First off, I have read all of Whitley’s books, Communion etc., The Threat, all of Dolores Cannon’s Convoluted Universe Series and her Custodians and Keepers of the Garden, Jim Sparks The keepers, The Watchers series, Budd Hopkins books, Stanley Friedman’s work, on and on. Most importantly, I have read John Mack’s works. Most of all, I have
thought about this a lot…about my own experiences and what they are, what they mean.
I have contact with beings, first the Grey, now the Mantis type. Mantis are very motherly, nurturing, loving…very feminine. Greys are cold and analytical. In my opinion, this doesn’t make them evil, just makes them different. If you try to think of either thinking in human ways, then you will be way off base, right from the start. They do not ‘think’ like humans. Humans create fantasies/drama into our lives. We live life as if those ‘fantasies’ are reality. This is extremely difficult to understand, because we LIVE IN THE HUMAN CONDITION. How the hell can we envision thought patterns outside the human condition? That is without lies/deceit/ego. We put these things into everything we think. Imagine other intelligences not living that way…we know the behaviors we partake in as a human species, cannot be in harmony with the universe, with god…
OK, this is important to understand...and this is why pusing for the new paradigm is so important...you see, we can't have any 'wrong' theories about how the universe truly works...
contact of physical non human life not a function of officialy endorced structure of universe......time over distance does not permit......the structure of our universe forced to alter to permit contact.......no traditional description of god functions within the structure of our universe permitting contact...
1. contact of physical non human life not a function of officialy endorced structure of universe......time over distance does not permit
That must change. It is possible, but common belief is that it is not possible...that has to change
2. the structure of our universe forced to alter to permit contact
This must change also...it is better to NOT be forced...the way scientists and others think of the universe as this present time (though some are recognizing the fallacies of certain theories) does not permit contact en masse...it must be a smooth process or problems with Them viewing the universe different than the way we (falsely) view the universe, makes the possibilities of instability between the contact that much more likely...
3. no traditional description of god functions within the structure of our universe permitting contact...
Put simply, our religions and beliefs of what god is in those major religions, has no structure in place for the event of contact with a higher intelligence...
These are a few of the items that aether has called - the politics of disclosure - aether
My response to his view was this (this is extremely important in understanding the difficulty of actual world-wide contact with ETs and other intelligent entities):
That is amazing. Understandings of the fundamental aspects of the universe are a requirement for contact, and not in an elitist manner, but of a common understanding in the majority of societies.
Without this, too many discrepancies for populations to absorb correctly. Too many falsities. The contact would be unsustainable. There would be an immense imbalance, and the greater the imbalance, even in this scenario, the greater discharge is required to achieve balance. The contact would be destructive. The paradigm must advance out of its present state of fallacies or the risk of discharge is too great. Those societal discharges created from a false understanding of the way the universe works would guarantee instability in any efforts of true contact or disclosure...of any advanced intelligence...including that of God. - SickScent
Quoting: SickscentSometimes this is so hard to accomplish without writing an entire book…
I don't know what I would do if the experiences ever just stopped...it is very hard to go a couple weeks without them...I at least have lucid dream/astral travel/obe experiences a couple times a week to hold me over for the 'bigger' experiences that come my way...
One of the hardest things to do is to get rid of all the CRAP you read and learn about. Especially when dealing with the ET existence...the only way to properly understand it is to experience it without the fear...I wrote something about that...I'll have to find it and post it in this thread.
All the horror stories you hear about ETs are fabricated, either by the person confusing the experience, or the assholes that make stories up for disinformation or for shits and giggles...
For most, there is an enormous set of baggage that must be sorted through in order to not distort experiences...that is the process we are going through while we make the transition to a new paradigm. The misunderstandings are going to be a doozy because of our lack in trusting certain sources of information...it will get easier as we go further...
Quoting: SickscentFear is the worst of enemies while in the process of evolution.
… I cannot help wondering what it might take to bring about the shift in consciousness, the change of paradigm that is implicit in what the abductees have undergone. It would appear that what is required is a kind of cultural ego death, more profoundly shattering… than the Copernican revolution which demonstrated that the earth, and therefore humankind, did not reside at the center of the cosmos.
- John E. Mack, M.D , “Abduction”, 1994 pg 420
Don't try to put your ego away. Don't try to put it down. It is a natural process. In natural processes, the harder you try to push something away, the harder it is to push away. You have to recognize it and let the emotion that it brings go through you without dwelling on it. This is all simplicity. Wisdom is recognizing the thought energy (because you have experienced it before) and not acting upon it. It is like in meditation when a thought comes to you but you do not dwell on it. It passes through you and upon coming out of meditation you do not even remember what those thoughts were. This is part of the process of awakening. It is awareness of our eternal selves no matter the form. Spiritual growth is the ability to transcend dualism. It is not the ability to push it away.
- Chad Adams
Concerning Egocentric Behaviors in Altered States
Quoting: SickscentMantis are probably the most spiritual in nature...there has been no predatory aspect AT ALL in any of my experiences with her (them). None, zilch, zip, nada...beautiful as much as strange...
Quoting: Sickscentre mantis having final say let me explain...they are the best equipped to deal with human emotion...all human emotional translating is incoherent...if you had never met humans before but were yourself at a level of awareness within our universe where you had the ability to come and observe them...the effect of human radiated emotion would begin where human imagination of hell ends.......it is indescribable shocking to a non human because each and every emotion carries the right shapes/pulses for it to exist but because there has never been within the imagination of humans the correct awareness of the cause and effects of all things..all of their emotions are contaminated with their fantasy....which to an intelligence of non human origin type we are discussing...is worse than hell because they can never fathom a creature that naturaly exists and radiates the right shapes yet the information contained within those shapes is filled with horror.........they know why we exist but they can never fathom our actions because they do not relate to our fantasies......that was the problem we are here to resolve......
-aether
Quoting: aetherOur emotions are incoherent to other species because of the fantasies we place inside the human condition...an example of this is fear...that emotion alone causes many humans to act in ways that they otherwise never would, because they are 'fantasizing' and imagining things that really are not in the experience, only in their minds...
Makes us Unpredictable...and with that unpredictability comes caution in dealing with us...extreme caution...all of our emotions are contaminated with these fantasies that are only in our minds, but we react to them as if they are real...a jealous husband...fantasies that we watch on TV and react to them as if they are a part of daily life...love we might feel for someone, but as only a reaction to past experiences (infatuation)...
If you are not submerged in the human condition, it would be very difficult interacting properly with us, don't you think...They do not fathom our reactions, because they are not part of the human condition...conditions that we relate to through fantasy...
Quoting: Sickscentwithin human fantasies are many realities...this has the effect of frequently attracting an intelligence that is responding to that or those realities...without exception at some point...the human moves into it`s fantasy which the reality is part of within their mind...this has devastating effects upon the interacting party whom can never know what or why the human does or is doing what it is because fantasy does not exist within it`s own imagination.....reality of infinite real potential is all that exists within their minds ....which in practise makes human fantasy...whatever is was or is.....insignificant within positive emotions as well as being non existent in practice...
-aether
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