubts and lies that the conscience can’t determine reality from fiction anymore or people are just so exhausted or depressed they don’t want to.

THINK ABOUT THIS – Chem-trailed to a stupor by aerosols terrorism…....people are impoverished by Financial terrorism & ecological terrorism… The US is waging a war in the middle east through a anti terror campaign which is clearly a front for global hegemony . They are sacrificing their own people financially and militarily on this alter of war…

PEOPLE 2+2=4.

…….I have never witnesses such atrocities and can safely say this is worse, MUCH WORSE than Nazi Germany 1939

WHY CANT PEOPLE SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS?
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Not to change the subject, I still love to here what it really was, but I’m starting to think that this is physiological warfare at its finest. ....We are being chem-trailed into a bloody stupor, and what I’m constantly seeing over and over through the controlled media whether its finance, war, 9/11 is the controlled media’s ability to say 2+2=5. ..

I believe people are being conditioned aggressively to except the respective expert opinions who represent governmental authority. It seems they spin so many doubts and lies that the conscience can’t determine reality from fiction anymore or people are just so exhausted or depressed they don’t want to.

THINK ABOUT THIS – Chem-trailed to a stupor by aerosols terrorism…....people are impoverished by Financial terrorism & ecological terrorism… The US is waging a war in the middle east through a anti terror campaign which is clearly a front for global hegemony . They are sacrificing their own people financially and militarily on this alter of war…

PEOPLE 2+2=4.

…….I have never witnesses such atrocities and can safely say this is worse, MUCH WORSE than Nazi Germany 1939

WHY CANT PEOPLE SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS?
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I do, and many others do as well. It's really quite simple actually when you realize who the true terrorists are.
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Not to change the subject, I still love to here what it really was, but I’m starting to think that this is physiological warfare at its finest. ....We are being chem-trailed into a bloody stupor, and what I’m constantly seeing over and over through the controlled media whether its finance, war, 9/11 is the controlled media’s ability to say 2+2=5. ..

I believe people are being conditioned aggressively to except the respective expert opinions who represent governmental authority. It seems they spin so many doubts and lies that the conscience can’t determine reality from fiction anymore or people are just so exhausted or depressed they don’t want to.

THINK ABOUT THIS – Chem-trailed to a stupor by aerosols terrorism…....people are impoverished by Financial terrorism & ecological terrorism… The US is waging a war in the middle east through a anti terror campaign which is clearly a front for global hegemony . They are sacrificing their own people financially and militarily on this alter of war…

PEOPLE 2+2=4.

…….I have never witnesses such atrocities and can safely say this is worse, MUCH WORSE than Nazi Germany 1939

WHY CANT PEOPLE SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS?


I do, and many others do as well. It's really quite simple actually when you realize who the true terrorists are.
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Yup.
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In January 2010, there was a SLBM launch off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada. A local resident caught a fantastic pic. This pic isn't too hard too find if you google a bit.
There was some speculation that it was a French sub doing testing, but who knows? I would think that this story might be good for some of our resident experts to compare to, more of apples to apples. The Canadian government didn't say much and the story died. Perhaps Astronut and other smartypants could take a peak at that story/pics and see what can be gleaned GLP style?
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The plane was a MD11 flight UPS902 traveling east toward Phoenix. MD11s have three engines, one on each wing and the third on the tail. When this type of jet is conning the three contrails made by the separate engines blend into one large contrail. Because of perspective a long persistent contrail looks like it is coming from the ocean surface but is really coming from the vanishing point. Because it is heading toward the zoomed in camera position it also appears to have a vertical trajectory. This same contrail view from the side would appear to run horizontal. The reason that so many conspiracy sites are promoting this persistent contrail as a missile is because it completely destroys the silly hoax of chemtrails. Chemtrails do exist but are extremely short measuring about 6 inches, the approximate distance between the left ear and the right ear of those uniformed paranoid people who are convinced that the government is spraying their own people with some concoction of chemicals from 30,000ft in order to depopulate the planet according to Agenda 21. In other words "nutcases".
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The new and accurate term for chemtrails is Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering (SAG) and it's a reality.

People in Mt. Shasta, CA, lab tested the snow on Shasta and found it contained huge amounts of aluminum. Testing is underway all over the world.

Watch the new film, "What in the World are they Spraying?":

[link to www.infowars.com]
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The new and accurate term for chemtrails is Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering (SAG) and it's a reality.

People in Mt. Shasta, CA, lab tested the snow on Shasta and found it contained huge amounts of aluminum. Testing is underway all over the world.

Watch the new film, "What in the World are they Spraying?":

[link to www.infowars.com]
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The video is a joke, they took samples from pond sludge and put the data on reports made for water samples so the numbers for aluminum were sky high. The whole film is one big lie after another. The ending is one of the funniest scenes in film history as the chemtard reporters take their pond sludge report to the halls of congress and press the congressmen to stop the poisoning Geo-engineering program. The way the congressmen politely try to get away from these nutjobs makes this so memorable.
[link to contrailscience.com]
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[link to www.prisonplanet.com]

This is a new video and the military guy their interviewing is convinced without a doubt it was a missile. He takes on the panel an makes one guy look like an idiot for saying it may have been a homemade rocket. It was on AJ PP

This ones not over.

PS Anybody who denies Chemtrails is off his freakin rocker or is a disinfo agent

2+2=4...Believe your eyes, not the lies
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i think this link could be relevant to this thread. follow the logic to the end. it may help make up some minds.
it changed how i veiw the missile question.
[link to contrailscience.com]
cheers all.

p.s i stole it from astro's thread...kudo's to CELLZ
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Now that was a great job in the link...changed my mind
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The plane was a MD11 flight UPS902 traveling east toward Phoenix. MD11s have three engines, one on each wing and the third on the tail. When this type of jet is conning the three contrails made by the separate engines blend into one large contrail. Because of perspective a long persistent contrail looks like it is coming from the ocean surface but is really coming from the vanishing point. Because it is heading toward the zoomed in camera position it also appears to have a vertical trajectory. This same contrail view from the side would appear to run horizontal. The reason that so many conspiracy sites are promoting this persistent contrail as a missile is because it completely destroys the silly hoax of chemtrails. Chemtrails do exist but are extremely short measuring about 6 inches, the approximate distance between the left ear and the right ear of those uniformed paranoid people who are convinced that the government is spraying their own people with some concoction of chemicals from 30,000ft in order to depopulate the planet according to Agenda 21. In other words "nutcases".
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I can almost buy this one. The problem with accepting a plane has been the trail does not match up with the 4 engine on the wing type planes. But I can almost see this wing/tail engine combo causing a trail like we saw.

Any photo examples of the MD11 trails? That would make it easier.

It still doesn't answer why it took so long for the military to say "it's likely a plane" and why the plane hasn't been officially identified.

But nice job anyway!
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The plane was a MD11 flight UPS902 traveling east toward Phoenix. MD11s have three engines, one on each wing and the third on the tail. When this type of jet is conning the three contrails made by the separate engines blend into one large contrail. Because of perspective a long persistent contrail looks like it is coming from the ocean surface but is really coming from the vanishing point. Because it is heading toward the zoomed in camera position it also appears to have a vertical trajectory. This same contrail view from the side would appear to run horizontal. The reason that so many conspiracy sites are promoting this persistent contrail as a missile is because it completely destroys the silly hoax of chemtrails. Chemtrails do exist but are extremely short measuring about 6 inches, the approximate distance between the left ear and the right ear of those uniformed paranoid people who are convinced that the government is spraying their own people with some concoction of chemicals from 30,000ft in order to depopulate the planet according to Agenda 21. In other words "nutcases".


I can almost buy this one. The problem with accepting a plane has been the trail does not match up with the 4 engine on the wing type planes. But I can almost see this wing/tail engine combo causing a trail like we saw.

Any photo examples of the MD11 trails? That would make it easier.

It still doesn't answer why it took so long for the military to say "it's likely a plane" and why the plane hasn't been officially identified.

But nice job
anywa
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The plane was a MD11 flight UPS902 traveling east toward Phoenix. MD11s have three engines, one on each wing and the third on the tail. When this type of jet is conning the three contrails made by the separate engines blend into one large contrail. Because of perspective a long persistent contrail looks like it is coming from the ocean surface but is really coming from the vanishing point. Because it is heading toward the zoomed in camera position it also appears to have a vertical trajectory. This same contrail view from the side would appear to run horizontal. The reason that so many conspiracy sites are promoting this persistent contrail as a missile is because it completely destroys the silly hoax of chemtrails. Chemtrails do exist but are extremely short measuring about 6 inches, the approximate distance between the left ear and the right ear of those uniformed paranoid people who are convinced that the government is spraying their own people with some concoction of chemicals from 30,000ft in order to depopulate the planet according to Agenda 21. In other words "nutcases".


I can almost buy this one. The problem with accepting a plane has been the trail does not match up with the 4 engine on the wing type planes. But I can almost see this wing/tail engine combo causing a trail like we saw.

Any photo examples of the MD11 trails? That would make it easier.

It still doesn't answer why it took so long for the military to say "it's likely a plane" and why the plane hasn't been officially identified.

But nice job
anywa



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And that..... is one hell of a contrail!!

Now get the military or the FAA to confirm that's the flight and the plane...and I think I'm sold.
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And this video shows the spiral effect


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