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Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask

 
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Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
Jewish groups, including Ashkenazi Jews, are heavily inbred. This inbreeding results both from the relatively small initial size of the Jewish gene pool coupled with strong tendencies towards endogamy, as well as the fact that Jewish culture traditionally allows and favors highly consanguineous marriages. Judaism allows uncle-niece marriages, for example.
Religious law may differ however, and marriage between uncle/niece and aunt/nephew is specifically forbidden in the Koran but permitted for Jewish communities.
[link to www.genetics.com.au]

Jewish: Uncle-niece and first-cousin marriage is allowed.
[link to www.geneletter.org]

For example, first cousin marriages are legal in countries such as the U.K. and Australia, but they are criminal offences in eight of the states of the U.S.A. and illegal in a further 31 states (Ottenheimer 1990). Yet exceptions can be incorporated into state laws, for example, to permit uncle-niece marriage within the Jewish community of Rhode Island (Bratt 1984).
[link to www.consang.net]

The co-efficient of inbreeding for an uncle-niece marriage is 1/4, compared to 1/2 for parent-child and 1/8 for first cousins. Among (non-Jewish) white Americans, even first cousin marriages came to be seen as backwards. It is amusing when certain Jews call white individuals "inbred" without realizing that they are likely to be much more inbred than the person they're applying that label to; and without realizing that their Jewish culture sanctions highly consanguineous marriages that many white Americans would find disturbing. By using "inbred" as an insult, they are ignoring their own culture and background and adopting mainstream American snobbery, which snobbery should deem real Jewish practices even worse than those of caricatured "rednecks".

An individual afflicted with Bloom Syndrome.
The effects of Jewish inbreeding
Jewish inbreeding has led to the emergence of various "Jewish diseases". Diseases unusually common among Ashkenazi Jews include Tay-Sachs, Gaucher, Canavan, certain breast cancer genes, Mucolipidosis IV, and others. Bloom Syndrome, for example, is caused by a problem in a gene that:
is involved in the copying and repair of the genetic information in the cells of the body. The most serious characteristics of this condition are a predisposition to cancer and infections.
Other features of Bloom Syndrome:
Short stature
Immunodeficiency
Photosensitivity
Diabetes mellitus
Male sterility
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Great! except that none of the links worked for me. o_O
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Re: Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
In med school they tell you that: "Jews have more genetic diseases because all the doctors studying genetic diseases were Jewish"

Here is a link that should work:
[link to www.jewishgenetics.org]

"Why are certain disorders more common among Ashkenazi Jews?
Scientists believe that certain disorders became more common among Ashkenazi Jews because of at least two processes: the "founder effect" and genetic drift.

"Founder effect" refers to the chance presence of these genes among the "founders" or ancestors who immigrated to Eastern Europe at the time of the Diaspora (70 C.E.). Prior to this time we presume that these disorders were no more common among Jews than among any other people.

Genetic drift refers to the increase in frequency of the genes for these disorders in this group, as a result of chance. Because Jews tend to not marry outside of their faith and community, the relatively high frequency of these genes among Jews did not pass into other communities, nor was the frequency lessened by the introduction of other genes from outside the Ashkenazi Jewish community"
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2,108 page views, and two replies.

I guess they really ARE afraid to ask.
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Re: Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
Great! except that none of the links worked for me. o_O
 Quoting: moondust


This one works too.

Dating Advice #130 - Genetic Risk
Marriage within the Jewish community has some genetic risks. Pre-testing is the answer.


[link to www.aish.com]

The cause of the problem seems fairly obvious.
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Re: Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
Screening is very important

[link to www.jewishgeneticdiseases.org]

[link to www.jewishgeneticdiseases.org]

I'd like to take a moment to raise awareness of this underdiagnosed Jewish disease

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This can be a huge problem when having your wisdom teeth out.
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Had a childhood jewish "friend" ( they showed me their true colors years ago> so this word is null and void)

found out their parents

were FIRST COUSINS


I was shocked.
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incestuous pigs. almost puked. uncle/niece marriage?? Wtf man.
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Re: Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
Isn't that how you breed pure bred dogs and thoroughbreds?
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Isn't that how you breed pure bred dogs and thoroughbreds?
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And you wind up with the same problems, too.

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Thank you for posting this OP. I was hoping someone would after the post about Muslim consanguineous marriage. How convenient of them to leave out data out this subject.

Jewish inbreeding is obvious to anyone with eyes to see. It's a real problem and probably the reason for the discussion of eugenics back in the day.

Good work.

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Re: Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
Alot of ethnic groups have genetic weakness. Not only jews. But i dont agree with inbreeding. Its rarer nowadays. You will find jews marry out of their family mostly. But as you said the common diseases do stay due to the fact that as an ethnic group be that sephardic and ashkenazi they share many similarities in dna. Id did marry in inregards to my ethnicity, and its weird like the ethnic traits you share with your partner are heightened.
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Hitler had a fascination with jewish genetics.
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Gaucher's disease is interesting. A fatty substance accumulates in certain organs like the liver and spleen and causes them to enlarge or malfunction. One treatment is a liver transplant.

Around 1 in 100 people in the U.S. are carriers but that number changes to 1 in 15 for Ashkenazi Jews. This group is thought to be descendants of the Khazars, a semi-nomadic Turkic people who converted to Judaism in the 9th century, so not really Jewish.
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Because you just don't understand... It's gone beyond being a man.

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Re: Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
And they suck on baby penises.
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And they suck on baby penises.
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I'm sure that doesn't help either.
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Re: Everything you wanted to know abput Jewish Inbreeding but were afraid to ask
JUDAISM IS A RELIGION - NOT A RACE

by: Rabbi Moses Jakubowicz

During the Middle Ages, the Jewish people suffered many a time from fanatically religious governments who expelled or killed whoever refused to adhere to their religious belief. In the modern era, the Jewish people suffer due to the world’s misunderstanding of the distinction between Judaism and Zionism.

Judaism is a religion, not a race. Throughout history, whoever joined the Jewish religion was called a jewish, no matter what his race, and whoever abandoned the Holy Torah was not considered a jewish. In fact, the biggest names in Jewish history were converts or descendants of converts: King David, Zipporah, Rabbi Akiva, Rabbi Meir, Shmaya and Avtalyon.

The proponents of Zionism, for their own political and financial advantage, have transformed the Jewish religion into a race. Similarly, they have taken the Torah, a book of Divine law which teaches fairness, peace and piety, and transformed it into a vehicle for their political goals, a source for their claims to a piece of land. These claims took their latest form this week, when, to our sorrow, the Zionist falsification was brought to the world’s eyes by the media.

President Bush is visiting the State of Israel, and several rabbis of the extremist Zionist settler community have penned a letter to the President, asking him to stop putting pressure on the Israeli leadership to make land concessions to the Palestinian Authority.

The letter read in part:

"It is totally presumptuous that while the US fights terror, it pressures Israel to make concessions to terrorists! In the name of the people of Israel, the Land of Israel, the Torah of Israel and the G-d of Israel, we demand that his honor the president cease the pressure on the State to hand lands to the Arabs… Honorable President, you must not be remembered in history as Nebuchadnezzar and Titus who destroyed Jerusalem. You must surely remember that American does not benefit from causing damage, Heaven forbid, to the Jewish people and its land. If you help the wholeness of our holy land, we promise you and your country endless blessings."

Signed: Dov Lior, David Druckman, Yaakov Yosef, Shmuel Eliyahu and Shalom Dov Wolpe.

The writers of this letter call themselves rabbis and speak in the name of the Jewish religion, but the world must not allow itself to be fooled. They are radical politicians and militants advancing their own agenda, for which they are distorting the Holy Torah and by doing so they are jeopardizing the Jewish people in the entire world as the Zionists did in the Second World War.

We look forward to the Messianic Era, when Jerusalem will be "a house of prayer for all nations" (Isaiah 56:7)

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com] people of G-d16.cfm

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Apparently, not all the jewishes are insane. hf

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