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You are correct in that thought, but do you have a complete picture of the dynamics of the situation? Do you think it is possible for the chess players to test each others systems to fine tune them to avoid a check mate?
 Quoting: Jezzebella


Things are really muddled these days.

Lots going on... the paradigms of 20 years ago don't work now.

I don't know what is going on, but I do know the Chinese didn't launch a missile off our coast without it being allowed to happen.

And I can't see any scenario where that would be the case... so it has to be one of ours.

If the Chinese have the capability to do this, they wouldn't have risked such an asset so provocatively.

Advanced submarines with very quiet ability are HUGE investments. They simply would have found a less risky way of demonstrating what they could do.

That's all I've got.

You can all believe what you want.

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or they test fired a missile at the wrong spot when it was supposed to be more secret. they slipped up and fired too close to the coastline. i still really think that they were testing out the new laser defense system.

can anyone bring up any 747 military flights within 100 miles of the missile launch?
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What gets me is that there has been ZERO news about the missile flight path and final destination.

Our ability to see things in the air is beyond phenomenal! The Sea-Based X-band Radar platform (which roams around the pacific... I'm unsure of it's current position) is able to see and track at incredible distances.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I've read an article where a General was quoted as saying the X-Band system resolution is so sensitive that it can detect and track an object the size of a baseball over San Francisco from the other side of the Pacific.

Why, is this missile/whatever so elusive. Is the info just not being disclosed to the public?



You just answered your own question in the question you asked.

Its all sizzle. Uh we don't know what it was, uh swamp gas, uh optical illusion, uh con train, uh chem trail, uh hologram.
It was a ICBM.
Do you really think the top brass wouldn't know about this before it happened?

Its all staged.
 Quoting: 2342


I guess it's "The Lie" thats so hard for me to accept... that our own people would set diabolical shit up and willingly f*ck the citizens of this country to further their twisted games.

I know it's the truth...I know they do it all the time. Still it's nearly impossible for me to grasp that they would do these things to us (to harm us) with no reservations.

Sad truth about the world we live in today. I wish we could trust our own government and really knew what they were doing.

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Regardless of what is true or not...These are definitely some INTERESTING "times" we are living in.
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This is completely explained here:
[link to contrailscience.com]
It was only a persistent contrail made by flight 808 from Hawaii heading east towards Phoenix. No radar image appeared of any missile at that time because there was NO missile launch. A long persistent contrail can extend from horizon to horizon making it appear that it's coming out from the oceans surface. The jet was also moving way too slow to be a missile. The conspiracy sites are pushing this missile plot because they don't want to admit that contrails can form long persistent trails because it debunks the entire Chem-trail hoax. There is ASOLUTELY no proof of the chem-trail hoax and certainly no proof of a Chinese missile launch. Chem-trailers believe what they do because the IGNORE the 70 years of the well understood science of contrail formation. The word IGNORE is the root word of IGNORANCE of which Chem-trailers have plenty of.
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our government has to be secretive nowadays. with the internet and radios they have to keep their mouths shut on everything otherwise our enemies will know too much.
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Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, November 11, 2010, 2:17 PM

I still don't think China has anything to do with this, but this article is quite interesting nonetheless.

The missile fired off of the California coast this week appeared on the same day that a Chinese sub surprised US officials when it appeared suddenly in a US carrier group back in 2007.

Back in 2007 a Chinese submarine surprised American military chiefs when it popped up close to the massive U.S.S. Kitty Hawk.
HotAir reported back in 2007:

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk – a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

And...the rest is here: [link to gatewaypundit.firstthings.com]


They are conditioning the sheep into thinking the Chinese are going to attack us? sheeplebah


Man, I'm half and half on this issue. But, that would make sense.


Why else would they leak info about a chinese sub undetected the same day?

They did not just leak that info it was in the news three years ago.


Well there you go. And then it was brought up again the same day as the missile launch off California. What a coincidence.
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I came across it by googling china, stealth ,submarine. Gee give us some credit here.Some of us like to research "Ideas" you never know what pops up.you should try googling QE2 See how pissed the world really is.I am on your team just saying don't get so full of yourself you start taking things for granted.Your leader has taken half your navy with him what a perfect time to test your defenses and send a message.
Its easy for those who feel they have been wronged to call out for retribution. Unless it is they themselves that suffer the consequences.
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Mabe they are wanting to start a WAR...
You are correct in that thought, but do you have a complete picture of the dynamics of the situation? Do you think it is possible for the chess players to test each others systems to fine tune them to avoid a check mate?


Things are really muddled these days.

Lots going on... the paradigms of 20 years ago don't work now.

I don't know what is going on, but I do know the Chinese didn't launch a missile off our coast without it being allowed to happen.

And I can't see any scenario where that would be the case... so it has to be one of ours.

If the Chinese have the capability to do this, they wouldn't have risked such an asset so provocatively.

Advanced submarines with very quiet ability are HUGE investments. They simply would have found a less risky way of demonstrating what they could do.

That's all I've got.

You can all believe what you want.

:dogbitegun:
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Regardless of what is true or not...These are definitely some INTERESTING "times" we are living in.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



My general impression is that you are a nice person and you are flexible in your thinking.
With the quotes attached to your reply, if you truly believe in GOD, stirring up negative emotions is something you should consider before you post a thread like this.

Best wishes.
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I still don't think China has anything to do with this



I do.


:mmmmhmm:
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if there is no excuse for a war .let.s find one the usa govertment is good at finding an excuse for wars ..

w.o.m.d.is one of them.
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They are conditioning the sheep into thinking the Chinese are going to attack us? sheeplebah
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+100000 THIS ^^^


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Regardless of what is true or not...These are definitely some INTERESTING "times" we are living in.



My general impression is that you are a nice person and you are flexible in your thinking.
With the quotes attached to your reply, if you truly believe in GOD, stirring up negative emotions is something you should consider before you post a thread like this.

Best wishes.
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even if its just a weather baloon or john travoltas jet leaving L.A.. Folks should keep a detailed monitoring of the goings and comings of cheny and rumsfield now.
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This is completely explained here:
[link to contrailscience.com]
It was only a persistent contrail made by flight 808 from Hawaii heading east towards Phoenix. No radar image appeared of any missile at that time because there was NO missile launch. A long persistent contrail can extend from horizon to horizon making it appear that it's coming out from the oceans surface. The jet was also moving way too slow to be a missile. The conspiracy sites are pushing this missile plot because they don't want to admit that contrails can form long persistent trails because it debunks the entire Chem-trail hoax. There is ASOLUTELY no proof of the chem-trail hoax and certainly no proof of a Chinese missile launch. Chem-trailers believe what they do because the IGNORE the 70 years of the well understood science of contrail formation. The word IGNORE is the root word of IGNORANCE of which Chem-trailers have plenty of.
 Quoting: POPS 1158908

Ok, you and the rest of the planetards DO have a valid argument as contrails can be deceiving. BUT>>>This evening, the sky was the same orange hue, it basically looked like it did the night in question. the sky was littered with contrails, and some looked to be coming off the horizon with a squiggly contour, BUT none of them were straight up, nor as thick nor moving as fast as the one off the coast. I sat and looked at them for quite awhile, yes, a plane can make something that looks somewhat similar, but there was a distinct difference.
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This is completely explained here:
[link to contrailscience.com]
It was only a persistent contrail made by flight 808 from Hawaii heading east towards Phoenix. No radar image appeared of any missile at that time because there was NO missile launch. A long persistent contrail can extend from horizon to horizon making it appear that it's coming out from the oceans surface. The jet was also moving way too slow to be a missile. The conspiracy sites are pushing this missile plot because they don't want to admit that contrails can form long persistent trails because it debunks the entire Chem-trail hoax. There is ASOLUTELY no proof of the chem-trail hoax and certainly no proof of a Chinese missile launch. Chem-trailers believe what they do because the IGNORE the 70 years of the well understood science of contrail formation. The word IGNORE is the root word of IGNORANCE of which Chem-trailers have plenty of.
 Quoting: POPS 1158908

You would think if this was the case, that the Pentagon, NORAD, and the entire US Armed Forces would've known what it was just a tad faster...not beat around the bush about the topic, and than finally, 3 days later pull this out of their ass.
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I still don't think China has anything to do with this



I do.


:mmmmhmm:

if there is no excuse for a war .let.s find one the usa govertment is good at finding an excuse for wars ..

w.o.m.d.is one of them.
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everyone else can kill people and demolish stuff, but whenever the us decides to defend its interests we are just sooooo evil~

we have stopped more wars than we have started. we have created a shitload of new technologies since our founding, we have done a lot more good for the world than people like to admit.
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if there is no excuse for a war .let.s find one the usa govertment is good at finding an excuse for wars ..

w.o.m.d.is one of them.
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I still don't think China has anything to do with this



I do.


:mmmmhmm:

if there is no excuse for a war .let.s find one the usa govertment is good at finding an excuse for wars ..

w.o.m.d.is one of them.



everyone else can kill people and demolish stuff, but whenever the us decides to defend its interests we are just sooooo evil~

we have stopped more wars than we have started. we have created a shitload of new technologies since our founding, we have done a lot more good for the world than people like to admit.
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Not to be a dickhead but someone already posted this same article the same day the missile launch happened and it was pointed out it was 2007.

Now the same article get's pinned based on conjecture...and no, it wasn't me that posted the sub article, just wondering why this is pinned based on something the Chinese did in 2007.


Because of the corresponding dates. I think I answered this already on here. :)
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Wow a 1 and 365 chance!!! What steep odds!
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This is completely explained here:
[link to contrailscience.com]
It was only a persistent contrail made by flight 808 from Hawaii heading east towards Phoenix. No radar image appeared of any missile at that time because there was NO missile launch. A long persistent contrail can extend from horizon to horizon making it appear that it's coming out from the oceans surface. The jet was also moving way too slow to be a missile. The conspiracy sites are pushing this missile plot because they don't want to admit that contrails can form long persistent trails because it debunks the entire Chem-trail hoax. There is ASOLUTELY no proof of the chem-trail hoax and certainly no proof of a Chinese missile launch. Chem-trailers believe what they do because the IGNORE the 70 years of the well understood science of contrail formation. The word IGNORE is the root word of IGNORANCE of which Chem-trailers have plenty of.

Ok, you and the rest of the planetards DO have a valid argument as contrails can be deceiving. BUT>>>This evening, the sky was the same orange hue, it basically looked like it did the night in question. the sky was littered with contrails, and some looked to be coming off the horizon with a squiggly contour, BUT none of them were straight up, nor as thick nor moving as fast as the one off the coast. I sat and looked at them for quite awhile, yes, a plane can make something that looks somewhat similar, but there was a distinct difference.
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A plane making a long persistent contrail that is heading toward the viewer will appear to be heading vertically do to perspective.
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Whatever could it be???

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hf


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and america will push the human race even farther into space and continue to develop very helpful technology, we might even stop islam and get the world to really be peaceful and continue to grow.

we should be mining helium 3 by now~
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Regardless of what is true or not...These are definitely some INTERESTING "times" we are living in.



My general impression is that you are a nice person and you are flexible in your thinking.
With the quotes attached to your reply, if you truly believe in GOD, stirring up negative emotions is something you should consider before you post a thread like this.

Best wishes.


Think of it as an awakening.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



Yeah!!!

And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Zechariah 14:12
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Ok, but who fired at who, is what I'm asking.

BTW.. anyone know if the Chinese have Trident D-5 tech or not?


At the sea.

They don't need Trident D-5 tech...

I posted this vid 20 times last night in support of this arguement...


The US military and Pentagon are in a FRENZY right now covering their asses from that CHINESE SUB LAUNCHED MISSILE.

Maybe SOMEONE smart SAVED the MODIS video to their PC???

Yep.

It was the only vid I could find of a Chinese SLBM being launched (none of the JL2)... it had been uploaded to youtube just last month... deleted after last night.

This is where it was...


YouTube - JL-1 SLBM

Sep 18, 2010 ... JuLang-1 SLBM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV9ckSBPE8E - Cached




*Edit*

Cached vid gone from Google too.

Vids been removed...
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


I am so sorry I'm late to the party. I didn't see this last night. I've been unwell. What did this video show?

Suddenly, I need a moment to reprocess. I'm trying to keep track of the progression of this thread and another along the same lines here Thread: Mystery "Launch" Hypothetical Orbital Elements *SIGHTING INDIRECTLY CONFIRMED, SOMETHING IS OUT THERE!!!!* (Page 6)

Astro,

I am just now seeing that the helicopter pilot allegedly filmed the object for 10 minutes... doesn't that kind of rule out a missile? Would he have been able to film an object moving that fast for that long?

It rules out your run-of-the-mill SLBM. SLBM launches last only about 3 minutes. A shuttle launch lasts nearly 9 minutes. It would have to be something much larger and heavier like that, a full blown rocket like a delta, falcon, etc which would also imply it was farther away than thought. If headed NNW, maybe just maybe you could follow it approximately that long if you were flying in a helicopter. It should stop showing a trail of exhaust sooner than 10 minutes though, I would think. Something's not adding up with his account vs what I saw. If what I saw was true, it sure as hell wasn't eastbound. Could it be a giant coincidence and there's some unknown classified sat in a similar orbit to what I predicted? Sure. Is that likely? I don't think so. It still begs the question though, what the hell was it that I saw?
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If you'd like, I'll fill in the gaps.

I feel really stupid, Scrump. I came dressed for a party only to find that the invitation was for LAST night.

sigh
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I still don't think China has anything to do with this



I do.


:mmmmhmm:

if there is no excuse for a war .let.s find one the usa govertment is good at finding an excuse for wars ..

w.o.m.d.is one of them.



everyone else can kill people and demolish stuff, but whenever the us decides to defend its interests we are just sooooo evil~

we have stopped more wars than we have started. we have created a shitload of new technologies since our founding, we have done a lot more good for the world than people like to admit.
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wtf bsflag
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we have stopped more wars than we have started. we have created a shitload of new technologies since our founding, we have done a lot more good for the world than people like to admit.


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eaglehalo
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If the Chinese wanted to play this game they simply would have surfaced near some harbor and put some some Chinese flag on the sail of their boat and waited for some media to come by and take pictures... maybe even exchange some words and represent for China.

Not fire a WWIII starting missile on a suicide mission.

REALLY NOW

tard

You're not as smart as you think you are so give it a rest doc.
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From the evidence, I believe Least is spot on with his assessment.

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everyone else can kill people and demolish stuff, but whenever the us decides to defend its interests we are just sooooo evil~

we have stopped more wars than we have started. we have created a shitload of new technologies since our founding, we have done a lot more good for the world than people like to admit.


flag waver
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But it's the people who ultimately gain control and restricted access to these technologies that fuck everything up.
The American people on average are good upstanding citizens.

It's our "Elected Officials" that "Represent" the American people that need to be re-examined...
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I came dressed for a party only to find that the invitation was for LAST night.

sigh
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hugs

That wasn't what I was saying at all Khimmy.
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I guess it's "The Lie" thats so hard for me to accept... that our own people would set diabolical shit up and willingly f*ck the citizens of this country to further their twisted games.

I know it's the truth...I know they do it all the time. Still it's nearly impossible for me to grasp that they would do these things to us (to harm us) with no reservations.

Sad truth about the world we live in today. I wish we could trust our own government and really knew what they were doing.

blackeye
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Ummmm....did you somehow miss the whole 911 thing?

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