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I had a huge UFO experience and need to hear from others if they have seen same...

 
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OP, anything like this, 50 seconds in:


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Nope, nothing like that. it was like a single row of lights. no contour or triangle, just one single row of lights in a straight line which did not veer to one side or the other. it almost could have been disk shape because there were many of them in different parts of the sky and all you could see was this single row of lights the whole time from all angles. From our vantage point it looked the first one looked as big as a double engine plane (or about the width of about two or three tree tops on that hill, and the other ones in the sky looked much farther away.
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you may have missed this salt and light on page 4

Personally, I would like to know why the orbs are always in the trees. The trees are useful in some way, not sure how.

Please tell your story!



The tree above all other entities clearly displays how to reverse the field direction and creates what most call anti gravity.
The sap falls to the top of the tree from our perception of up/down.


assists buoyancy at low level/low power
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on reflection the sequence better reads "assists" buoyancy at low level/less effort

the added consideration is the less effort, the less "overload" effects on the sensitivities of the contactees

if you read the executive summary of this you will be aware of the uk government opinion

UAP in the UK Air Defence Region: Executive Summary
[link to www.mod.uk]

the mod confirms your experience as real but denies what you contacted was intelligent within human awareness/definition of intelligent
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I have had a UFO experience myself.

I think the worst thing we experiencers can do is to fall into the "I'm special" trap.

The fact is, we're not. But the mind can't deal with that.

It was a random encounter. That's it. Nothing more.

I believe they are opportunists, and you were the victim in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I've been trying to figure mine out for quite some time...and I've noticed my mind plays tricks on me. It really tries to convince me that "I'm special."

I refuse to believe this.
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Thanks for posting this. I have been searching on and off for someone who has had a similar experience. What I saw upclose and personal back in 1979 has never left my memory. My son who was 2 years old at the time had similar experiences during this time and even today if someone brings up the subject we just look at each other and look away.

What was similar was the flourescent green orb. Now, what I saw was not a ball or sphere but was a three dimensional circle that had notches or dashes on it's outside edges. I would guess the lighted up circle was at least 2 or 3 feet in size from top to bottom. The bright lighted up cirlce part looked like it was about 1 to 2 inches in thickness on the cirlce edge part and the same for the height of the circle edge part. The lighted up notches were in perfect rectagle precision about 3 to 6 inches in length. It moved with grace and precision, like it was gliding or turning but not like a wheel would turn. The inside moved backwards while the outside moved forward and this seemed to be how it moved so gracefully. There was form all in flourescent green light but it had no frame or metal parts. Back in the 70's when I saw this up close and personal, the flourescent green color I saw I had never seen before. It would be another couple years before I seen something like this color in a glow stick only the flourescent color and glow of this thing was much more rich and bright and glowed so much brighter than a glow stick.

I apologize for the wall of words as I have no other way to describe it. I did a primitive sketch in pencil that does not do it justice to help me figure out what I saw.

I have to be honest this was inside my house not more than 1 1/2 ft to 2 feet away from me. I jumped literally across the bed over my husband as far away as I could get in a single bound. It disappeared while I was leaping away from it. I never saw it again or if I did I have no memory of it.

For the other things that were similar. I was having dreams and one vision and they would all come true within 2 days. It was so weird to have a dream see what happened and then 2 days later hearing about it on the news or from a neighbor. My husband and inlaws were amazed because of the accuracy of these dreams. I want to add that this all happened at a house in Arizona and I have never had those accurate dreams to that degree since. My son who was two at the time told me he saw puppet hands. He said they were black and white puppet hands at his window. At the time I never consider these things connected until later. I called the police to ask if they had any recent reports of people harrassing small children from their windows at night. The police said negative but did send an officer to take a report and he even spoke to my then 2 year old son.

I had another experience that has bothered me my whole life during this same time living in that house. Since then I have heard it is called an out of body experience. My husband and I were in bed. All of a sudden I could see me and him laying in bed sleeping. I saw the red numbers of our alarm clock glowing from the night stand. I moved in air across the room through the bedroom door and I saw the wall furnace on the wall in the living room. It gave off a radiant amber glow towards the floor as I floated by it. I turned in air towards the kitchen and it became dark. So dark I was scared to the point that immediately I was back in my body. I sat up in bed and wondering what just happened.

During this time but I never associated it with what was going on until I read this thread. My washer, refrig and evap cooler went out all at the same time. The stove was an old gas stove and the old gas wall furnace were the only appliances that didn't have to be replaced. Even our TV and Stereo fried. All this happened within a week. I started going through watch batteries. I could not wear a watch necklace, watch ring or watch on my wrist without the battery going dead within days. Streetlights went off as I drove by just like was reported here. But I never thought that kind up stuff was related until now.

What was creepy because my friend made it creepy was I was pregnant and not very far along when this all happened. She was teasing me about what I saw and said maybe it was the aliens coming for your baby. I don't know if this is related but we just found out my daughter now 30 that I was pregnant with when this happened was born with only one ovary, one fallopian tube, 1/2 a uterus and 1 kidney. She has always been healthy and this was a shock to know this. The doctor told her it was a birth defect and it would have happened during the first and fourth month in my tummy as that is when the reproductive organs are developed. Just so happens that was around the same time I saw what I saw.

Fast forward to 1996. I put my mobile home for sale through an ad in the newspaper. A man named Selman or maybe Solman bought it and that was that. I just moved into my new house in Phoenix and the local news had him on. It was on channel 10. He saw a UFO crash in the vicinity where I lived in that house where all weird stuff had happened. The UFO crash happened when he was a boy while on a hunting trip. He described it crashing and skidding for quite a distance along what was Cavecreek Road in the Dreamy Draw area of Phoenix but wasn't a road at the time when the crash happened. It was just desert and no homes back then. He said there where military vehicles converging on the wreckage and it got busy real quick with military vehicles and personel.

That's when I first thought that maybe what I experienced was somehow related to what he witness so many years ago. I often wondered if there was some type of wreckage or part that was buried somehow under the soil my house was built on. I have no other explanation for what happened. When I moved from that house in 1980, the weird stuff stopped.

Well, this is enough. I don't know what it was I saw and experienced. I didn't see any men or little greys or anything medical or metal or anything like that. I thought the out of body experience was pretty cool even though it was frightening. I had a dream while living there where I was soaring down a hill close to the ground similar to feeling and seeing myself in the air out of my body that happened in my house. Although, I have never hang glided in my life the dream was just like what I imagine hang gliding would be like. The wind in my face, blowing my hair, gliding effortlessly down to the ground from what felt like a small mountain or tall hill. That dream did not scare me but the flourescent green glowing circle did. I would never want to experience those things again and consider the memories more frightful and scary than anything else.

I'm not sure what I experienced still. The blood type thing creeps me out. I really would like to know what happened 31 years ago. I know I don't want to ever experience anything like that again. I have other stuff that I experienced too. But this is the one I really want to know about. Thanks.
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Thank you for posting this. There are some similarities to my experience. The thing that sticks out the most is the dream aspect. I had a series of apocalyptic dreams that were so distressing... then i had dreams about relocated to colorado, which i had no plans to do so at the time and didn't connect the dots in the dreams until i got here and saw specific locations here from dreams. I also had dreams where battles ensued between me and the other entities that were some of the most terrifying dreams of my life. One dream in particular, in a quick synopsis of it, was that they were coming for me and my son at my house. it sounded like huge gale force winds. water started to rise on the ground and the winds were destructive and very loud things blowing around everywhere - debris and branches. i was terrified and started to make markings on my windows. giant X's across each window in green paint, with the letter G over the Xs to mark that God was here and they couldn't come in.

There were many dreams that stood out. One dream i had was where the entity was coming for me and my son and he was giant, like three stories tall. I couldn't see him but could hear his foot steps that shook the ground with each stomp. I was looking for a place to hide my son, who was a baby still during this time (in dream and in reality). I eventually realized that the only way to protect and save him was to kill him and send him to God. As I rose the knife I was crying hysterically and completely devastated and sickened. I woke up at that point, still crying hysterically and saw a shadow pass down the hallway wall like something was leaving the house. I was completely freaked out that i could dream something like that and wondered how this could be in me? After seeing a therapist some time after all that, i realized that it wasn't in me because of my reaction.

Other dreams, natural disasters, mostly mega-tornados, planets in the wrong place in the sky, sun supernovas, stuff like that. The last of the dreams came around 2006 or so. Even my husband at the time had unusual dreams for him, like being tied to the outside of airplane that was doing big loopy circles in the sky and he would slide up and down the wing of this thing.
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I have had a UFO experience myself.

I think the worst thing we experiencers can do is to fall into the "I'm special" trap.

The fact is, we're not. But the mind can't deal with that.

It was a random encounter. That's it. Nothing more.

I believe they are opportunists, and you were the victim in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I've been trying to figure mine out for quite some time...and I've noticed my mind plays tricks on me. It really tries to convince me that "I'm special."

I refuse to believe this.
 Quoting: Tetraktys


i agree with you wholeheartedly. the "special" aspect of it was troubling for me and seemed dirty and tempting and I won't go there anymore. (see earlier posts within this thread) It seems like a tactic that is used or could simply be a by-product, not sure.
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It would be another couple years before I seen something like this color in a glow stick only the flourescent color and glow of this thing was much more rich and bright and glowed so much brighter than a glow stick. ****


that is the exact color of the orb i saw, "glow-in-the-dark" green only very bright. also,the projected image we saw, even though way fainter the the light of the orb was also flourescent green.
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I could have sworn half-way through that story, you (the main character) was going to come running out of the tent screaming "haaiiiirlp,a dingo's got moi baby!!"
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something else salt and light, somewhere i got that the insects (crickets etc) changed their chirping into a harmonic "all at the same time" rhythm but i can not see it written

can you help me with that as in, is it in your awareness of memory?
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Salt and Light you said,
Do you have thoughts about the apocryphal book of Adam and Eve book 1 & 2? I just got finished reading them with Secrets of Enoch. Is there anything there that relates to what you are trying to show me?

I am wondering what are your thoughts, as I do not know you' and may comment on something that is not of importance to you, as of now.
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I have had a UFO experience myself.

I think the worst thing we experiencers can do is to fall into the "I'm special" trap.

The fact is, we're not. But the mind can't deal with that.

It was a random encounter. That's it. Nothing more.

I believe they are opportunists, and you were the victim in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I've been trying to figure mine out for quite some time...and I've noticed my mind plays tricks on me. It really tries to convince me that "I'm special."

I refuse to believe this.
 Quoting: Tetraktys


umm..
I'm sorry I have to say it..but

IF YOU HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED..THAT MAKES YOU SPECIAL..please..

You sure aint ordinary!

cruise

p a l e e z e!

cruise
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I haven't read this entire thread so you may have already provided this information, but what was it that you guys saw projected on that screen that you described. You wrote that the three of you saw "something different" projected on the screen. What sort of images did you see?
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Salt and Light (OP) Thanks for your post. After having my third "experience" a few years back, I started talking to some of my extended family about it in a round about way. Come to find out ALL of my family and extended family (cousins, uncles, etc.) have had these type of contacts..some more intense than others. Some won't really talk about it but admit something happened to them or they saw something.

I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, our family is being "watched". The family of origin grew up in the Valley of Lights in Colorado when they moved from OK during the depression. Also, everyone displays all the abilities on the list you wrote up. ESP, etc. The kinetic energy thing is the most annoying. I haven't tried to wear a watch in years.

Thanks for sharing. I know how hard that was.
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I think mufon is really mib


MUFON is not who we think they are, i suspect. They are infiltrated... perhaps.

OR, the people that said they were from MUFON were not. I never checked them out, I just took them at their word. I still have a post card that the man sent me. It has his signature with a P.O. box for mailing address. That address is not good anymore.
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Infiltrated? Yes.

Delores Cannon, the UFO hypnotherapist, even said when she first started interacting with MUFON in its inception, it really seemed like a group of normal people trying to figure the phenomena out.

But as time went on, she said they changed to being only interested in drilling people for what they know, especially in regards to any ET technology the abductees might have seen.

She tries to stay away from them now.
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something else salt and light, somewhere i got that the insects (crickets etc) changed their chirping into a harmonic "all at the same time" rhythm but i can not see it written

can you help me with that as in, is it in your awareness of memory?
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i remember it as noticing it at one point long into the night like right before dawn and commenting on it to the men and them commenting back that they heard it that way too. in an earlier post i described it this way:


the sound was like crickets chirping, only no chirp, just constant almost like fax machine but not as squealy and no interruption in the tone, one constant drone which felt like static in the air in a way.

The thing about it though is that at that point i was very scared and hyper-looking around for weird stuff going on. so even tho i heard it that way and the men noticed it too, it could have been the chaos of the event that made me hear something that may or may not have been there. weird to try and explain. trying to rationalize...
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Salt and Light (OP) Thanks for your post. After having my third "experience" a few years back, I started talking to some of my extended family about it in a round about way. Come to find out ALL of my family and extended family (cousins, uncles, etc.) have had these type of contacts..some more intense than others. Some won't really talk about it but admit something happened to them or they saw something.

I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, our family is being "watched". The family of origin grew up in the Valley of Lights in Colorado when they moved from OK during the depression. Also, everyone displays all the abilities on the list you wrote up. ESP, etc. The kinetic energy thing is the most annoying. I haven't tried to wear a watch in years.

Thanks for sharing. I know how hard that was.
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Would it be possible to convince your extended family to post their experience in this thread? I realize it can be difficult to talk about but it may help find answers.
cheers
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Salt and Light (OP) Thanks for your post. After having my third "experience" a few years back, I started talking to some of my extended family about it in a round about way. Come to find out ALL of my family and extended family (cousins, uncles, etc.) have had these type of contacts..some more intense than others. Some won't really talk about it but admit something happened to them or they saw something.

I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, our family is being "watched". The family of origin grew up in the Valley of Lights in Colorado when they moved from OK during the depression. Also, everyone displays all the abilities on the list you wrote up. ESP, etc. The kinetic energy thing is the most annoying. I haven't tried to wear a watch in years.

Thanks for sharing. I know how hard that was.
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Would it be possible to convince your extended family to post their experience in this thread? I realize it can be difficult to talk about but it may help find answers.
cheers
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Salt and Light (OP) Thanks for your post. After having my third "experience" a few years back, I started talking to some of my extended family about it in a round about way. Come to find out ALL of my family and extended family (cousins, uncles, etc.) have had these type of contacts..some more intense than others. Some won't really talk about it but admit something happened to them or they saw something.

I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, our family is being "watched". The family of origin grew up in the Valley of Lights in Colorado when they moved from OK during the depression. Also, everyone displays all the abilities on the list you wrote up. ESP, etc. The kinetic energy thing is the most annoying. I haven't tried to wear a watch in years.

Thanks for sharing. I know how hard that was.
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i found out about my father's experiences as a child during the time he came to the house to help me with harrassing MUFON guy. He told me that he felt "scanned" by a floating object that looked like a chandelier (? ok dad...) with colored lights on it that slowly passed over his body from head to toe while he was lying in bed. He was around 12 years old. he describes it as noiseless and he believes he was wide awake when it happened.

it is hard! really hard! people do not realize how troubling it is and how hard it is to talk about it without sounding like a complete whack job. i am working on my psychology degree and i still can't find a comfortable way to come terms with all that has happened.
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Salt and Light (OP) Thanks for your post. After having my third "experience" a few years back, I started talking to some of my extended family about it in a round about way. Come to find out ALL of my family and extended family (cousins, uncles, etc.) have had these type of contacts..some more intense than others. Some won't really talk about it but admit something happened to them or they saw something.

I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, our family is being "watched". The family of origin grew up in the Valley of Lights in Colorado when they moved from OK during the depression. Also, everyone displays all the abilities on the list you wrote up. ESP, etc. The kinetic energy thing is the most annoying. I haven't tried to wear a watch in years.

Thanks for sharing. I know how hard that was.

Would it be possible to convince your extended family to post their experience in this thread? I realize it can be difficult to talk about but it may help find answers.
cheers
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Just getting them to open up to me was a major undertaking, which started with me talking to one and then they would say, "You really need to talk to so-and-so." I had to build this chain of information over the past few years and I believe very few have written it down. There is a stigma attached to these experiences...and most of them are afraid of being thought of as "crazy". I am working on compiling the information for future generations of our family. Not an easy task at this point.
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I haven't read this entire thread so you may have already provided this information, but what was it that you guys saw projected on that screen that you described. You wrote that the three of you saw "something different" projected on the screen. What sort of images did you see?
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this was an interesting aspect that we didn't realize until after the MUFON investigation. we were all taken into different rooms and asked like almost 200 questions each. we discussed the investigation at the dinner table afterward and the thing different about our answers was two things, what we saw on the screen (the men saw it on two nights and they saw something different between them the first night as well) and that my husband saw a craft that neither Rob or I saw that he described as two disks turning in opposite directions. (Like Ezekiel's wheel in a way) My exhusband would not know anything about Ezekiel's wheel, trust me. He is not a reader of books, but can be described more as a man's man, football and ultimate fighting matches and friday nights playing keno at the bar, knowhatimean?

what i saw was a dot matrix pattern in a sort of half of an eight like a single loop that extended off each end to the left and right, Rob saw dancing girls (explains a lot...) and my husband saw children running around in sillhouette. We assumed at the time that it was happening that we all saw the same thing.
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something else salt and light, somewhere i got that the insects (crickets etc) changed their chirping into a harmonic "all at the same time" rhythm but i can not see it written

can you help me with that as in, is it in your awareness of memory?

i remember it as noticing it at one point long into the night like right before dawn and commenting on it to the men and them commenting back that they heard it that way too. in an earlier post i described it this way:


the sound was like crickets chirping, only no chirp, just constant almost like fax machine but not as squealy and no interruption in the tone, one constant drone which felt like static in the air in a way.

The thing about it though is that at that point i was very scared and hyper-looking around for weird stuff going on. so even tho i heard it that way and the men noticed it too, it could have been the chaos of the event that made me hear something that may or may not have been there. weird to try and explain. trying to rationalize...
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thanks salt and light, regarding the uk mod report i posted, i wrote a rhyme which i hope makes you smile

the plasma existence is part disclosure
as this uk ministry report shows you
the interesting part you may find
is close contact effects the mind
this often may lead you to think you have met
an intelligent being or a supernatural effect
the physics that come with us knowing the truth
allows travel over distance to go through the roof
not only do we know that they can come to us
we discover that many actually live amongst to us
Thread: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine. (Page 4)
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Just to comment a few details about your story;

- People going to bed early is because of the fresh air outdoors. You sleep more, easily up to 12 hours per night (if 7-8 hours is normal). So nothing weird about that.

- The "missile" type of thingy that you saw, was most likely an F-5E Tiger II, it's used a lot for training purposes by the US military. So just saying that it doesn't have to be related.

- The MUFON people sound also "normal". They are some nutcases who believe every conspiracy theory in the world, and are just dying to see a UFO. They try to take a scientific approach to these ufo-sightings, without possibly really knowing why/what to do. So they dig up every little detail they can think of, file it somewhere, and let it be. So I'm sure they are annoying, even scary, possibly invading your privacy for no reason. So don't worry.

- These strange lights and orbs that you saw, there can be a dozen possible explenations to them. About the green orb, I'm guessing it is related to the military activity in the area. The military uses green lasers a lot for different targeting purposes, and from a distance of 1-2 kilometers in somewhat darkness the beam could easily look like a 5-foot orb on a tree. Who ever was using it, would then have moved the pointer (which creates the vision of moving orb), and then finally switched it off, causing the orb to disappear.

The green lasers are very dangerous, but from that distance they will merely cause a little bit of pain in your eyes, and a sensation of dizziness etc. If the laser is pointed directly to your eyes, you can also get a similar symptom as when you look at the sun, the image stays in your vision for some time.

These laser-caused eye problems can even last a very long time (up to days), then occasionally disappear and then re-appear later.

It could offer one explanation to the rectangular object that you saw hovering there for 20 minutes, and then you falling asleep afterwards. It could also explain the "radio" sound inside your head, and exactly in a way that it's not in your ears, but inside the head.

As said, the military lasers are very dangerous, and it could well be that they left a severe trauma inside your head, which up to years later can still make you see shadows, hear whispers, feel nausious, and other weird things.

It could also explain why your husband "shut down", possibly he was affected even worse, and didn't know what was going on. Maybe he thought you are crazy, and also made him crazy, or something.

Lasers, as well as strong radars in military use can be very bad for anyone in the area. Potentially they can even cook your eye-balls if you're very unlucky.

Your prank-phone calls could have just been that - prank phone calls.


I'm not saying that my theory is correct, but it would surely explain 95% of your experience. I've been hit by a green laserbeam from a distance of a few hundred meters, so I know. Luckily it was not military-strength.

So it could well be that you should blame the US military for ruining your life for being careless, and there is no conspiracy, UFO, evil spirit, or MIB.

I'd recommend you to look into this possibility, it could just give you a piece of mind, and relieve you from the agony.

In any case, all the best to you. God bless.
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The dreams I had were of events that really happened within days of the dream. Some were big world news events and some were local events. All were bad. I even dreamt of things that happened in foreign countries. The dreams were so precise I wanted at the time to warn people and I had wished at the time I could figure out a way to warn people what may happen. But really how does one go about doing that? Who would you contact and who would listen to an average Jane? This was way before the internet. Sounds crazy I know.

Every dream came to pass. But it only happened at that house. I didn't have such detailed dreams that came true before moving there nor after we moved. I never connected the dreams to the other stuff I saw until this thread.

I wonder why these things have similarities but yet each person has a different experience? That is probably why it has taken so long for me to speak up.

I really want to know if anyone else has seen the flourescent green 3-D circle in motion indoors rather than outside. I didn't see it in a tree nor in the sky. I don't know what to believe. Could it be alien technology being shared with governments? Could it be evil? Are they all evil? If this is spiritual then is it possible that some are evil and some not.

Remember, Ezekiel's wheel within a wheel vision? That was not evil. What I saw was similar a circle where the inside was moving one direction and the outside of the circle was moving in the other...very similar in movement of a wheel within a wheel.
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Just to comment a few details about your story;

- People going to bed early is because of the fresh air outdoors. You sleep more, easily up to 12 hours per night (if 7-8 hours is normal). So nothing weird about that.

- The "missile" type of thingy that you saw, was most likely an F-5E Tiger II, it's used a lot for training purposes by the US military. So just saying that it doesn't have to be related.

- The MUFON people sound also "normal". They are some nutcases who believe every conspiracy theory in the world, and are just dying to see a UFO. They try to take a scientific approach to these ufo-sightings, without possibly really knowing why/what to do. So they dig up every little detail they can think of, file it somewhere, and let it be. So I'm sure they are annoying, even scary, possibly invading your privacy for no reason. So don't worry.

- These strange lights and orbs that you saw, there can be a dozen possible explenations to them. About the green orb, I'm guessing it is related to the military activity in the area. The military uses green lasers a lot for different targeting purposes, and from a distance of 1-2 kilometers in somewhat darkness the beam could easily look like a 5-foot orb on a tree. Who ever was using it, would then have moved the pointer (which creates the vision of moving orb), and then finally switched it off, causing the orb to disappear.

The green lasers are very dangerous, but from that distance they will merely cause a little bit of pain in your eyes, and a sensation of dizziness etc. If the laser is pointed directly to your eyes, you can also get a similar symptom as when you look at the sun, the image stays in your vision for some time.

These laser-caused eye problems can even last a very long time (up to days), then occasionally disappear and then re-appear later.

It could offer one explanation to the rectangular object that you saw hovering there for 20 minutes, and then you falling asleep afterwards. It could also explain the "radio" sound inside your head, and exactly in a way that it's not in your ears, but inside the head.

As said, the military lasers are very dangerous, and it could well be that they left a severe trauma inside your head, which up to years later can still make you see shadows, hear whispers, feel nausious, and other weird things.

It could also explain why your husband "shut down", possibly he was affected even worse, and didn't know what was going on. Maybe he thought you are crazy, and also made him crazy, or something.

Lasers, as well as strong radars in military use can be very bad for anyone in the area. Potentially they can even cook your eye-balls if you're very unlucky.

Your prank-phone calls could have just been that - prank phone calls.


I'm not saying that my theory is correct, but it would surely explain 95% of your experience. I've been hit by a green laserbeam from a distance of a few hundred meters, so I know. Luckily it was not military-strength.

So it could well be that you should blame the US military for ruining your life for being careless, and there is no conspiracy, UFO, evil spirit, or MIB.

I'd recommend you to look into this possibility, it could just give you a piece of mind, and relieve you from the agony.

In any case, all the best to you. God bless.
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the orb: this was no laser beam, it was a big round ball that had dimension and left a glowing shadow on the tree and the ground.

the jets may be unrelated, but we have camped at that lake on the same side every year for over a decade with the same group give or take a family or two. we never saw jets or orbs or weird lights or airplanes there before. it is remote, no electricity, not even for RVs. tent camping only.
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I got so into trying to figure it out, I joined MU___ and then took the test and became a MU___ Investigator.

Then, certain things and conversations took place that caused me to regret that.

They have no interest in really discovering anything. The reason they exist is to make a profit from "entertaining mostly blue collar people who are hungry for a little excitement in their lives."

When I heard that....it all made sense.

Our state director, who is a nut case, said his greatest goal was to make enough money from UFO's to retire from his day job.

This UFO commercial enterprise is just a shame. It's not just MU___. It's all of it.

I know what I saw and experienced, close up and personal.

But I am not going to create a commercial dynamo out of it because that gets one right back to the "I'm special" idea that I'd be re-living as if it were my JOB. A job based on fanthoms.
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Just to comment a few details about your story;

- People going to bed early is because of the fresh air outdoors. You sleep more, easily up to 12 hours per night (if 7-8 hours is normal). So nothing weird about that.

- The "missile" type of thingy that you saw, was most likely an F-5E Tiger II, it's used a lot for training purposes by the US military. So just saying that it doesn't have to be related.

- The MUFON people sound also "normal". They are some nutcases who believe every conspiracy theory in the world, and are just dying to see a UFO. They try to take a scientific approach to these ufo-sightings, without possibly really knowing why/what to do. So they dig up every little detail they can think of, file it somewhere, and let it be. So I'm sure they are annoying, even scary, possibly invading your privacy for no reason. So don't worry.

- These strange lights and orbs that you saw, there can be a dozen possible explenations to them. About the green orb, I'm guessing it is related to the military activity in the area. The military uses green lasers a lot for different targeting purposes, and from a distance of 1-2 kilometers in somewhat darkness the beam could easily look like a 5-foot orb on a tree. Who ever was using it, would then have moved the pointer (which creates the vision of moving orb), and then finally switched it off, causing the orb to disappear.

The green lasers are very dangerous, but from that distance they will merely cause a little bit of pain in your eyes, and a sensation of dizziness etc. If the laser is pointed directly to your eyes, you can also get a similar symptom as when you look at the sun, the image stays in your vision for some time.

These laser-caused eye problems can even last a very long time (up to days), then occasionally disappear and then re-appear later.

It could offer one explanation to the rectangular object that you saw hovering there for 20 minutes, and then you falling asleep afterwards. It could also explain the "radio" sound inside your head, and exactly in a way that it's not in your ears, but inside the head.

As said, the military lasers are very dangerous, and it could well be that they left a severe trauma inside your head, which up to years later can still make you see shadows, hear whispers, feel nausious, and other weird things.

It could also explain why your husband "shut down", possibly he was affected even worse, and didn't know what was going on. Maybe he thought you are crazy, and also made him crazy, or something.

Lasers, as well as strong radars in military use can be very bad for anyone in the area. Potentially they can even cook your eye-balls if you're very unlucky.

Your prank-phone calls could have just been that - prank phone calls.


I'm not saying that my theory is correct, but it would surely explain 95% of your experience. I've been hit by a green laserbeam from a distance of a few hundred meters, so I know. Luckily it was not military-strength.

So it could well be that you should blame the US military for ruining your life for being careless, and there is no conspiracy, UFO, evil spirit, or MIB.

I'd recommend you to look into this possibility, it could just give you a piece of mind, and relieve you from the agony.

In any case, all the best to you. God bless.


the orb: this was no laser beam, it was a big round ball that had dimension and left a glowing shadow on the tree and the ground.

the jets may be unrelated, but we have camped at that lake on the same side every year for over a decade with the same group give or take a family or two. we never saw jets or orbs or weird lights or airplanes there before. it is remote, no electricity, not even for RVs. tent camping only.
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the prank calls were weird, no heavy breathers or jokesters. the phone would ring, and when i answered there was an electronic voice on the other end looping a high speed stream of profanities without interruption in a monotone. sometimes the phone would ring and it would be dead when i answered. it was menacing and harassing. it only lasted a month or so that i remember.
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QUOTE this was an interesting aspect that we didn't realize until after the MUFON investigation. we were all taken into different rooms and asked like almost 200 questions each. we discussed the investigation at the dinner table afterward and the thing different about our answers was two things, what we saw on the screen (the men saw it on two nights and they saw something different between them the first night as well) and that my husband saw a craft that neither Rob or I saw that he described as two disks turning in opposite directions. (Like Ezekiel's wheel in a way) My exhusband would not know anything about Ezekiel's wheel, trust me. QUOTE

I didn't see this before I posted my last post. Weird. Because at the time I saw this I didn't know about Ezekiel's vision of the wheel within a wheel either.
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hi salt and light

they are territorial and can only be in territories that God is not standing in.

can you explain that more please



When Satan was cast out of heaven he was allowed to be in certain places. He and his cohorts are still allowed to be in those places and can remain there until his final judgment.
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i just thought of something

if we assume you have experienced close encounter with plasma orbs salt and light

what do we know?

we know

Estimated to be 99.999% of the visible universe, cosmic plasma may be considered to be the first state of matter

we know from uk government close encounter with plasma orbs effects human personality

we know

The most current estimates guess that there are 100 to 200 billion galaxies in the Universe, each of which has hundreds of billions of stars. A recent German supercomputer simulation put that number even higher: 500 billion. In other words, there could be a galaxy out there for every star in the Milky Way

i can not imagine satan being allowed to roam 99.999% of that much territory

i imagine plasma is god`s territory
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Just to comment a few details about your story;

- People going to bed early is because of the fresh air outdoors. You sleep more, easily up to 12 hours per night (if 7-8 hours is normal). So nothing weird about that.

- The "missile" type of thingy that you saw, was most likely an F-5E Tiger II, it's used a lot for training purposes by the US military. So just saying that it doesn't have to be related.

- The MUFON people sound also "normal". They are some nutcases who believe every conspiracy theory in the world, and are just dying to see a UFO. They try to take a scientific approach to these ufo-sightings, without possibly really knowing why/what to do. So they dig up every little detail they can think of, file it somewhere, and let it be. So I'm sure they are annoying, even scary, possibly invading your privacy for no reason. So don't worry.

- These strange lights and orbs that you saw, there can be a dozen possible explenations to them. About the green orb, I'm guessing it is related to the military activity in the area. The military uses green lasers a lot for different targeting purposes, and from a distance of 1-2 kilometers in somewhat darkness the beam could easily look like a 5-foot orb on a tree. Who ever was using it, would then have moved the pointer (which creates the vision of moving orb), and then finally switched it off, causing the orb to disappear.

The green lasers are very dangerous, but from that distance they will merely cause a little bit of pain in your eyes, and a sensation of dizziness etc. If the laser is pointed directly to your eyes, you can also get a similar symptom as when you look at the sun, the image stays in your vision for some time.

These laser-caused eye problems can even last a very long time (up to days), then occasionally disappear and then re-appear later.

It could offer one explanation to the rectangular object that you saw hovering there for 20 minutes, and then you falling asleep afterwards. It could also explain the "radio" sound inside your head, and exactly in a way that it's not in your ears, but inside the head.

As said, the military lasers are very dangerous, and it could well be that they left a severe trauma inside your head, which up to years later can still make you see shadows, hear whispers, feel nausious, and other weird things.

It could also explain why your husband "shut down", possibly he was affected even worse, and didn't know what was going on. Maybe he thought you are crazy, and also made him crazy, or something.

Lasers, as well as strong radars in military use can be very bad for anyone in the area. Potentially they can even cook your eye-balls if you're very unlucky.

Your prank-phone calls could have just been that - prank phone calls.


I'm not saying that my theory is correct, but it would surely explain 95% of your experience. I've been hit by a green laserbeam from a distance of a few hundred meters, so I know. Luckily it was not military-strength.

So it could well be that you should blame the US military for ruining your life for being careless, and there is no conspiracy, UFO, evil spirit, or MIB.

I'd recommend you to look into this possibility, it could just give you a piece of mind, and relieve you from the agony.

In any case, all the best to you. God bless.
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Thank you for this post. I didn't know about green lasers. So the dreams are from trauma from a laser? Thank you.
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Salt and Light you said,
Do you have thoughts about the apocryphal book of Adam and Eve book 1 & 2? I just got finished reading them with Secrets of Enoch. Is there anything there that relates to what you are trying to show me?

I am wondering what are your thoughts, as I do not know you' and may comment on something that is not of importance to you, as of now.
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the parts i found interesting about the book of adam and eve had to do with the nature of "the garden" and the nature of their bodies before and after being expelled. i have done some study on this and there are some compelling points. adam and eve's bodies were angelic-like before leaving the garden and then afterward painfully developed physical bodies which is described in detail within the book. they did not "eat" like we understand eating food. their countenance and eyes were different and saw things in a different way that we do with human eyes. and even more compelling was the deceptive tactics used by Satayeen. The tactics were deceptive in the extreme and continued every single day since the moment they entered the garden and explains why. So deceptive and cunning that it required divine intervention to show adam and eve what was going on.

i will go get the book and quote some passages of interest.
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Salt and Light (OP) Thanks for your post. After having my third "experience" a few years back, I started talking to some of my extended family about it in a round about way. Come to find out ALL of my family and extended family (cousins, uncles, etc.) have had these type of contacts..some more intense than others. Some won't really talk about it but admit something happened to them or they saw something.

I have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, our family is being "watched". The family of origin grew up in the Valley of Lights in Colorado when they moved from OK during the depression. Also, everyone displays all the abilities on the list you wrote up. ESP, etc. The kinetic energy thing is the most annoying. I haven't tried to wear a watch in years.

Thanks for sharing. I know how hard that was.


i found out about my father's experiences as a child during the time he came to the house to help me with harrassing MUFON guy. He told me that he felt "scanned" by a floating object that looked like a chandelier (? ok dad...) with colored lights on it that slowly passed over his body from head to toe while he was lying in bed. He was around 12 years old. he describes it as noiseless and he believes he was wide awake when it happened.

it is hard! really hard! people do not realize how troubling it is and how hard it is to talk about it without sounding like a complete whack job. i am working on my psychology degree and i still can't find a comfortable way to come terms with all that has happened.
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